superman;1865196 wrote:Good.

O-Trap;1866563 wrote:Wait. I thought immigration was cool as long as it was legal and through the proper channels.

Or was that never the sentiment, but it served as a convenient defense?

jmog;1866544 wrote:Trump said that "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides."

So, he condemned the acts, called them bigots and racists, etc. He did not specifically name their group, is that your issue?

Ivanka said the actual words you are apparently looking for in "There should be no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo-nazis,"


Neither downplayed this attack like last admin calling things "work place violence".

I can see your point a little, that he should have specifically called out the white-nationalists by name, but he was still rather specific calling "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence" directly referring to the incidents in Charlottsville like the car running into the crowd.

O-Trap;1866568 wrote:I actually think you make a good case. Whether or not the president named them, he did refer to them specifically, and he did outrightly condemn their actions, calling them "hatred" and "bigotry."

And I hadn't heard anything about Ivanka, but if that's a direct quote, it's pretty explicit as well.

In any case, it certainly seemed clear enough for Duke to know who he was talking about ... and get butthurt about it:



While the "on many sides" seems to be bothering people, it would seem like they're missing the forest for a single tree.

He's still a shitty president, but I don't think his response here was particularly inappropriate.

iclfan2;1866569 wrote:Are we forgetting that Obama never condemned the BLM for the guy shooting 5 cops in Texas? Or the fact that the media portrayed that guy as a lone wolf, but now all republicans are nazi's? Why is the alt-right conservative's problem, but Antifa gets a pass, and is not the left's responsibility? And why do they act like violence doesn't occur at almost every single Antifa or BLM event?

The entire event in Charlotessville was bad, and was condemned across the board. But the portrayal that this is an alt-right problem only is ridiculous. Scalise getting shot by a Bernie supporter was out of the news in 3 days.

iclfan2;1866569 wrote:Are we forgetting that Obama never condemned the BLM for the guy shooting 5 cops in Texas? Or the fact that the media portrayed that guy as a lone wolf, but now all republicans are nazi's? Why is the alt-right conservative's problem, but Antifa gets a pass, and is not the left's responsibility? And why do they act like violence doesn't occur at almost every single Antifa or BLM event?

The entire event in Charlotessville was bad, and was condemned across the board. But the portrayal that this is an alt-right problem only is ridiculous. Scalise getting shot by a Bernie supporter was out of the news in 3 days.

gut;1866580 wrote:Exactly. I think Trump's words meant or implied that he was also referring to protest violence in general, which includes the "good protestors" the left loves....and that's why they got upset with Trump because big 'ol meanie said violence is unacceptable.

BoatShoes;1866585 wrote:I think the point is that Trump is happy to attack individual people directly all the time but weirdly didn't even address the individual in this case.

isadore;1866633 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, it only took 48 hours for President Trump to figure out the KKK and Neo-Nazis were bad guys.

Spock;1866638 wrote:you going to post this on every thread?

ppaw1999;1866728 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-demands-details-on-all-visitors-to-anti-trump-protest-website/ar-AAq7rGi?li=BBnb7Kz

Big Brother is watching. I can imagine the out cry if this were done during the Obama administration. Two dysfunctional political parties and no end in sight.

iclfan2;1866569 wrote:Are we forgetting that Obama never condemned the BLM for the guy shooting 5 cops in Texas? Or the fact that the media portrayed that guy as a lone wolf, but now all republicans are nazi's? Why is the alt-right conservative's problem, but Antifa gets a pass, and is not the left's responsibility? And why do they act like violence doesn't occur at almost every single Antifa or BLM event?

The entire event in Charlotessville was bad, and was condemned across the board. But the portrayal that this is an alt-right problem only is ridiculous. Scalise getting shot by a Bernie supporter was out of the news in 3 days.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1866745 wrote:None of this is accurate at all.

iclfan2;1866749 wrote:None? Do tell. The only inaccuracy is that Obama may have condemned the BLM or whatever he was. Didn't see him having to condemn every march that blocked highways and got police and other people injured.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1866767 wrote:Whatever Obama did or didn't do continually infuriated people who disagree with him (within and without the media). Whatever Trump does or doesn't do continually infuriates people who disagree with him (within or without the media).

ppaw1999;1866728 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-demands-details-on-all-visitors-to-anti-trump-protest-website/ar-AAq7rGi?li=BBnb7Kz

Big Brother is watching. I can imagine the out cry if this were done during the Obama administration. Two dysfunctional political parties and no end in sight.