skank
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Jun 27, 2017 1:44pm
Back to topic. Will ML's reserves play Massillons 7th grade the following day?
skank
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Jun 27, 2017 1:53pm
Yeah they're being pretty tough on you guys. Lol.chiefy jones;1860365 wrote:I think we've made the big time fellas, they're talking about us over on the politics forum. Now....They're not saying very nice things but hey....They're talking about us.
One of the guys who is being critical of us, spent a lot of time on this very forum arguing and calling names simply because we didn't agree with him.
Another is a mod....Lol, who occasionally comes over here and starts crap and another is a guy who I'm not familiar with but admits that he follows people on Twitter....Lol....Who follows others on Twitter?
Where has isadork been? I kinda miss the little spelling champion. Lol.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 27, 2017 3:50pm
I think his English teacher from HS saw some of isadork posts, grabbed him by the ear and led him to a remedial reading/writing/English class.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 27, 2017 3:51pm
Oh, I know they're being pretty tough on us, it's what we OC legends do....We bust each others balls for fun.
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jmog
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Jun 27, 2017 4:52pm
According to OHSAA website, 1972 Warren Western Reserve won 1972 state title in AAA. I can't find Massillon anywhere except for the 3 times they made it to the finals and lost ('80, '82, '05)Al Bundy;1859889 wrote:1972. We are planning a big celebration for the 45th anniversary.
So, the same question applies, when was the last time Massillon won a state title on the field?
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Al Bundy
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Jun 27, 2017 5:16pm
Here is our 1972 championship, right from the OHSAA website http://ohsaa.org/Portals/0/Sports/Records/FBAllTimeAPPollChampions.pdfjmog;1860492 wrote:According to OHSAA website, 1972 Warren Western Reserve won 1972 state title in AAA. I can't find Massillon anywhere except for the 3 times they made it to the finals and lost ('80, '82, '05)
So, the same question applies, when was the last time Massillon won a state title on the field?
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chiefy jones
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Jun 27, 2017 7:12pm
You'll have to excuse Weird Al, he's a little touched.
Our last Championship was in 1970.
Btw, how hard is it to do research? I hate to break it to you jmog....Football did not start in 1972.
Our last Championship was in 1970.
Btw, how hard is it to do research? I hate to break it to you jmog....Football did not start in 1972.
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Al Bundy
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Jun 27, 2017 7:42pm
Why don't you celebrate the 1972 title? We were AP champs in both 1970 and 1972. They either both count or neither counts.chiefy jones;1860508 wrote:You'll have to excuse Weird Al, he's a little touched.
Our last Championship was in 1970.
Btw, how hard is it to do research? I hate to break it to you jmog....Football did not start in 1972.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 27, 2017 10:00pm
Well....Because starting in 72 they decided to use a different method for determining champions.
Sometimes I think you just play stupid. I mean....Don't get me wrong, you're really good at it.
Sometimes I think you just play stupid. I mean....Don't get me wrong, you're really good at it.
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Al Bundy
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Jun 28, 2017 12:48am
So you are saying AP poll championships don't count?chiefy jones;1860535 wrote:Well....Because starting in 72 they decided to use a different method for determining champions.
Sometimes I think you just play stupid. I mean....Don't get me wrong, you're really good at it.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 28, 2017 5:49am
Your reading skills are similar to isadorks writing skills.Al Bundy;1860545 wrote:So you are saying AP poll championships don't count?
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jmog
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Jun 28, 2017 8:15am
chiefy jones;1860508 wrote:You'll have to excuse Weird Al, he's a little touched.
Our last Championship was in 1970.
Btw, how hard is it to do research? I hate to break it to you jmog....Football did not start in 1972.
No, football did not start in 1972, however, as soon as the championships were won on the field magically Massillon didn't win any. Makes most people outside of the Massillon kool aid drinkers think that most of their "championships" before 72 were about as realistically accurate as those that deny the Holocaust.
Why is it that the great Massillon all the sudden hasn't won a state title in 40+ years? Because a simple vote doesn't hand out the trophy anymore.
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Al Bundy
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Jun 28, 2017 8:49am
Either AP titles count or they don't. You seem to be one of those people who want to reinvent football in 1972.chiefy jones;1860549 wrote:Your reading skills are similar to isadorks writing skills.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 28, 2017 11:23am
They counted before 72 they stopped counting in 72. Pretty simple really.
Over/under on how many more times I'll have to explain this to Weird Al is 7.
I'm betting over.
Over/under on how many more times I'll have to explain this to Weird Al is 7.
I'm betting over.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 28, 2017 11:26am
You've managed to reach different levels of ignorance with this post. I'll deal with it later.jmog;1860555 wrote:No, football did not start in 1972, however, as soon as the championships were won on the field magically Massillon didn't win any. Makes most people outside of the Massillon kool aid drinkers think that most of their "championships" before 72 were about as realistically accurate as those that deny the Holocaust.
Why is it that the great Massillon all the sudden hasn't won a state title in 40+ years? Because a simple vote doesn't hand out the trophy anymore.
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Al Bundy
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Jun 28, 2017 2:18pm
It's pretty simple to see that you are a flip-flopper on issues. Jmog and I disagree on our positions, but at least we are consistent. You are the John Kerry of hs football, Mr. Flipflopperchiefy jones;1860588 wrote:They counted before 72 they stopped counting in 72. Pretty simple really.
Over/under on how many more times I'll have to explain this to Weird Al is 7.
I'm betting over.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 28, 2017 3:53pm
As I said....Pretty simple.
Your confusion on the issue is par for the course.
Your confusion on the issue is par for the course.
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Al Bundy
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Jun 28, 2017 3:56pm
I'm not confused at all. You have flip flopped on the issue. No wonder that people on the other Massillon site that we both visit are getting tired of your act and tell you to quit making excuses.chiefy jones;1860647 wrote:As I said....Pretty simple.
Your confusion on the issue is par for the course.
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jmog
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Jun 28, 2017 4:28pm
Most people would consider Massillon's paper titles legitimate if they even continued that type of run a couple years into the playoff era. If they had won 1 or 2 championships in the early/mid 70s when the playoffs began then non-Massillon fans would look at their 20 whatever AP titles as legitimate.
The problem people have, in general, is the fact that the year the title was won on the field, Massillon disappeared from the state title contention talk...for 40+ years.
The problem people have, in general, is the fact that the year the title was won on the field, Massillon disappeared from the state title contention talk...for 40+ years.
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Al Bundy
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Jun 28, 2017 4:44pm
So our 1970 title doesn't count because we didn't win the tournament in 1973? Do other sports work that way or just high school football?jmog;1860650 wrote:Most people would consider Massillon's paper titles legitimate if they even continued that type of run a couple years into the playoff era. If they had won 1 or 2 championships in the early/mid 70s when the playoffs began then non-Massillon fans would look at their 20 whatever AP titles as legitimate.
The problem people have, in general, is the fact that the year the title was won on the field, Massillon disappeared from the state title contention talk...for 40+ years.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 28, 2017 7:38pm
Way to work an atrocity like the Holocaust into a HS football conversation. You're almost as classy as isadork.jmog;1860555 wrote:No, football did not start in 1972, however, as soon as the championships were won on the field magically Massillon didn't win any. Makes most people outside of the Massillon kool aid drinkers think that most of their "championships" before 72 were about as realistically accurate as those that deny the Holocaust.
Why is it that the great Massillon all the sudden hasn't won a state title in 40+ years? Because a simple vote doesn't hand out the trophy anymore.
Have you ever done any research on the past Tiger teams? Do you know how Massillon was made up in the 40s, 50's, 60's and 70's compared to today? I think before all you geniuses open your mouths and look ignorant you should do a little research.
Let me guess, you're not interested in doing any research but you'll still open your mouth.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 28, 2017 7:40pm
Al Bundy;1860648 wrote:I'm not confused at all.
Denial. You're the most predictable guy I know.
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chiefy jones
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Jun 28, 2017 7:42pm
This is gonna hurt a little but.... ....(clears throat).... ....This post actually makes sense.Al Bundy;1860652 wrote:So our 1970 title doesn't count because we didn't win the tournament in 1973? Do other sports work that way or just high school football?
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Al Bundy
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Jun 28, 2017 7:53pm
The way we make up our team has changed over the decades. In the early days, we found the best players out there and hooked their parents up with great paying jobs in the mills and factories. Today, we found it is easier to just give them great paying jobs within the school district.chiefy jones;1860668 wrote: Do you know how Massillon was made up in the 40s, 50's, 60's and 70's compared to today?
skank
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Jun 28, 2017 7:56pm
Al Bundy;1860636 wrote: Jmog and I
This is pretty much all anyone needs to read.