2016 General College Football Discussion

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Ironman92
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Oct 30, 2016 12:11am
Go Clemson!!!! Can't wait to hear Dabo interview!
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ironman02
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Oct 30, 2016 11:33am
Ironman92;1820032 wrote:Go Clemson!!!! Can't wait to hear Dabo interview!
He's such a douche bag. So tired of them getting lucky and then having to hear him spout off like a moron.
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ironman02
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Oct 30, 2016 11:37am
So, it looks like the Big 12 is basically done. Hoping that Oklahoma wins that shitty conference to help OSU's strength of schedule.

Seems like Bama will be in, Clemson most likely will go unscathed (even though they should have lost like 3 times already). Then you have Washington and the B1G champion to round out the four playoff teams. If Washington loses, then that opens things up for Louisville or maybe a second team from the B1G or the SEC depending on how things work out with conference championship games.
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slingshot4ever
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Oct 30, 2016 12:56pm
What OU does is of no concern to OSU. We win out we are in. We lose a second game we are out. Simple as that.
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ironman02
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Oct 30, 2016 1:02pm
slingshot4ever;1820114 wrote:What OU does is of no concern to OSU. We win out we are in. We lose a second game we are out. Simple as that.
Could matter for potential seeding. Would you rather be the #3 and play Bama in the title game, or the #4 and play them right out of the gate? Oklahoma continuing to win is a good thing for OSU because it makes that win look better on the resume.

None of that will matter, though, if the Buckeyes don't get it together.
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Oct 30, 2016 1:02pm
slingshot4ever;1820114 wrote:What OU does is of no concern to OSU. We win out we are in. We lose a second game we are out. Simple as that.
I'm not sure we make it in, without a big ten championship appearance.

I think we need another PSU loss and need to win out.
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ironman02
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Oct 30, 2016 1:05pm
SportsAndLady;1820119 wrote:I'm not sure we make it in, without a big ten championship appearance.

I think we need another PSU loss and need to win out.
Penn State does not need to lose unless Michigan loses to someone other than OSU. If they all end up with 1 conference loss, OSU will win the tiebreaker and go to the B1G Championship game.
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wildcats20
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Oct 30, 2016 1:35pm
Right. What Penn State does, doesn't matter one bit to OSU. All that matters is OSU and Michigan win out til they play each other.

Penn State has 2 losses already, so they lose on the tie breaker if it's a 3 way tie with 1 conference loss.
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slingshot4ever
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Oct 30, 2016 3:30pm
ironman02;1820118 wrote:Could matter for potential seeding. Would you rather be the #3 and play Bama in the title game, or the #4 and play them right out of the gate? Oklahoma continuing to win is a good thing for OSU because it makes that win look better on the resume.

None of that will matter, though, if the Buckeyes don't get it together.
i don't worry about seeding...just be in the top 4...even if you miss Bama In semis you'll get stuck with them in final more than likely
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vball10set
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Oct 31, 2016 7:59am
ironman02;1820122 wrote:Penn State does not need to lose unless Michigan loses to someone other than OSU. If they all end up with 1 conference loss, OSU will win the tiebreaker and go to the B1G Championship game.
this
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slingshot4ever
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Oct 31, 2016 11:45am
Let's just worry about Nebraska. We have enough of our own problems than to concern ourselves with what other teams are doing....
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Oct 31, 2016 12:11pm
ironman02;1820122 wrote:Penn State does not need to lose unless Michigan loses to someone other than OSU. If they all end up with 1 conference loss, OSU will win the tiebreaker and go to the B1G Championship game.
Thanks for that. I didn't know that. I thought it'd be PSU since they had the head to head against us. But I see now where that would be the case if only OSU and PSU have 1 loss.
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Oct 31, 2016 1:05pm
OSU is a lock if they win out.

Looks like there are really only 6 teams with a shot to make the playoff, and if more than 2 of those lose, you still have an argument that the losers there have a better argument than some of the teams who could jump them.

Alabama is pretty much a lock if they win the SEC
Clemson or Louisville are a lock if they win the ACC
Washington has the inside track on an unbeaten Pac 12 title (could lose at Wazzou)
Ohio State/Michigan winner, barring they have 1-loss and win Big 10, are a lock
Louisville is probably 5th right now, so would need someone to lose
Ohio State is probably 6th, but with more control than Louisville as they will get to beat Michigan and very likely jump Louisville

Who else is even in the discussion? Maybe A&M would be 7th right now, barring like everyone else loses ahead of them? Florida? Nebraska? Both of those have extreme uphill battles and would have to directly beat the teams ahead of them.
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Oct 31, 2016 1:46pm
Azubuike24;1820543 wrote:OSU is a lock if they win out.

Looks like there are really only 6 teams with a shot to make the playoff, and if more than 2 of those lose, you still have an argument that the losers there have a better argument than some of the teams who could jump them.

Alabama is pretty much a lock if they win the SEC
Clemson or Louisville are a lock if they win the ACC
Washington has the inside track on an unbeaten Pac 12 title (could lose at Wazzou)
Ohio State/Michigan winner, barring they have 1-loss and win Big 10, are a lock
Louisville is probably 5th right now, so would need someone to lose
Ohio State is probably 6th, but with more control than Louisville as they will get to beat Michigan and very likely jump Louisville

Who else is even in the discussion? Maybe A&M would be 7th right now, barring like everyone else loses ahead of them? Florida? Nebraska? Both of those have extreme uphill battles and would have to directly beat the teams ahead of them.
There's a lot more than 6 eligible playoff teams, Buike. Come on.
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thavoice
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Oct 31, 2016 5:27pm
Azubuike24;1820543 wrote:OSU is a lock if they win out.

Looks like there are really only 6 teams with a shot to make the playoff, and if more than 2 of those lose, you still have an argument that the losers there have a better argument than some of the teams who could jump them.

Alabama is pretty much a lock if they win the SEC
Clemson or Louisville are a lock if they win the ACC
Washington has the inside track on an unbeaten Pac 12 title (could lose at Wazzou)
Ohio State/Michigan winner, barring they have 1-loss and win Big 10, are a lock
Louisville is probably 5th right now, so would need someone to lose
Ohio State is probably 6th, but with more control than Louisville as they will get to beat Michigan and very likely jump Louisville

Who else is even in the discussion? Maybe A&M would be 7th right now, barring like everyone else loses ahead of them? Florida? Nebraska? Both of those have extreme uphill battles and would have to directly beat the teams ahead of them.
Said that right after the loss. I would venture to say that in a vast majority of seasons a 1 loss big team tournament champion will make it into the playoff.
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Oct 31, 2016 6:31pm
OSU is not a lock if they win out. They do need some help. But yeah, of all goes to plan, they will be in the playoff.

OSU can win out and not even make the B1G Championship.
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thavoice
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Oct 31, 2016 6:48pm
wildcats20;1820648 wrote:OSU is not a lock if they win out. They do need some help. But yeah, of all goes to plan, they will be in the playoff.

OSU can win out and not even make the B1G Championship.
No. THey dont need help. The only teams who could be above them are the undefeated squads.

If OSU wins out..and the rest plays out the only teams ahead of them will be the ones without a loss.


Alabama.
Clemson.
Washington.
(western isnt making it undefeated).

So then you have the best of the 1 loss teams:


Boise st? Uh. No.
W. Va or Baylor? Not without a B12 championship game.
Louisville? Nope. WOnt even be in their conf champ game.
TAM? Nope. See above.
Michigan? See above, plus beaten by OSU.

OSU wins out gives them W's against Wisky, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Nebraska.

I am assuming you believe that PSU wins out as well to make a 3 way tie in the division. Looked briefly at the tiebreakers and it seems like it would go pretty far down the list. I still dont tbelieve PSU wins out...
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Oct 31, 2016 6:50pm
They need Michigan's help.
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Oct 31, 2016 9:04pm
Be realistic. Look at remaining schedules. Name the more than 6 or 7 teams who are playoff contenders?
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Oct 31, 2016 11:15pm
Azubuike24;1820659 wrote:Be realistic. Look at remaining schedules. Name the more than 6 or 7 teams who are playoff contenders?
1. Bama
2. Clemson
3. Michigan
4. Washington
5. Louisville
6. Ohio St

7. Wisconsin
8. Florida
9. Nebraska

10. Auburn

Wisconsin: OSU beats Nebraska and then Michigan. If Bama/Clemson hold suit and Wash gets upset (I think this happens to Wash) This would put OSU #3, probably Mich/A+M #4 and #5 and Wisconsin #6.....then Wisconsin beats OSU by 14 in B1G Championship.....I believe Wisconsin would get the final spot. We'll see where Louisville stands tomorrow. I suppose they may have to lose at Houston.

Florida...wins out and beats Bama in ACC Championship and they are in with Wash and Louisville getting upset once

Nebraska ....beat OSU, Mich beat OSU, Wisconsin get upset and beat Michigan in B1G Championship. Need Wash/Louisville losses and Bama to hold suit.

A&M....Bama/Clemson/Mich all hold suit and win out. Washington/Louisville/Nebraska maybe lose 1 more game while A&M wins out
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Nov 1, 2016 11:29am
Like I said, be realistic. Sure, there are more than 6 teams "in the hunt", but in reality, the best teams have the most favorable schedules. It's coming down to 6 teams. Plus, many of these teams play each other.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Auburn, Florida and Nebraska off that list as soon as this weekend. All 3 are major pretenders. Western Michigan has a better chance at the playoff.
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thavoice
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Nov 1, 2016 5:27pm
Azubuike24;1820744 wrote:Like I said, be realistic. Sure, there are more than 6 teams "in the hunt", but in reality, the best teams have the most favorable schedules. It's coming down to 6 teams. Plus, many of these teams play each other.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Auburn, Florida and Nebraska off that list as soon as this weekend. All 3 are major pretenders. Western Michigan has a better chance at the playoff.
I agree and would even pare it down to Alabama, Washington, OSU/MI and Clemson.

I think we can expect one crazy loss by those teams that open things up, but those are the 5 teams who control their own destiny.

I dont think, unless crazy crazy stuff happens, they take a team that doesnt at least make their conf championship, and likely have to win it.
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superman
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Nov 1, 2016 5:39pm
thavoice;1820819 wrote:I agree and would even pare it down to Alabama, Washington, OSU/MI and Clemson.

I think we can expect one crazy loss by those teams that open things up, but those are the 5 teams who control their own destiny.

I dont think, unless crazy crazy stuff happens, they take a team that doesnt at least make their conf championship, and likely have to win it.
Nebraska also controls their own destiny.
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wildcats20
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Nov 1, 2016 7:07pm
Penn State is 12th in the first CFP rankings. So high.
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wildcats20
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Nov 1, 2016 7:14pm
Top 10

10. Nebraska
9. Auburn
8. Wisconsin
7. Louisville
6. OSU
5. Washington
4. Texas A&M
3. Michigan
2. Clemson
1. Alabama