Pizzagate

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Feb 17, 2017 1:51pm
QuakerOats;1837777 wrote:Not sure, what is Barney Frank doing these days?
No idea. Possibly having consensual sex with another man from time to time. Why?
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Feb 17, 2017 2:38pm
O-Trap;1837780 wrote:No idea. Possibly having consensual sex with another man from time to time. Why?
Back in the 80's Barney hired a male prostitute to "run errands" for him. He ended up running a prostitution ring out of Barney's Washington apartment.
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Feb 17, 2017 2:57pm
And Barney still got re-elected many times over.

O-Trap- I understand the skepticism. I have it too. My friend showed me that youtube link yesterday along with another that has an audio piece that is supposedly John Pedosta torturing a child and how it sounds just like Podesta talking at HRC's after-election announcement. I tried to explain that audio files can be manipulated fairly easily these days.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:01pm
Apple;1837798 wrote:And Barney still got re-elected many times over.

O-Trap- I understand the skepticism. I have it too. My friend showed me that youtube link yesterday along with another that has an audio piece that is supposedly John Pedosta torturing a child and how it sounds just like Podesta talking at HRC's after-election announcement. I tried to explain that audio files can be manipulated fairly easily these days.
Exactly. If it was ACTUALLY him, there would be more of a stir, because there are people with the sort of expertise who can compare audio to a much more precise degree, and they would have done so by now. At least, one would hope.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:07pm
O-Trap;1837800 wrote:Exactly. If it was ACTUALLY him, there would be more of a stir, because there are people with the sort of expertise who can compare audio to a much more precise degree, and they would have done so by now. At least, one would hope.
Look, "Pizzagate" won't die on this site...unless something comes up that puts some prominent right-wing names at its heart, at which point it will become "fake news" and no longer worth discussing!
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Feb 17, 2017 3:08pm
Heretic;1837802 wrote:Look, "Pizzagate" won't die on this site...unless something comes up that puts some prominent right-wing names at its heart, at which point it will become "fake news" and no longer worth discussing!
Well Denny Hastert is in jail.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:31pm
O-Trap;1837780 wrote:No idea. Possibly having consensual sex with another man from time to time. Why?
He liked to proposition boys, in the capitol building.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:31pm
majorspark;1837790 wrote:Back in the 80's Barney hired a male prostitute to "run errands" for him. He ended up running a prostitution ring out of Barney's Washington apartment.
I know the story. He was investigated by the Congressional Ethics Committee, as I recall, and they found no evidence that he knew about the ring.

By any account, all he knew was that his driver/assistant/peen-massager was living in an apartment he paid for.
Heretic;1837802 wrote:Look, "Pizzagate" won't die on this site...unless something comes up that puts some prominent right-wing names at its heart, at which point it will become "fake news" and no longer worth discussing!
It would no longer be big, even if true.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:31pm
QuakerOats;1837815 wrote:He liked to proposition boys, in the capitol building.
Boys, eh? Below the age of consent? Source?
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Feb 17, 2017 3:45pm
O-Trap;1837817 wrote:Boys, eh? Below the age of consent? Source?
The same place that GUARAN-DAMN-TEES CROOKED HILLARY got 3M illegal votes!!!!!
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Feb 17, 2017 3:45pm
Fairly common knowledge back in the '80's, in addition to the make prostitute ring being run out of his DC apartment.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:46pm
O-Trap;1837816 wrote:I know the story. He was investigated by the Congressional Ethics Committee, as I recall, and they found no evidence that he knew about the ring.
Lets just say there were some congressmen anxious to have this matter swept under the rug.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:49pm
Heretic;1837802 wrote:Look, "Pizzagate" won't die on this site...unless something comes up that puts some prominent right-wing names at its heart, at which point it will become "fake news" and no longer worth discussing!
Wrong.

Pizzagate is NOT about party line. It's about exposing all of them.
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Feb 17, 2017 4:03pm
QuakerOats;1837821 wrote:Fairly common knowledge back in the '80's, in addition to the make prostitute ring being run out of his DC apartment.
So, he was soliciting minors because a lot of people thought so?

Moreover, I've yet to see anything about Frank himself running anything.

Keep digging. Maybe you'll find something that hasn't been public knowledge since I was in pre-school.
majorspark;1837822 wrote:Lets just say there were some congressmen anxious to have this matter swept under the rug.
Oh? Not that it would surprise anyone, but do you have names and sources for this?
Stated nothing about Frank soliciting children or knowing about the ring.
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Feb 17, 2017 4:11pm
Azubuike24;1837827 wrote:Wrong.

Pizzagate is NOT about party line. It's about exposing all of them.
I agree... no party line on this one, if its true it crosses both sides... wouldn't be surprised if there are SCOTUS involved either.
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Feb 17, 2017 4:13pm
Hail Trump
Mark Foley-Jim Kolbe-Denny Hastert
It wasn't at a pizza joint, no just the Republican Caucus of the House.
That was the danger site for young boys.
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Feb 17, 2017 4:34pm
O-Trap;1837830 wrote:Oh? Not that it would surprise anyone, but do you have names and sources for this?
No. The talk was Barney would take others with him by exposing them as gay. It's not good for reelection efforts if you are a conservative Republican and you've gotten a massage at Barney's Brothel.

After the Gerry Studds scandal in the early 80's where he had sex with congressional pages who were minors and was only censured and surprisingly went on to reelection, likely caused these theories to win credence.
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Feb 17, 2017 4:46pm
isadore;1837834 wrote:Hail Trump
Mark Foley-Jim Kolbe-Denny Hastert
It wasn't at a pizza joint, no just the Republican Caucus of the House.
That was the danger site for young boys.
Obvious troll is obvious.
majorspark;1837836 wrote:No. The talk was Barney would take others with him by exposing them as gay. It's not good for reelection efforts if you are a conservative Republican and you've gotten a massage at Barney's Brothel.

After the Gerry Studds scandal in the early 80's where he had sex with congressional pages who were minors and was only censured and surprisingly went on to reelection, likely caused these theories to win credence.
That seems like a fair assessment. Taking the Studds incident into account, you could say there was precedence for there to have been more going on, but without proof, it still seems presumptuous to assume it as true.
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Feb 17, 2017 4:50pm
Hail Trump
The truth is not a troll except to those who like yourself are unwilling to accept it.
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Feb 17, 2017 6:45pm
isadore;1837838 wrote:Hail Trump
The truth is not a troll except to those who like yourself are unwilling to accept it.
Nice troll, troll.
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Feb 17, 2017 7:03pm
Hail Trump
Obviously the truth about where the true threat was located, will not set you free.
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Feb 17, 2017 7:43pm
isadore;1837846 wrote:Hail Trump
Obviously the truth about where the true threat was located, will not set you free.
Troll on.
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Feb 17, 2017 8:02pm
Hail Trump
what an accusation, on a thread created to discuss one of the ultimate trolls.
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Feb 17, 2017 8:12pm
isadore;1837849 wrote:Hail Trump
what an accusation, on a thread created to discuss one of the ultimate trolls.
Well you'll fit right in with the content. Isn't that nice?

Troll on.