Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

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Feb 2, 2017 6:07 PM
I had to show id and submit to a background check to buy a handgun.
Feb 2, 2017 6:07pm
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Feb 2, 2017 6:12 PM
superman;1835486 wrote:I had to show id and submit to a background check to buy a handgun.
Not to a private seller. "there are fewer barriers to buying a gun privately than there are to voting. The private gun sale requires no wait, no identification, and no easily enforceable disqualifications."
Feb 2, 2017 6:12pm
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Feb 2, 2017 6:16 PM
Commander of Awesome;1835487 wrote:Not to a private seller. "there are fewer barriers to buying a gun privately than there are to voting. The private gun sale requires no wait, no identification, and no easily enforceable disqualifications."
Apples to oranges.

When you are talking about a private seller.
Feb 2, 2017 6:16pm
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Feb 2, 2017 6:25 PM
superman;1835489 wrote:Apples to oranges.

When you are talking about a private seller.
From what I've gathered (finding a recent study or exact number is tricky for obvious reasons. However I do think it's safe to assume some percentage higher than 30% is a conservative estimate), roughly 40% of firearms sold or obtained (transfer/gift) in the united states far under this, IE NO BACKGROUND check. You think that is ok?
Feb 2, 2017 6:25pm
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Feb 2, 2017 6:31 PM
Commander of Awesome;1835490 wrote:From what I've gathered, roughly 40% of firearms sold or obtained (transfer/gift) in the united states far under this, IE NO BACKGROUND check. You think that is ok?
I think there is no way to stop it.

Also, shockingly, there is some fake news here.

The ruling actually just removed a flagging method that was opposed by mental health providers.
Feb 2, 2017 6:31pm
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Feb 2, 2017 6:40 PM
superman;1835492 wrote:I think there is no way to stop it.

Also, shockingly, there is some fake news here.

The ruling actually just removed a flagging method that was opposed by mental health providers.
Damn really? Got a link?
Feb 2, 2017 6:40pm
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Feb 2, 2017 6:48 PM
Commander of Awesome;1835495 wrote:Damn really? Got a link?
I should have said supposedly at this point. Details are murky. I'll post a link when I see a legit one.
Feb 2, 2017 6:48pm
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Feb 2, 2017 6:51 PM
superman;1835498 wrote:I should have said supposedly at this point. Details are murky. I'll post a link when I see a legit one.
Solid, I'll be keeping an eye out as well. Curious to know more.
Feb 2, 2017 6:51pm
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Feb 3, 2017 7:42 AM
Commander of Awesome;1835421 wrote:Selective facts

Ignorance is bliss amirite?
Nope...youarewrong.

There is simply no statistical relevance of a sample of, say 1,000 people's opinions to say that represents 128,000,000 people.
Feb 3, 2017 7:42am
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Feb 3, 2017 10:29 AM
fish82;1835467 wrote:"Love Trumping Hate" involves more arson and assault than I expected.


Post of the week; get a beer.
Feb 3, 2017 10:29am
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Feb 3, 2017 10:38 AM
Kellyanne Conway makes up the "Bowling Green Massacre" to justify Muslim ban.

You simply cannot make this stuff up! Republicans own it!
Feb 3, 2017 10:38am
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Feb 3, 2017 10:50 AM
Commander of Awesome;1835495 wrote:Damn really? Got a link?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/444582/no-gop-did-not-just-repeal-background-check-system-or-give-guns-mentally-ill

I do not believe that to be an unbiased link but it is interesting to note this was also backed by the aclu and many other groups who would not normally be involved in gun control arguments.
Feb 3, 2017 10:50am
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Feb 3, 2017 11:38 AM
wkfan;1835521 wrote:Nope...youarewrong.

There is simply no statistical relevance of a sample of, say 1,000 people's opinions to say that represents 128,000,000 people.
Again, that is not correct. Look at a sample size calculator.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

I did 300M ppl with a 95% and a confidence interval of 1 and survey size is 9k.

Most polling companies use 400 or 1000 people in their samples. There is a reason for this:
A sample size of 400 will give you a confidence interval of +/-5% 19 times out of 20 (95%)
A sample size of 1000 will give you a confidence interval of +/-3% 19 times out of 20 (95%)
Feb 3, 2017 11:38am
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Feb 3, 2017 11:47 AM
Commander of Awesome;1835536 wrote:Again, that is not correct. Look at a sample size calculator.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

I did 300M ppl with a 95% and a confidence interval of 1 and survey size is 9k.

Most polling companies use 400 or 1000 people in their samples. There is a reason for this:
A sample size of 400 will give you a confidence interval of +/-5% 19 times out of 20 (95%)
A sample size of 1000 will give you a confidence interval of +/-3% 19 times out of 20 (95%)
If its a truly random sample size then you are correct.
Feb 3, 2017 11:47am
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Feb 3, 2017 11:55 AM
sleeper;1835532 wrote:Kellyanne Conway makes up the "Bowling Green Massacre" to justify Muslim ban.

You simply cannot make this stuff up! Republicans own it!
Found the Bowling Green Massacre

Feb 3, 2017 11:55am
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Feb 3, 2017 12:02 PM
Iliketurtles;1835538 wrote:Found the Bowling Green Massacre

Does...this mean J.T. Barrett won't be able to play next season because he's being waterboarded?
Feb 3, 2017 12:02pm
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Feb 3, 2017 12:15 PM
Heretic;1835539 wrote:Does...this mean J.T. Barrett won't be able to play next season because he's being waterboarded?
It's always a possibility with this administration.
Feb 3, 2017 12:15pm
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Feb 3, 2017 12:35 PM
isadore;1835299 wrote:Hail Trump
What will be his Reichstag fire?
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Feb 3, 2017 12:35pm
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Feb 5, 2017 5:44 PM
Heretic;1835539 wrote:Does...this mean J.T. Barrett won't be able to play next season because he's being waterboarded?
A boy can dream.
Feb 5, 2017 5:44pm
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Feb 5, 2017 8:32 PM
Hail Trump
just another survivor of the Bowling Green Massacre in our new alternate fact universe.
Feb 5, 2017 8:32pm
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Feb 5, 2017 10:49 PM
isadore;1835580 wrote:Hail Trump
just another survivor of the Bowling Green Massacre in our new alternate fact universe.
She misspoke and corrected herself you fucking retard.
Feb 5, 2017 10:49pm
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Feb 5, 2017 11:12 PM
No, she got caught lying and couldn't come up with a cognizant explanation you trump guzzling cum
lizzard.
Feb 5, 2017 11:12pm
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Feb 5, 2017 11:21 PM
superman;1835623 wrote:She misspoke and corrected herself you fucking retard.
Hail Trump! Misspoke, she created a massacre with no basis in fact to use alternative facts to defend their immigration ban.
Feb 5, 2017 11:21pm
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Feb 6, 2017 6:17 AM
Devils Advocate;1835625 wrote:No, she got caught lying and couldn't come up with a cognizant explanation you trump guzzling cum
lizzard.
Fuck you.
Feb 6, 2017 6:17am