Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 7, 2016 2:48pm
True, I was speculating...which, of course, is "subjective." Half the discussion on these forums are subjective in some capacity. We'll see.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 7, 2016 2:54pm
Unless OSU dismantles them. I think the only way a team that doesnt make/win their conference championship makes it is if other teams really flop. Not that it would be "right" but I just think if, as we speculate, Clemson, OSU, Bama and Wash win out I dont think they allow a team, even with just one loss, like michigan in that didnt even get to their conf champ game. Just dont think it happens.sleeper;1822331 wrote:IMO, a 1 loss Michigan is at worst the 3rd best team in the country.
I'd only put OSU and Bama above them.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 7, 2016 4:12pm
yup, he's in big trouble...
http://recordpub.com/sports/2016/11/07/kent-state-football-star-safety-nate-holley-suspended-indefinitely
http://recordpub.com/sports/2016/11/07/kent-state-football-star-safety-nate-holley-suspended-indefinitely
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 8, 2016 12:37pm
I agree. I don't think they do and I don't think they shouldthavoice;1822364 wrote:I just think if, as we speculate, Clemson, OSU, Bama and Wash win out I dont think they allow a team, even with just one loss, like michigan in that didnt even get to their conf champ game. Just dont think it happens.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 8, 2016 12:48pm
I dont believe that it could never happen, but just that there needs to be a lot of 1-2 loss teams before they would allow it. If Mich loses in a close game, and finish with that one loss and Wash, Clemson and such lose as well.......it could happen, but a lot of shit needs to happen first. OSU/MI shouldnt be worried though. I believe they pretty much control their destinyFatHobbit;1822637 wrote:I agree. I don't think they do and I don't think they should
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 8, 2016 7:18pm
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Michigan
4. Washington
5. Ohio State
6. Louisville
7. Wisconsin
8. Texas A&M
9. Auburn
10. Penn State
11. Oklahoma
12. Colorado
13. Oklahoma State
14. Va Tech
15. Utah
16. WVU
17. UNC
18. FSU
19. Nebraska
20. USC
21. WMU
22. Boise St.
23. Washington State
24. LSU
25. Arkansas
2. Clemson
3. Michigan
4. Washington
5. Ohio State
6. Louisville
7. Wisconsin
8. Texas A&M
9. Auburn
10. Penn State
11. Oklahoma
12. Colorado
13. Oklahoma State
14. Va Tech
15. Utah
16. WVU
17. UNC
18. FSU
19. Nebraska
20. USC
21. WMU
22. Boise St.
23. Washington State
24. LSU
25. Arkansas
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 8, 2016 7:22pm
Not really surprised that UW is at 4, thought it might be OSU.
A&M dropping only 4 spots is a complete and total mockery of the system.
A&M dropping only 4 spots is a complete and total mockery of the system.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 8, 2016 7:25pm
That @Auburn win is looking better and better....until Bama drills them. Based on those behind them, I don't mind them being 8th.wildcats20;1822791 wrote:Not really surprised that UW is at 4, thought it might be OSU.
A&M dropping only 4 spots is a complete and total mockery of the system.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 8, 2016 7:28pm
They just got beat by a team that had 3(!!!) wins.Ironman92;1822793 wrote:That @Auburn win is looking better and better....until Bama drills them. Based on those behind them, I don't mind them being 8th.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 8, 2016 7:29pm
A&M at 8 is the biggest joke I've ever heard. Miss state almost just lost to a FCS team. A&M loses to them and they're now 8? Jesus that's horrible.
And OSU, according to the committee's logic, should be 4.
Putting A&M at 4 in front of Washington and then not OSU is just a clear SEC bias.
And OSU, according to the committee's logic, should be 4.
Putting A&M at 4 in front of Washington and then not OSU is just a clear SEC bias.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 8, 2016 7:35pm
I'm aware but hard to put Auburn above them as Auburns wins aren't any better and got beat at home by them. Oklahoma? Colorado? OK State?wildcats20;1822794 wrote:They just got beat by a team that had 3(!!!) wins.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 8, 2016 7:45pm
A&M is still at 8 because they beat Auburn.
The committee supposedly looks at what the team is like "now" though, so I would think it wouldn't even matter that they beat Auburn early in the season.
It does seem very inconsistent to put Washington at 4 when they weren't good enough to be there last week. I guess it'll all sort itself out, but I kinda wonder what will happen if complete chaos ensues and it really comes down to splitting hairs.
The committee supposedly looks at what the team is like "now" though, so I would think it wouldn't even matter that they beat Auburn early in the season.
It does seem very inconsistent to put Washington at 4 when they weren't good enough to be there last week. I guess it'll all sort itself out, but I kinda wonder what will happen if complete chaos ensues and it really comes down to splitting hairs.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 8, 2016 7:56pm
Teams 8-13 are all pretty tight. I have trouble saying which team has the better resume. Need more info.ironman02;1822799 wrote:A&M is still at 8 because they beat Auburn.
The committee supposedly looks at what the team is like "now" though, so I would think it wouldn't even matter that they beat Auburn early in the season.
It does seem very inconsistent to put Washington at 4 when they weren't good enough to be there last week. I guess it'll all sort itself out, but I kinda wonder what will happen if complete chaos ensues and it really comes down to splitting hairs.
Personally I'd have Auburn at #8 as I feel they are better than the others.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 9, 2016 10:24am
Clarity.wildcats20;1822790 wrote:1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Michigan
4. Washington
5. Ohio State
6. Louisville
7. Wisconsin
8. Texas A&M
9. Auburn
10. Penn State
11. Oklahoma
12. Colorado
13. Oklahoma State
14. Va Tech
15. Utah
16. WVU
17. UNC
18. FSU
19. Nebraska
20. USC
21. WMU
22. Boise St.
23. Washington State
24. LSU
25. Arkansas
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 9, 2016 11:09am
Um, so.........I was right.....you going to admit to it?SportsAndLady;1822795 wrote:A&M at 8 is the biggest joke I've ever heard. Miss state almost just lost to a FCS team. A&M loses to them and they're now 8? Jesus that's horrible.
And OSU, according to the committee's logic, should be 4.
Putting A&M at 4 in front of Washington and then not OSU is just a clear SEC bias.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 9, 2016 11:23am
Lol.If you vot like this
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 9, 2016 12:52pm
My point wasn't about being right. I wasn't predicting what the committee was going to do. My point was the committee, since they put Washington behind A&M, should put OSU ahead of Washington, too. I still think that.thavoice;1823146 wrote:Um, so.........I was right.....you going to admit to it?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 9, 2016 12:59pm
Fair enough. I realize no one really wants to be at the 4 spot to face alabama.SportsAndLady;1823222 wrote:My point wasn't about being right. I wasn't predicting what the committee was going to do. My point was the committee, since they put Washington behind A&M, should put OSU ahead of Washington, too. I still think that.
I think if things stay the status quo it will be Bama, Clemson, undefeated WASH or undefeated Mich) as the top 3. Wash stays undefeated and OSU wins out I think OSU gets the 4.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 9, 2016 1:31pm
sure didn't matter in '14thavoice;1823228 wrote:Fair enough. I realize no one really wants to be at the 4 spot to face alabama.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 9, 2016 1:33pm
Sure didnt!vball10set;1823244 wrote:sure didn't matter in '14
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 9, 2016 2:27pm
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 9, 2016 10:48pm
Crappy weekend of games.
Hopefully USC can keep it tight with Washington but I doubt it. Hoping Ole Miss beats A&M.
Oklahoma vs Baylor
Nothing looks to be a must watch.
Hopefully USC can keep it tight with Washington but I doubt it. Hoping Ole Miss beats A&M.
Oklahoma vs Baylor
Nothing looks to be a must watch.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 10, 2016 11:12am
Looking forward to the MAC championship when Ohio ends* WMU's undefeated season.
*Or loses 44-3.
*Or loses 44-3.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 10, 2016 11:59am
Ole Miss without Chad Kelly probably has zero chance.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 10, 2016 12:00pm
Heretic;1823509 wrote:Looking forward to the MAC championship when Ohio ends* WMU's undefeated season.
*Or loses 44-3.
Two way tie in the MAC, Marion Local and Coldwater.
What..there is a different MAC?