Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

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Jan 25, 2017 4:00pm
gut;1834241 wrote:This is actually encouraging. What purpose do they really serve, at this point? Didn't Romney talk about eliminating funding for PBS? Seems like Trump is wasting no time in actually taking a red pen to the budget (as opposed to just talking about it, like previous Presidents).

God help us if we stop government funding and agendas from corrupting media and science.
They serve as a way to encourage intellectual discussion and provide educational TV shows to developing children. Another small step towards fascism.

We have elected the enemy.
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Jan 25, 2017 4:01pm
sleeper;1834249 wrote:They serve as a way to encourage intellectual discussion and provide educational TV shows to developing children.

We have elected the enemy.
And why can't anybody else do this?
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Jan 25, 2017 4:03pm
like_that;1834250 wrote:And why can't anybody else do this?
Free market doesn't always work well with a public good with no profit incentive.

NPR and PBS are vital to the intellectual health of the nation but very difficult to make money encouraging that.
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Jan 25, 2017 4:04pm
sleeper;1834249 wrote:They serve as a way to encourage intellectual discussion and provide educational TV shows to developing children.
Child PLEASE....mama's watching Oprah re-runs
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Jan 25, 2017 4:05pm
gut;1834254 wrote:Child PLEASE....mama's watching Oprah re-runs
Entertainment has market value. Intellectual discussion, vital to the health of the nation, does not.

SAD!
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Jan 25, 2017 4:06pm
sleeper;1834252 wrote: NPR and PBS are vital to the intellectual health of the nation but very difficult to make money encouraging that.
Dinosaurs in a social media-driven world. Those organizations have less justification for existing than the Post Office...and I actually like some of the stuff on NPR and PBS, but they aren't remotely influential like you appear to be suggesting.
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Jan 25, 2017 4:06pm
"An order being prepared for Trump's signature includes the drastic measure of suspending the entire refugee program for four months in an attempt to gauge which country's migrants pose the least risk for US national security. A program for admitting Syrian refugees, who are fleeing civil war and a humanitarian crisis, would be ended indefinitely."

Make's sense. Trump isn't against Muslims, he was just playing one on TV to get votes right?
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Jan 25, 2017 4:13pm
sleeper;1834252 wrote:Free market doesn't always work well with a public good with no profit incentive.

NPR and PBS are vital to the intellectual health of the nation but very difficult to make money encouraging that.
Maybe if you lived in the 1950s. You have many resources like YouTube, podcasts, Netflix, stations dedicated to education, etc. All can be done for free (except the TV stations obviously) and then when the public seeks them they receive funding from private entities. Crazy how that works. Tell me more about how Khan Academy needed the government to fund him.


Lol I have to give your credit. You know how to spin it with this new act.

Sleeper 2012: all government employees are trash.

Sleeper 2017: Moar government programs plz!!
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Jan 25, 2017 4:25pm
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-tax-cuts-deficits-234143

Republicans are discussing tax cuts that wouldn’t be offset by revenue increases elsewhere.

Michael Grunwald (@MikeGrunwald):

The core of the Republican philosophy since 1994 is that fiscal responsibility is only important when there's a Democratic president.

I agree with this. Paul Ryan and majority of the the GOP are total cowards.
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Jan 25, 2017 4:26pm
like_that;1834261 wrote: Lol I have to give your credit. You know how to spin it with this new act.

Sleeper 2012: all government employees are trash.

Sleeper 2017: Moar government programs plz!!


Sometimes people hit it big and as they age they turn into liberals out of some sort of guilt complex. They made theirs, and in trying to protect it, they support big government which in turn hurts the ability of others to 'make theirs'. Strange phenomenon.



Except he is just trolling.
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Jan 25, 2017 4:47pm
Commander of Awesome;1834263 wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-tax-cuts-deficits-234143

Republicans are discussing tax cuts that wouldn’t be offset by revenue increases elsewhere.

Michael Grunwald (@MikeGrunwald):

The core of the Republican philosophy since 1994 is that fiscal responsibility is only important when there's a Democratic president.

I agree with this. Paul Ryan and majority of the the GOP are total cowards.
Agree. Tax cuts aren't necessary. Freeze spending across the board, get rid of most regulations, and start counting the tax revenue.

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Jan 25, 2017 4:50pm
fish82;1834270 wrote:Agree. Tax cuts aren't necessary. Freeze spending across the board, get rid of most regulations, and start counting the tax revenue.

I disagree with this wholeheartedly. It usually doesn't work, and you don't have to look much further than the banking industry to realize that.
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Jan 25, 2017 5:02pm
Commander of Awesome;1834263 wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-tax-cuts-deficits-234143

Republicans are discussing tax cuts that wouldn’t be offset by revenue increases elsewhere.

Michael Grunwald (@MikeGrunwald):

The core of the Republican philosophy since 1994 is that fiscal responsibility is only important when there's a Democratic president.

I agree with this. Paul Ryan and majority of the the GOP are total cowards.
You can offset tax cuts wroth spending cuts.
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Jan 25, 2017 5:55pm
superman;1834273 wrote:You can offset tax cuts wroth spending cuts.
Not what they're proposing.
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Jan 25, 2017 6:25pm
sleeper;1834252 wrote:Free market doesn't always work well with a public good with no profit incentive.

NPR and PBS are vital to the intellectual health of the nation but very difficult to make money encouraging that.
you cant be serious.
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Jan 25, 2017 6:32pm
Spock;1834278 wrote:you cant be serious.
Great counterpoint. :rolleyes:
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Jan 25, 2017 9:52pm
Slashing regulatory policies can (key word) be a good thing if it's responsibly done. Not so sure that is possible tho.
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Jan 25, 2017 9:56pm
SportsAndLady;1834295 wrote:Slashing regulatory policies can (key word) be a good thing if it's responsibly done. Not so sure that is possible tho.
We've certainly seen how regulation and general anti-growth agenda can take the steam out of a recovery.

It could be as simple as businesses suddenly aren't looking at 8 more years of Obama with Hillary. Legit reason to be optimistic, not least among which is cut in corporate rates.
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Jan 26, 2017 3:45pm
Yeah who needs clean air or clean water? Who needs to make sure companies are paying their taxes? Who cares about the safety of products?

Obama had STUNNING economic growth over the last 8 years WITH a strong push to protect the environment and the health of US citizens. Trump? All the cons, none of the benefits.
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Jan 26, 2017 3:57pm
this just in... trump is using an unsecured phone, his 'upper management' staff are using a unsecured private server, and trump voters are still ignorant to what the word hypocrisy means.
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Jan 26, 2017 4:02pm
sleeper;1834356 wrote:Yeah who needs clean air or clean water? Who needs to make sure companies are paying their taxes? Who cares about the safety of products?

Obama had STUNNING economic growth over the last 8 years WITH a strong push to protect the environment and the health of US citizens. Trump? All the cons, none of the benefits.

obama had the worst post-recession growth in US history; basically we had no growth.

But that is to be expected when the prez is a professional agitator trying run a capitalist economy with marxist policies.



What a difference an election makes .................Trump Train rolling ....
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Jan 26, 2017 4:05pm
QuakerOats;1834362 wrote:obama had the worst post-recession growth in US history; basically we had no growth.

But that is to be expected when the prez is a professional agitator trying run a capitalist economy with marxist policies.



What a difference an election makes .................Trump Train rolling ....
Sorry but numbers don't lie. Obama will go down in history as one of the best economic Presidents of all time.
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Jan 26, 2017 4:07pm
https://www.indy100.com/article/trump-weekly-list-immigrants-crimes-hitler-comparisons-7547211

Trump to release weekly list of crimes committed by immigrants. Last person to do this? Hitler.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/25/donald-trump-claims-none-of-those-3-to-5-million-illegal-votes-were-cast-for-him-zero/

Donld Trump claims 3-5 million votes were illegal with no evidence. Also claims none of these illegal votes were cast for him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/26/in-his-first-major-tv-interview-as-president-trump-is-endlessly-obsessed-about-his-popularity/?utm_term=.3642bdd68da1

First interview as President, talks only about how popular he is...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/01/job-approval-rating-quinnipiac-poll-234225

...with a 36 percent approval rating.



Simply insanity. We have elected the enemy.
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gut
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Jan 26, 2017 4:08pm
Commander of Awesome;1834361 wrote:this just in... trump is using an unsecured phone
Hmmmm.....near as I can tell, that has not been confirmed and is "news" being pushed by, unsurprisingly, left-leaning sites. All I found on a quick [if incomplete] google search was Fox saying it was unconfirmed, and nothing from WaPo.

I'm more interested in knowing how his Twitter account has been secured (though how would we ever know if it was hacked, because Trump is capable of tweeting, literally, ANYTHING).
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Jan 26, 2017 4:09pm