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Jul 30, 2017 8:33 PM
isadore;1864621 wrote:He was a hero then and a hero now, voting for the American people and resist the bullying of Donald, the loudmouth coward.
He is a warmongering pos.
Jul 30, 2017 8:33pm
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Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Jul 30, 2017 9:19 PM
superman;1864638 wrote:He is a warmongering pos.
Why do you have such hate? A guy with a different opinion than yours made a vote. So what?
Jul 30, 2017 9:19pm
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Jul 30, 2017 9:25 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864642 wrote:Why do you have such hate? A guy with a different opinion than yours made a vote. So what?
It's actually refreshing to see a few people in the Senate finally NOT blindly follow the party. Otherwise, why do we even have primaries and vote for individuals? Just check Democrat or Republican? I want to vote for an individual with solutions, not a broken party agenda.
Jul 30, 2017 9:25pm
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Jul 30, 2017 9:30 PM
gut;1864644 wrote:It's actually refreshing to see a few people in the Senate finally NOT blindly follow the party. Otherwise, why do we even have primaries and vote for individuals? Just check Democrat or Republican? I want to vote for an individual with solutions, not a broken party agenda.
I agree. The anger may be because these votes are making Trump look like a fool, but that's okay. This idea that you have to vote with the party is part of the reason our government is so poorly regarded by a big part of the electorate.
Jul 30, 2017 9:30pm
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Jul 30, 2017 9:40 PM
superman;1864638 wrote:He is a warmongering pos.
I agree. If there's one thing you can count on McCain to do, it's be BIG FUCKING MILITARY ALL DAY --- essentially the right-wing version of welfare leeches as far as financial drain goes.
gut;1864644 wrote:It's actually refreshing to see a few people in the Senate finally NOT blindly follow the party. Otherwise, why do we even have primaries and vote for individuals? Just check Democrat or Republican? I want to vote for an individual with solutions, not a broken party agenda.
I also agree. There's no point in even having a non-dictator government if everyone goes strict party line all the time. Just leads to a couple years of Rs in control and everyone getting sick of their shit and then a couple years of Ds in control and everyone getting sick of their shit. Wash, rinse, repeat. Which essentially is what we have now, so it's cool just to see people cross the party line borders occasionally. Almost gives you hope -- at least if you've drank enough, lol.
Jul 30, 2017 9:40pm
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Jul 30, 2017 9:41 PM
McCain and his actions are basically a way for the establishment republicans trying to get their party back. It has nothing to do with health care
Jul 30, 2017 9:41pm
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Jul 30, 2017 9:44 PM
Spock;1864649 wrote:McCain and his actions are basically a way for the establishment republicans trying to get their party back. It has nothing to do with health care
Apparenty 95 votes to repeal or whatever didn't have much to do with healthcare, either.
Jul 30, 2017 9:44pm
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Jul 30, 2017 10:00 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864642 wrote:Why do you have such hate? A guy with a different opinion than yours made a vote. So what?
I hate anyone who sends young men off to die. It has nothing to do with the healthcare vote.
Jul 30, 2017 10:00pm
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Jul 31, 2017 10:34 AM
superman;1864653 wrote:I hate anyone who sends young men off to die. It has nothing to do with the healthcare vote.
Are you saying you hate every president we've had?
Jul 31, 2017 10:34am
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Jul 31, 2017 11:46 AM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864694 wrote:Are you saying you hate every president we've had?
You need to read a history book.
Jul 31, 2017 11:46am
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Jul 31, 2017 12:02 PM
superman;1864709 wrote:You need to read a history book.
Got any recommendations?
Jul 31, 2017 12:02pm
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Jul 31, 2017 12:05 PM
superman;1864638 wrote:He is a warmongering pos.
He put his life on the line for the country as did his grandfather, father and sons, you and trump are the pos.
Jul 31, 2017 12:05pm
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Jul 31, 2017 12:15 PM
superman;1864653 wrote:I hate anyone who sends young men off to die. It has nothing to do with the healthcare vote.
McCain has the courage of his convictions, being willing to put his life and his sons lives on the line for the nation, some a Trump will never do.
Jul 31, 2017 12:15pm
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Jul 31, 2017 1:36 PM
Actually McCain just fucked America, all because he wanted revenge against Trump.

But that is what jackass politicians in DC do.




Drain the swamp!
Jul 31, 2017 1:36pm
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Jul 31, 2017 2:28 PM
QuakerOats;1864722 wrote:Actually McCain just fucked America, all because he wanted revenge against Trump.

But that is what jackass politicians in DC do.



Drain the swamp!
this is 100% true. Just last year he was screaming for repeal just like that dumbass women in alaska.

We are just screwed. Insurance is going to skyrocket now.
Jul 31, 2017 2:28pm
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Jul 31, 2017 2:45 PM
I guess Trump will just have to find a way to eliminate the insurance company 'bailouts', and force the issue. This ain't over.
Jul 31, 2017 2:45pm
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Jul 31, 2017 3:25 PM
I'm not sure how Trump can force Congress to have the same insurance as everyone else, but I think that's a wonderful idea.

I have no idea what congressional health plans look like but in a previous life I was involved with executive health plans that were super secret and covered things like swimming pools. I wonder if Congress has anything like that.
Jul 31, 2017 3:25pm
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Jul 31, 2017 4:13 PM
QuakerOats;1864722 wrote:Actually McCain just fucked America, all because he wanted revenge against Trump.

But that is what jackass politicians in DC do.




Drain the swamp!
good bye Mr. Scaramucci wherever you are.

Jul 31, 2017 4:13pm
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Jul 31, 2017 9:59 PM
FatHobbit;1864742 wrote:I'm not sure how Trump can force Congress to have the same insurance as everyone else, but I think that's a wonderful idea.

I have no idea what congressional health plans look like but in a previous life I was involved with executive health plans that were super secret and covered things like swimming pools. I wonder if Congress has anything like that.
Congressional carve out a for insurance can't be eliminated by trump. The Congress votes for a 73% benefit coverage for them after the law was passed so an executive order can eliminate that and their secret plans.
Jul 31, 2017 9:59pm
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Jul 31, 2017 11:02 PM
QuakerOats;1864737 wrote:I guess Trump will just have to find a way to eliminate the insurance company 'bailouts', and force the issue. This ain't over.
I thought the "bailout" provisions sunset at the end of 2015 (maybe 2014), which is why companies started dropping out of the exchanges left and right.
Jul 31, 2017 11:02pm
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Aug 1, 2017 10:22 AM
Which might be why the continuing bailouts are illegal ................but that never stopped the obama admin before
Aug 1, 2017 10:22am
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Aug 1, 2017 10:35 AM
QuakerOats;1864851 wrote:Which might be why the continuing bailouts are illegal ................but that never stopped the obama admin before
He isn't the president any longer. I remember when Obama's administration would blame Bush for stuff and Bush's supporters would get incensed about it. Stick to that standard.
Aug 1, 2017 10:35am
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Aug 1, 2017 1:07 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864853 wrote:He isn't the president any longer. I remember when Obama's administration would blame Bush for stuff and Bush's supporters would get incensed about it. Stick to that standard.
Obama did it for 8 years on everything. Trump doing it for 8 months on this 1 thing would be more than fair.
Aug 1, 2017 1:07pm
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Aug 1, 2017 1:18 PM
superman;1864865 wrote:Obama did it for 8 years on everything. Trump doing it for 8 months on this 1 thing would be more than fair.
However it's being practiced, it is weak. It's weak for any administration to keep pointing backwards. That goes for dem or rep.
Aug 1, 2017 1:18pm
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Aug 1, 2017 2:00 PM
gut;1864828 wrote:I thought the "bailout" provisions sunset at the end of 2015 (maybe 2014), which is why companies started dropping out of the exchanges left and right.
Wasn't it extended?
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864866 wrote:However it's being practiced, it is weak. It's weak for any administration to keep pointing backwards. That goes for dem or rep.
Nice to see you act righteous and fair now. : thumbup:
Aug 1, 2017 2:00pm