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Apr 12, 2017 8:54 PM
Whole team has. 0-9 last night. 0-8/9 tonight


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Apr 12, 2017 8:54pm
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Apr 12, 2017 8:54 PM
Crimson streak;1847441 wrote:EE has been hot garbage so far with RISP


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You spelled "this season" wrong. (I know I know..it's been 8 games.)
Apr 12, 2017 8:54pm
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Apr 12, 2017 8:57 PM
Not only has EE failed to get the runners home, he has looked terrible at the plate.
Apr 12, 2017 8:57pm
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Apr 12, 2017 9:00 PM
Con_Alma;1847428 wrote:Lazy? O.K.

*His stuff is nasty.
Yes, lazy. He has been very, dry good for over a year. That opinion seems to be stemming from when he was young and learning to pitch still, a few years ago.
Apr 12, 2017 9:00pm
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Apr 12, 2017 9:06 PM
Lazy. O.K. I thought I accepted that already. It was a lazy take....it's still my "take".

That opinion, my opinion was based on last fall and his first two starts. His stuff is nasty. It's almost so nasty it seems like he struggles to control it. I didn't say he hasn't been good. Hell, he's certainly been effective. I'm just a guy lazily watching and commenting is all.
Apr 12, 2017 9:06pm
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Apr 12, 2017 9:08 PM
Way to make Robertson look like Mariano...fugly.
Apr 12, 2017 9:08pm
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Apr 12, 2017 9:09 PM
Right down the middle for strike three.
Apr 12, 2017 9:09pm
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Apr 12, 2017 9:11 PM
Con_Alma;1847450 wrote:Lazy. O.K. I thought I accepted that already. It was a lazy take....it's still my "take".

That opinion, my opinion was based on last fall and his first two starts. His stuff is nasty. It's almost so nasty it seems like he struggles to control it. I didn't say he hasn't been good. Hell, he's certainly been effective. I'm just a guy lazily watching and commenting is all.
My point was that he got hurt the start before last years ASG. He wasn't healthy at all the second half of the season. To judge his control in that timeframe makes no sense.
Apr 12, 2017 9:11pm
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Apr 12, 2017 9:16 PM
Holy shit defending World Series contenders looks like shit since the first series. 0 offense


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Apr 12, 2017 9:20 PM
Laley23;1847454 wrote:My point was that he got hurt the start before last years ASG. He wasn't healthy at all the second half of the season. To judge his control in that timeframe makes no sense.

I don't know that I was judging as much as I was observing what I was seeing. Not being healthy may lend to my observations being even more accurate. Wouldn't it? It would stand to reason that not being fully while still having such nasty stuff would be difficult to control.

For some reason you seem to be receiving my comments as being negative towards him when it was really focused on the sick movement he has in many of his pitches. Just watching what was going on is all. It is in fact a lazy "take"...nothing more. Can I possibly agree with you any more?
Apr 12, 2017 9:20pm
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Apr 12, 2017 9:23 PM
Meh. We are fine. Never been fast starters in April in recent years. Just don't get in a hole.

Anything .500 or better in April and we will be fine.

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Apr 12, 2017 9:48 PM
HitsRus;1847444 wrote:Not only has EE failed to get the runners home, he has looked terrible at the plate.
He's really pressing--seems to want to validate that big contract a little too much.
Apr 12, 2017 9:48pm
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Apr 12, 2017 11:20 PM
Only Lindor has shown up this year.
Apr 12, 2017 11:20pm
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Apr 13, 2017 6:49 AM
EE can be frustrating and his character being aloof doesn't help his cause when things aren't going well. He's been a slow starter several times. He also isn't playing in the division of band box stadiums.

When he warms up he is an RBI machine that can carry an offense..but he will irritate Indians fans at times this season.

He might just need the guy from Totonto in CF signaling pitches.
Apr 13, 2017 6:49am
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Apr 13, 2017 7:44 AM
vball10set;1847462 wrote:He's really pressing--seems to want to validate that big contract a little too much.
It certainly looks like it. He needs to be more patient at the plate and hit his pitch.., way too anxious.
Apr 13, 2017 7:44am
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Apr 13, 2017 7:46 AM
TBone14;1847457 wrote:Meh. We are fine. Never been fast starters in April in recent years. Just don't get in a hole.

Anything .500 or better in April and we will be fine.

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+1..... I agree.
Apr 13, 2017 7:46am
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Apr 13, 2017 8:13 AM
vball10set;1847462 wrote:He's really pressing--seems to want to validate that big contract a little too much.
If that is the main issue, I have trust in Tito resolving it.
Apr 13, 2017 8:13am
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Apr 13, 2017 8:28 AM
If we are being fair, and others were hitting, we would be saying:

"Man, look at this offense right now. Just wait till EE gets going!!"

So I am not worried at all. The pitching has been there, which is most important.
Apr 13, 2017 8:28am
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Apr 13, 2017 9:33 AM
Laley23;1847502 wrote:If we are being fair, and others were hitting, we would be saying:

"Man, look at this offense right now. Just wait till EE gets going!!"

So I am not worried at all. The pitching has been there, which is most important.
Exactly. Every year since Tito took over we have been slow starters. Just be 500 or around it through may and we will be perfectly fine. I'm not too worried, the offense is too talented to not hit.


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Apr 13, 2017 9:46 AM
Crimson streak;1847521 wrote:Exactly. Every year since Tito took over we have been slow starters. Just be 500 or around it through may and we will be perfectly fine. I'm not too worried, the offense is too talented to not hit.


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Yep. That stems from his approach. He doesn't want these guys to change anything. Even their routines and study habits or whatever. Sometimes, to a fault, as it can linger longer than needs to and doesn't get fixed. But he has always preached to stay the course long term and not change anything. Its why once he settles on a lineup, he wont shake it up at all (not counting injuries/days off or platoons), if a guy is slated as the 5 hitter, he is the 5 hitter until he sucks into June.
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Apr 13, 2017 3:37 PM
like_that;1847496 wrote:If that is the main issue, I have trust in Tito resolving it.

With the way he handled the team, especially the staff, during our run last year, I trust Tito implicitly...the guy's a baseball god as far as I'm concerned.
Apr 13, 2017 3:37pm
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Apr 13, 2017 6:11 PM
Chisenhall has been activated and is in the lineup tonight, Naquin has been sent down to Columbus.

Go Tribe.
Apr 13, 2017 6:11pm
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Apr 13, 2017 6:13 PM
Tomlin first pitch and its a HR. Sox 1-0.
Apr 13, 2017 6:13pm
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Apr 13, 2017 6:25 PM
I called for Tomlin regression in my pre season predictions and he wouldn't make the postseason roster. Last year was a wet dream. Hope I'm wrong but I'm betting against him every start until the market adjusts.

He was -175 tonight...which is a joke.

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Apr 13, 2017 6:28 PM
Fuck postseason roster...will Tomlin be in the rotation by the All Star break?

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