Disgusted with Progressives

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CenterBHSFan
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Aug 15, 2017 1:45pm
I am seeing things much differently than others, I guess. Because I think if you're talking about longevity alone, then yes, Nazi's, KKK and other racists are worse.
Currently? BAMN and ANTIFA are worse.
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gut
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Aug 15, 2017 2:30pm
CenterBHSFan;1866791 wrote:I am seeing things much differently than others, I guess. Because I think if you're talking about longevity alone, then yes, Nazi's, KKK and other racists are worse.
Currently? BAMN and ANTIFA are worse.
Most of the white supremacy groups are on the decline, although the KKK has ticked back up (but still only counts 5000-8000 members).

The two fastest growing hate group categories? Anti-muslim and Black Separatist. Don't believe they count Antifa, and of course BLM is not a hate group but clearly contains many radical haters.

I'd like to see a comparison of membership numbers. I have a suspicion, because of the social "acceptance" of many of these left wing groups and their members, there is more racism and hatred openly hiding in plain sight on the left.

Not to say there isn't more racism on the right. But I think what has changed is some of these right-wing groups have recently become more violent and combative (and, no, I'm not talking about the KKK history...and KKK these days is basically a bunch of old men playing dress up)....because that is what these left groups have been doing.

Lost in all this talk about Trump calling people out by name, the media rarely calls out violence from the left. It's not BLM - who's intentions are good and pure - causing violence is some bad actors exploiting the opportunity. But if the media were calling it both ways, BLM is a "dog whistle" to these racist "bad actors". If BLM was a white group, what would the response be....well, I think we know because there are already a variety of versions of a White Lives Matter (though its membership is probably tiny in comparison)
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isadore
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Aug 15, 2017 6:22pm
gosh a ruddies, Donald Trump gives the KKK and Nazis moral equivalence with their victims. Of course they are his core supporters.
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Automatik
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Aug 15, 2017 6:25pm
His most reliant supporters, no way he'll alienate the fringe right.
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fish82
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Aug 15, 2017 6:59pm
50,000 (at most) out of 62 million votes are his “core supporters.”

Flirting with Full Retard here.
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Aug 15, 2017 7:02pm
Core is not the correct term. Most loyal for sure though, because fringe. I'm sure you understand that.
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fish82
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Aug 15, 2017 7:04pm
Automatik;1866835 wrote:Core is not the correct term. Most loyal for sure though, because fringe. I'm sure you understand that.
Of course.

They've been the “most loyal” supporters of every republican for 40 years...yet barely enough to turn a city council race in a medium sized city.

Interesting timing on the bed-wetting.
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Aug 15, 2017 7:07pm
I'd just like for ONE time for Donald to come out even-keeled and refrain from the divisive rhetoric. Apparently it's fucking impossible for him to do this.
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Aug 15, 2017 7:09pm
Automatik;1866837 wrote:I'd just like for ONE time for Donald to come out even-keeled and refrain from the divisive rhetoric. Apparently it's fucking impossible for him to do this.
I would like the same from the media and our two biggest parties, which we haven't seen for over 16+ years.

I am not sure why you are shocked, Donald is rattled by the media. It's not going to change.
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Aug 15, 2017 8:01pm
Automatik;1866837 wrote:I'd just like for ONE time for Donald to come out even-keeled and refrain from the divisive rhetoric. Apparently it's fucking impossible for him to do this.
"This session is about infrastructure. I won't be addressing any other topics today."

Not that hard, Mr. President.
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Aug 15, 2017 9:36pm
Automatik;1866837 wrote:I'd just like for ONE time for Donald to come out even-keeled and refrain from the divisive rhetoric. Apparently it's fucking impossible for him to do this.
Should he hold a beer summit?
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CenterBHSFan
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Aug 16, 2017 6:24am
Oh, ffs! This is getting way out of hand...
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Aug 16, 2017 7:28am
twitter has opened up a whole world of stupid out there.

That reporter was just about right. If professional left wing agitators werent sent in there with clubs to do dirty work this rally is likely a non story. THe charlottesville PD and state police did a horrible job keeping these groups apart. It almost looked purposeful on their part to let the clubs start flying.
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Aug 16, 2017 8:21am
Haha there are now reporters (the one I saw was from esquire) comparing Antifa to the freaking American WW2 soldiers. You literally can't make this shit up.

It is ok to believe that 1) Nazi's are idiots and bad and 2) Antifa are idiots and bad, all at the same time. You wanna say nazi's are more bad, sure go right ahead but it doesn't matter because both sides are despicable and not defensible.
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Aug 16, 2017 8:26am
iclfan2;1866896 wrote:Haha there are now reporters (the one I saw was from esquire) comparing Antifa to the freaking American WW2 soldiers. You literally can't make this shit up.

It is ok to believe that 1) Nazi's are idiots and bad and 2) Antifa are idiots and bad, all at the same time. You wanna say nazi's are more bad, sure go right ahead but it doesn't matter because both sides are despicable and not defensible.
I forget where I read it, it was either here or Reddit.

"The enemy of my enemy is a fucking asshole."
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Aug 16, 2017 8:36am
superman;1866897 wrote:I forget where I read it, it was either here or Reddit.

"The enemy of my enemy is a fucking asshole."
I laughed, but gotta also admit that I like this. Reps!

*Edit to add*
Well, I would rep if I could. Seems to be the old problem again.
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Aug 16, 2017 9:02am
Facebook is almost unbearable at the moment. From what I gather, I am essentially a Nazi because I have no interested in allying with violent communists.
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Aug 16, 2017 9:27am
justincredible;1866900 wrote:Facebook is almost unbearable at the moment. From what I gather, I am essentially a Nazi because I have no interested in allying with violent communists.
I couldn't tell you the last time that I logged into FB. Never really got into it and it looks like that's a good thing!
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friendfromlowry
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Aug 16, 2017 9:29am
justincredible;1866900 wrote:Facebook is almost unbearable at the moment. From what I gather, I am essentially a Nazi because I have no interested in allying with violent communists.
I feel ya. I think Kaepernick doesn't have a job in the NFL primarily because of issues with his talent (or lack of). But it's actually because he's black and subsequently I am a racist.
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Aug 16, 2017 9:36am
friendfromlowry;1866907 wrote:I feel ya. I think Kaepernick doesn't have a job in the NFL primarily because of issues with his talent (or lack of). But it's actually because he's black and subsequently I am a racist.
He's not a very good QB, and comes with serious baggage.

It's not at all shocking that he hasn't gotten a job. But, nope, it's cuz racism.
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Aug 16, 2017 9:39am
Don't want to threadjack further, but Jason Whitlock's spot a few weeks ago Cowherd was dead on regarding why he doesn't have a job. Team's don't feel he's fully invested in being a football player. Not a good look when you play the most important position on the field. Combined w/ the unwanted attention he'll bring and regarding play he's meh...it's not surprising. I still think he'll get picked up though....lots of garbage at the QB position these days.
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Aug 16, 2017 9:44am
justincredible;1866900 wrote:Facebook is almost unbearable at the moment. From what I gather, I am essentially a Nazi because I have no interested in allying with violent communists.


Saw that today on Facebook and almost threw my phone. So because I don't really care to get too involved in this situation, I'm privileged lol. wut
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Aug 16, 2017 9:44am
justincredible;1866900 wrote:Facebook is almost unbearable at the moment. From what I gather, I am essentially a Nazi because I have no interested in allying with violent communists.
You are also a racist. Because in an article out today from the co-founder of the women's march, even if you claim you are white and a non-racist, the fact that you benefit from privilege makes you a racist (per Time). Is this the new definition of racism?
"Then, we need to have conversations with other white people in our communities about acknowledging their privilege and the ways that they are racist. We need to people to stop saying that they’re not racist when they still unfairly benefit based on their race."
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Aug 16, 2017 9:45am
Ya'll need to get libruhhh with the unfollow/unfriend features.