Disgusted with Progressives

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like_that
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Aug 19, 2017 9:48am
Anyone see this story that has been developing the last couple days? Probably not, because the media will do anything to bury it since the left is our moral superior and Trump is the ultimate devil.

Summary: Some dumbass state senator in Missouri posted on Facebook that she hopes Trump gets assassinated. She refuses to apologize and won't resign even with her own party members telling her to resign.

I am sure liberals/leftists (and liberals/leftists in general) on this site roll their eyes when the right complains about media coverage, but your kidding yourself if you don't think this hits national cable news immediately if this were about Obama. Same with Kathy Griffin holding Trump's head. This is why I think the left is full of shit when they try to pretend they are morally superior (amongst other metrics that say otherwise). You can act like a piece of shit as long as it is directed at somebody/something that you perceive to be a piece of shit.

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/347192-missouri-governor-calls-for-mo-state-senator-resignation-over-trump
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Aug 19, 2017 10:05am
I saw it. She's a dumb ass. Not shocked at all by the lack of media coverage. We all know what would have happened if the shoe were on the other foot...


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Aug 19, 2017 10:30am
like_that;1867667 wrote:Anyone see this story that has been developing the last couple days? Probably not, because the media will do anything to bury it since the left is our moral superior and Trump is the ultimate devil.

Summary: Some dumbass state senator in Missouri posted on Facebook that she hopes Trump gets assassinated. She refuses to apologize and won't resign even with her own party members telling her to resign.

I am sure liberals/leftists (and liberals/leftists in general) on this site roll their eyes when the right complains about media coverage, but your kidding yourself if you don't think this hits national cable news immediately if this were about Obama. Same with Kathy Griffin holding Trump's head. This is why I think the left is full of shit when they try to pretend they are morally superior (amongst other metrics that say otherwise). You can act like a piece of shit as long as it is directed at somebody/something that you perceive to be a piece of shit.

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/347192-missouri-governor-calls-for-mo-state-senator-resignation-over-trump
Actually, this is the first time I've seen this. Unreal. I can't fathom...

We can disagree and even hate somebody in a political sense. Fine. But to publicly wish for their being killed? This woman is obviously out of her friggen mind.
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Aug 19, 2017 1:03pm
I guess I can ask this question here:

Boston Free speech rally today is actually being counter protested. ???????.....wTF, we are now protesting free speech rallies?
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friendfromlowry
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Aug 19, 2017 2:29pm
America in 2017: Show up for a free speech rally wearing a Trump hat, get assaulted by people holding anti-hate signs. God damn.
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Aug 19, 2017 2:50pm
lol protesting Christopher Columbus statues now, get outta here.


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Aug 19, 2017 2:52pm
Also, when someone from Antifa finally gets the shit kicked out of them, is the left going to say he deserved it or are they going to cry about assault?




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Aug 19, 2017 3:10pm
iclfan2;1867701 wrote:Also, when someone from Antifa finally gets the shit kicked out of them, is the left going to say he deserved it or are they going to cry about assault?
They will cry assault and it will get a nice 4-day run as their main talking point.
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Aug 19, 2017 4:08pm
Antifa now throwing urine and other projectiles at police. Also yelling fuck you piece of shit, fuck free speech, at a Trump supporter. When you allow a group to call anyone on the right a fascist and condone their actions, you've already lost. Would like see everyone stop acting like this group is worthy of praise (besides Isidore bc he is too stupid)


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Aug 19, 2017 4:22pm
iclfan2;1867707 wrote:Antifa now throwing urine and other projectiles at police. Also yelling fuck you piece of shit, fuck free speech, at a Trump supporter. When you allow a group to call anyone on the right a fascist and condone their actions, you've already lost. Would like see everyone stop acting like this group is worthy of praise (besides Isidore bc he is too stupid)


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They are making trump statements ring totally true. He is picking up major votes as these far left groups keep up their shit and the media lapping it up
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Aug 19, 2017 5:05pm
If everyone would just ignore these white supremacists and antipasto, they'd go away. All the attention we give them is really all they're looking for. And besides, they represent a tiny sliver of our population. So who friggin cares what they're saying at any given time. Ignore them.
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isadore
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Aug 19, 2017 5:14pm
QuakerOats;1867512 wrote:Blacks who were never slaves, fighting whites who were never Nazis, over a statue erected by democrats ...........and it's all Trump's fault.



Makes sense.
Now there is license for bigots. Why don't you attack Jews for fighting Nazis, after they were not in Auschwitz. Same as your attack on blacks. Then we get your rationalization for the neo-Nazis, there not real Nazis because they are not pushing Jews into the gas chamber. The neo-Nazis just want to and are just hoping for the chance. And they have you and Donald making excuses for them.
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gut
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Aug 19, 2017 5:56pm
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1867714 wrote:If everyone would just ignore these white supremacists and antipasto, they'd go away. All the attention we give them is really all they're looking for.
I imagine it makes playing dress-up a lot more fun when you get tv and newspaper picks. Easier to scrap-book.
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gut
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Aug 19, 2017 6:02pm
iclfan2;1867707 wrote:Antifa now throwing urine and other projectiles at police. Also yelling fuck you piece of shit, fuck free speech, at a Trump supporter. When you allow a group to call anyone on the right a fascist and condone their actions, you've already lost. Would like see everyone stop acting like this group is worthy of praise (besides Isidore bc he is too stupid)
I think I said it before, but all the violence and vandalism at these events have one thing in common: the alt-left or Antifa or whatever you want to call the left-wing radical faction that is being normalized, condoned and in some cases encouraged by the left wing.

And they will regret it. These people are not liberals or Democrats and the left would be wise to start distancing themselves. But it drives ratings, so I'm not sure if the media cares (but the Dem politicians SHOULD).
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gut
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Aug 19, 2017 6:04pm
friendfromlowry;1867697 wrote:America in 2017: Show up for a free speech rally wearing a Trump hat, get assaulted by people holding anti-hate signs. God damn.
That was really a bit of genius marketing - they got people to counter-protest a "free speech" rally! LOL
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gut
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Aug 19, 2017 6:11pm
CenterBHSFan;1867664 wrote:So, a Lincoln statue has had its face burned off, pretty much.
Was that supposed to be an alt-left attack? I assume it may have been alt-right retaliation. I guess you could go either way.

Maybe the left and right can get together and celebrate, in their own ways, the destruction of every statue and monument to Lincoln!
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Aug 19, 2017 11:43pm
QuakerOats;1867512 wrote:Blacks who were never slaves, fighting whites who were never Nazis, over a statue erected by democrats ...........and it's all Trump's fault.
Sounds like something a Brietbart writer would say. These guys in VA obviously aren't National Socialists circa Germany in 1930 which I assume is the reason you say they're not Nazis. But since they claim to believe in the philosophy of Nazism, that's exactly what they are.

By the way, you should quit being a patriot since you weren't here for the Revolution.
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Aug 20, 2017 2:13am
iclfan2;1867701 wrote:Also, when someone from Antifa finally gets the shit kicked out of them, is the left going to say he deserved it or are they going to cry about assault?
I mean ... unless it's in self-defense, it IS assault.
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Aug 20, 2017 9:11am
O-Trap;1867754 wrote:I mean ... unless it's in self-defense, it IS assault.
But they advocate assaulting "Nazi's"? That's my point. They are cool with violence until it's against them. That's why people should condemn violence no matter what. You can't pick and choose groups that "deserve" violence if you have just as shitty people on your own side.


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Aug 20, 2017 11:53am
iclfan2;1867762 wrote:But they advocate assaulting "Nazi's"? That's my point. They are cool with violence until it's against them. That's why people should condemn violence no matter what. You can't pick and choose groups that "deserve" violence if you have just as shitty people on your own side.


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this. THats why what Trump said really is true.
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Aug 20, 2017 7:21pm
gut;1867722 wrote:I think I said it before, but all the violence and vandalism at these events have one thing in common: the alt-left or Antifa or whatever you want to call the left-wing radical faction that is being normalized, condoned and in some cases encouraged by the left wing.

And they will regret it. These people are not liberals or Democrats and the left would be wise to start distancing themselves. But it drives ratings, so I'm not sure if the media cares (but the Dem politicians SHOULD).
The hilarious thing is that if these people would have decided to "make their difference" by, I don't know, voting, Trump would have no significance outside of his own Library of Congress-sized ego.
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gut
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Aug 20, 2017 7:52pm
Heretic;1867801 wrote:The hilarious thing is that if these people would have decided to "make their difference" by, I don't know, voting, Trump would have no significance outside of his own Library of Congress-sized ego.
Ehhh, you think Antifa and the like are really that numerous, much less tens of thousands in any of the states where that could have made a difference?

There are obviously many more haters/racists/etc than officially belong to any organization, but official membership in hate groups totals probably less than 50k nationally.

That is what is so disgusting about these groups. Nevermind the innocent people who get hurt and property destruction, just the emotions it evokes in millions of Americans is very sad. These idiots don't represent anyone or anything good. I'd be willing to be a significant percentage of them actually aren't even that passionate about their "beliefs", but rather get off on fighting, breaking shit, and/or offending people.

There needs to be zero tolerance when these people break the law. Was really glad to see Boston did not allow protestors to participate if they had any sort of weapons on them.
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gut
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Aug 20, 2017 7:55pm
O-Trap;1867754 wrote:I mean ... unless it's in self-defense, it IS assault.
I thought I saw somewhere where some Antifa member claimed it WAS self-defense against hatred and bigotry. Justifying violence, now, against words we don't like.

Put all of them on an island with no police and call it Darwin's Super Bowl.
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Aug 20, 2017 8:27pm
Great example of why it shouldn't be ok to punch somebody you believe is a nazi (unless this turns out to be a hoax).


https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/colorado-man-stabbed-neo-nazi-haircut-163146326.html
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Aug 20, 2017 9:44pm
like_that;1867807 wrote:Great example of why it shouldn't be ok to punch somebody you believe is a nazi (unless this turns out to be a hoax).

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/colorado-man-stabbed-neo-nazi-haircut-163146326.html
I actually just finished reading about that from another source. So, my guess is that it's true.

In similar news, the Whitehouse petition site has reached above and beyond the necessary names needed to bring attention to the idea of having Antifa lawfully recognized as a terrorist organization: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/formally-recognize-antifa-terrorist-organization-0

Also, Eric Clanton (the bicycle lock clubbing professor) has issued a formal statement: https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2017/08/16/18801580.php

I'm not sure if he ran this statement by his lawyers, but it has some fairly incriminating words within it if you pay attention.
First of all, nowhere in this page does he even come close to proclaiming his innocence lol!

Here he is referring to Antifa, BAMN and other anarchy/commie groups.
They are also criminalizing protesters who stood up to neo-Nazis last summer, hundreds of J20 and standing rock defendants.
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Re-reading it again makes me think that... nope, he never ran this by his lawyers.