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Dec 4, 2016 12:01 AM
ironman02;1827497 wrote:I'm honestly not very confident. There's a huge push to put Penn State in, and honestly, OSU should have never been in a position where there was any doubt.

Still can't believe that horse shit in Happy Valley actually happened.
Only thing that worries me is how the committee views conference championships. Since every team that made it so far was a conference champ it worries me, but I think Ohio State has a better resume than anyone.
Dec 4, 2016 12:01am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:01 AM
I feel like OSU's resume means they should be in and be #2. I'm just worried that others, including the people who matter, may not see it that way.

The debate should really be between Washington, Michigan, and Penn State, but I guess we'll see.
Dec 4, 2016 12:01am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:02 AM
ironman02;1827499 wrote:The media. I know the committee doesn't necessarily listen to these talking heads, but there's a lot of it going around.
Few here and there, but a lot of what I'm seeing is still Ohio State at #2, let alone not in the top 4.

I wouldn't be too concerned. We have 1 less loss than PSU, and significantly better wins than PSU. That means a whole lot more than head to head.
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Dec 4, 2016 12:02 AM
Terry_Tate;1827500 wrote:Only thing that worries me is how the committee views conference championships. Since every team that made it so far was a conference champ it worries me, but I think Ohio State has a better resume than anyone.
Yep, exactly.
Dec 4, 2016 12:02am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:04 AM
ironman02;1827501 wrote:I feel like OSU's resume means they should be in and be #2. I'm just worried that others, including the people who matter, may not see it that way.

The debate should really be between Washington, Michigan, and Penn State, but I guess we'll see.
You can add Clemson to that list too. Clemson shouldn't be a lock, they just struggled with Virginia fucking tech and has looked completely underwhelming all season. No one team has benefitted more from a weak schedule like Clemson.
Dec 4, 2016 12:04am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:06 AM
ESPN still giving Michigan a prayer. Refreshing lol

Rece Davis saying Washington/Penn St are final team....Washington getting the 4

Washington wins over #12 Colorado, #18 Stanford, #21 Utah......lost to #8 USC and had 127th OOC schedule

Penn State and extra loss with @7-4 Pitt the difference. Beat #3 OSU, #10 Wisconsin, #22 Iowa, #24 Temple

*Guesstimates
Dec 4, 2016 12:06am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:08 AM
Herbstreit has Penn St at 4, Washington 5, Michigan 6
Dec 4, 2016 12:08am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:08 AM
Fowler has OSU 3 and Wash 4
Dec 4, 2016 12:08am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:11 AM
Booger has OSU at 2 and untouchable. Most impressive road win of season (USC close)
Dec 4, 2016 12:11am
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slingshot4ever

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Dec 4, 2016 12:13 AM
Would love to OSU crush Dabo at Ohio Stadium West
Dec 4, 2016 12:13am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:13 AM
And Ironman92 is glad as fuck Michigan beat the hell out of Penn State
Dec 4, 2016 12:13am
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Dec 4, 2016 12:35 AM
Just remember that the committee has said OSU and PSU aren't close. I don't think this win brings them to equal or so close that the head to head or conference championship matters.

If OSU doesn't get in, there is literally no point in playing any tough out of conference games. They would be saying all that matters is conference play. And that is so incredibly not true.
Dec 4, 2016 12:35am
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Dec 4, 2016 4:12 AM
Wouldn't Ohio State provide more revenue/ratings than PSU?
Dec 4, 2016 4:12am
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Dec 4, 2016 6:38 AM
Schlabach and McMurphy projections from ESPN. CFP and NY6.

Both have Alabama vs Washington and OSU vs Clemson. Both also have Bama vs OSU in title game.

Sugar - both with Oklahoma vs Auburn
Rose - both with USC vs Penn State
Cotton - both with Wisconsin vs Western Michigan
Orange - Schlabach with FSU vs Michigan, McMurphy with Louisville vs Michigan

Jerry Palm from CBS
CFP - Bama vs Washington, OSU vs Clemson

Sugar - Oklahoma vs Auburn
Rose - Colorado vs Penn State
Cotton - Wisconsin vs Western Michigan
Orange - FSU vs Michigan
Dec 4, 2016 6:38am
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Dec 4, 2016 7:04 AM
Would be better to see Western Michigan vs Michigan...
Dec 4, 2016 7:04am
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Dec 4, 2016 7:24 AM
Here's a slightly different way to consider comparative resumes. Each loss "cancels" your best win. tOSU's win over TTUN is cancelled by the loss to Penn State. PSU's two losses cancel the Buckeye and Wisky wins. Now give me the best three remaining wins. PSU: Iowa, Temple, Sparty. tOSU: Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Nebraska. Nice season, Lions. Win the Rose Bowl.
Dec 4, 2016 7:24am
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Dec 4, 2016 7:29 AM
Michigan is all but locked into the Orange Bowl.
Dec 4, 2016 7:29am
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Dec 4, 2016 7:34 AM
Actually, the New Year's 6 are basically all set up, unless OSU gets left out of the playoff.

I don't see anyway that Louisville is ranked above FSU. FSU is 12 and Louisville is 13 right now, why would it change?
Dec 4, 2016 7:34am
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Dec 4, 2016 7:41 AM
1.Alabama 2. CLEM 3.OSU 4.WASH
Dec 4, 2016 7:41am
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Dec 4, 2016 7:53 AM
vball10set;1827349 wrote:I don't think this is worthy of S&L's "out on a limb" thread, but IMO there's no doubt it'll be Bama, OSU, Clemson and Washington in the CFP if Clemson & Bama win today. However, what is in doubt is their order, especially if the VaTech/Clemson game is close. If this is the case, I could see Bama (providing they win, of course), OSU, Washington and Clemson. However, if Clemson loses? Bama, OSU, Washington and PSU/Wisky winner.
sticking with this, except the proviso for changing the order..Clemson's resume much better that the Huskies', so they'll remain in my original order
Dec 4, 2016 7:53am
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Dec 4, 2016 7:54 AM
sportswizuhrd;1827513 wrote:Schlabach and McMurphy projections from ESPN. CFP and NY6.

Both have Alabama vs Washington and OSU vs Clemson. Both also have Bama vs OSU in title game.

Sugar - both with Oklahoma vs Auburn
Rose - both with USC vs Penn State
Cotton - both with Wisconsin vs Western Michigan
Orange - Schlabach with FSU vs Michigan, McMurphy with Louisville vs Michigan

Jerry Palm from CBS
CFP - Bama vs Washington, OSU vs Clemson

Sugar - Oklahoma vs Auburn
Rose - Colorado vs Penn State
Cotton - Wisconsin vs Western Michigan
Orange - FSU vs Michigan
USC will crush Penn State
Dec 4, 2016 7:54am
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slingshot4ever

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Dec 4, 2016 8:29 AM
If OSU is left out, the committee will be making it clear that a conference champion overrides SOS. At which point every power 5 team should schedule all FCS teams to ensure no out of conference losses. OSU went to Oklahoma, Big 12 Champ, and killed them.

if OSU can't get in as a non conference champ with their resume no one ever will.
Dec 4, 2016 8:29am
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Dec 4, 2016 8:43 AM
one thing people have to realize too is that the committee is looking at the resumes of PSU vs Washington, NOT PSU vs OSU...the Buckeyes are in...period.
Dec 4, 2016 8:43am
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slingshot4ever

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Dec 4, 2016 9:01 AM
Let week they were, but now they added Wisconsin. Who's to say that doesn't now make them comparable?
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Dec 4, 2016 9:04 AM
slingshot4ever;1827525 wrote:Let week they were, but now they added Wisconsin. Who's to say that doesn't now make them comparable?
The committee, that's who
Dec 4, 2016 9:04am