Wikileaks releases "Vault 7"

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Mar 7, 2017 11:21am
Confidential CIA docs released today from years 2013-2016. Another Snowden?

Not sure who/what zerohedge is but here is their take:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-07/wikileaks-hold-press-conference-vault-7-release-8am-eastern

...more fake news?
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Mar 7, 2017 11:57am
The Michael Hastings thing is very fucking scary.
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Mar 7, 2017 12:28pm
like_that;1840073 wrote:The Michael Hastings thing is very fucking scary.
Just read a bit on it, very.
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Mar 7, 2017 12:51pm
UMBRAGE is interesting.
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gut
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Mar 7, 2017 2:20pm
fish82;1840081 wrote:UMBRAGE is interesting.
Yes, wouldn't it be something if the hack on the DNC was done by the CIA to damage BOTH Clinton and Trump....

Just a fun conspiracy theory I came up with :)

But, seriously, if those allegations are true then it's no wonder Russia tried to interfere in our election.
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Mar 7, 2017 2:23pm
gut;1840099 wrote:Yes, wouldn't it be something if the hack on the DNC was done by the CIA to damage BOTH Clinton and Trump....

Just a fun conspiracy theory I came up with :)

But, seriously, if those allegations are true then it's no wonder Russia tried to interfere in our election.
Yeah, I am just waiting for trump's "i told you so tweet" claiming it was the CIA all along.
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gut
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Mar 7, 2017 2:26pm
like_that;1840101 wrote:Yeah, I am just waiting for trump's "i told you so tweet" claiming it was the CIA all along.
Oh, that's inevitable. He's going to really pile on, and then the media will be like "wait a minute, you HATE leaks and called Snowden a traitor that should be executed"
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Mar 7, 2017 3:02pm
Utah data center ---> not fake
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Mar 7, 2017 3:35pm
gut;1840099 wrote:Yes, wouldn't it be something if the hack on the DNC was done by the CIA to damage BOTH Clinton and Trump....

Just a fun conspiracy theory I came up with :)

But, seriously, if those allegations are true then it's no wonder Russia tried to interfere in our election.
I'm sure Trump will be tweeting something to that effect shortly lol.

My takeaway is what I said all along...that tech is not exclusive to the CIA. Any hacker worth his/her salt can make it look like someone else did it.
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Mar 7, 2017 4:20pm
If its true that the CIA is recording virtually every phone, text, email, et al, where did they get the authority to do that? If no authority has been given, what happens now that we know they are doing it?

These seem to be very strange times to be in these days...
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Mar 7, 2017 4:32pm
Apple;1840129 wrote:If its true that the CIA is recording virtually every phone, text, email, et al, where did they get the authority to do that? If no authority has been given, what happens now that we know they are doing it?

These seem to be very strange times to be in these days...
It doesn't really bother me. That's just the way it is.
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Mar 7, 2017 4:44pm
justincredible;1840131 wrote:It doesn't really bother me. That's just the way it is.
How can this (assumed) invasion of your privacy "not really bother" you? Do you not care the government is doing this? Doesn't this look like the government is breaking the law and violating your rights?
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Mar 7, 2017 4:49pm
Apple;1840135 wrote:How can this (assumed) invasion of your privacy "not really bother" you? Do you not care the government is doing this? Doesn't this look like the government is breaking the law and violating your rights?

I'm thinking he's being sarcastic due to some responses on the intrusive TSA checks thread.
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Mar 7, 2017 4:55pm
This is looking like it has the potential to be a sizeable shitstorm.
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Mar 7, 2017 5:00pm
justincredible;1840131 wrote:It doesn't really bother me. That's just the way it is.
Lol.

Yeah, going through TSA security lines is exactly the same as the government keeping track of our phones [emoji849]
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Mar 7, 2017 5:53pm
Heretic;1840136 wrote:I'm thinking he's being sarcastic due to some responses on the intrusive TSA checks thread.
didn't see the TSA thread yet... will check it out. ...not that I don't ever use sarcasm myself! :)
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Mar 7, 2017 6:55pm
SportsAndLady;1840138 wrote:Lol.

Yeah, going through TSA security lines is exactly the same as the government keeping track of our phones [emoji849]
I was mostly joking, but they are both examples of government overreach. Just different extremes.
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Mar 7, 2017 7:31pm
For what it's worth, Zuckerberg has been covering his webcam and mic on his computers for a long time.
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Mar 7, 2017 9:32pm
If anyone takes anything from this, nothing is safe. No products we bring into our home are safe. Nothing we do with a computer, internet connection, cell phone, etc...is safe.
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Mar 7, 2017 10:10pm
Commander of Awesome;1840150 wrote:For what it's worth, Zuckerberg has been covering his webcam and mic on his computers for a long time.
Yeah, but he's Zuckerberg. I doubt the feds give a shit about any of us.
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gut
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Mar 7, 2017 10:12pm
fish82;1840137 wrote:This is looking like it has the potential to be a sizeable shitstorm.
Funny thing is, I just realized this makes Trump's tweet about being tapped pretty much 100% correct. Now, completely different context or misleading to the point of being a lie, but it depends on what your definition of "is" is.
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Mar 7, 2017 10:22pm
gut;1840179 wrote:I doubt the feds give a shit about any of us.
Not yet.
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Mar 7, 2017 10:31pm
gut;1840179 wrote:Yeah, but he's Zuckerberg. I doubt the feds give a shit about any of us.
Prob not, but still found it interesting.
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Mar 8, 2017 6:28am
Why am I on this list!!!???



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Mar 8, 2017 7:58am
The feds don't care about any of us...until they have a reason to.

You better believe that if you start having a major influence or control of significant money, they are using this stuff.

Why do you think we don't hear former politicians, CEO's, lobbyists and the like outing each other or the exploits of people? The government can own and control anyone they really want and it's these subtle things that allow it.