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Nov 15, 2016 2:28 PM
FatHobbit;1824669 wrote:No fucking way notre dame gets a safety
Piss poor holding call in the end zone.......
Nov 15, 2016 2:28pm
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Nov 15, 2016 4:11 PM
SportsAndLady;1824768 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/TheHerd/videos/1912839275603929/

Preach, Colin.
Exactly what I've been saying. No way does penn st deserve to be in the playoff unless they win the big ten and Washington and Louisville both drop a game. Hell I think they might have a better case than Washington. But no way do they deserve to be in over Ohio st and it's not even close


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Nov 15, 2016 4:35 PM
Crimson streak;1824784 wrote:Exactly what I've been saying. No way does penn st deserve to be in the playoff unless they win the big ten and Washington and Louisville both drop a game. Hell I think they might have a better case than Washington. But no way do they deserve to be in over Ohio st and it's not even close


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Cannot argue much with that.

but how hard of a pill would it be to win the big ten championship, have one loss, beat OSU, yet stay home when the one loss team you beat, OSU, made it?
Nov 15, 2016 4:35pm
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Nov 15, 2016 4:37 PM
Glad to see Colin fighting for OSU, but I don't think his argument is really comparing apples to apples, is it?

He uses the comparison of the NFL,NBA,NCAA using wild cards and at larges. The difference here is that in those sports, the conference/division winner is still getting into the playoff/tournament. In this case, the wild card/at large is getting in INSTEAD of the conference winner. That's a big difference.
Nov 15, 2016 4:37pm
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Nov 15, 2016 4:38 PM
thavoice;1824790 wrote:Cannot argue much with that.

but how hard of a pill would it be to win the big ten championship, have one loss, beat OSU, yet stay home when the one loss team you beat, OSU, made it?
Shouldn't have lost twice then
Nov 15, 2016 4:38pm
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Nov 15, 2016 4:46 PM
Benny The Jet;1824791 wrote:Glad to see Colin fighting for OSU, but I don't think his argument is really comparing apples to apples, is it?

He uses the comparison of the NFL,NBA,NCAA using wild cards and at larges. The difference here is that in those sports, the conference/division winner is still getting into the playoff/tournament. In this case, the wild card/at large is getting in INSTEAD of the conference winner. That's a big difference.
I think his point was more that wild cards win championships in every sport, why can't a "wild card" in cfb win it? Basically that OSU is one of the 4 best teams and could win the championship, even though they're not their conference champion.

Like Colin said, why have a committee if you're just going to put 4 conference winners in?
Nov 15, 2016 4:46pm
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Nov 15, 2016 4:47 PM
thavoice;1824790 wrote:Cannot argue much with that.

but how hard of a pill would it be to win the big ten championship, have one loss, beat OSU, yet stay home when the one loss team you beat, OSU, made it?
They lost twice


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Nov 15, 2016 6:13 PM
I think we're gonna see

Bama, OSU, Louisville, Michigan

Clemson's loss is worse, IMO, than Michigan's. Louisville moves up just based on not losing.
Nov 15, 2016 6:13pm
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Nov 15, 2016 6:34 PM
thavoice;1824790 wrote:Cannot argue much with that.

but how hard of a pill would it be to win the big ten championship, have one loss, beat OSU, yet stay home when the one loss team you beat, OSU, made it?
I don't know and neither will Penn State considering they have two losses now.
Nov 15, 2016 6:34pm
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Nov 15, 2016 9:21 PM
8-1 WVU behind 7-3 USC lol
Nov 15, 2016 9:21pm
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Nov 15, 2016 9:34 PM
This committee loves the Big Ten...2,3,7,8
Nov 15, 2016 9:34pm
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Nov 15, 2016 9:45 PM
LSU up 8?

Lol at A&M down 17
Nov 15, 2016 9:45pm
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Nov 15, 2016 9:46 PM
The remarks made by the ESPN analysts made me feel a lot better about an 11-1 OSU getting into the playoff WITH the B1G Champion. Seems like they think the PAC12 and Big 12 are basically out unless Washington runs the table and looks good doing it. Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, B1G Champion is what they're favoring at the moment. Louisville and Washington are probably huge Michigan fans right now.

It's possible that the #4 spot could potentially come down to a 2 loss B1G Champ, Louisville, and Washington.
Nov 15, 2016 9:46pm
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Nov 16, 2016 8:04 AM
Fly4Fun;1824183 wrote:Welp, posted my list after UM got that INT but then they failed to move anywhere.

1. Bama
2. OSU
3. Clemson
4. Louisville
5. Washington
6. Michigan
7. Wisconsin
8. Oklahoma
9. PSU
10. Colorado
My list wasn't too far off the rankings this week. Basic difference is they respect Michigan more than I do at the moment.
Nov 16, 2016 8:04am
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Nov 16, 2016 9:45 AM
SportsAndLady;1824794 wrote:I think his point was more that wild cards win championships in every sport, why can't a "wild card" in cfb win it? Basically that OSU is one of the 4 best teams and could win the championship, even though they're not their conference champion.

Like Colin said, why have a committee if you're just going to put 4 conference winners in?
If that's what he was getting at then yea, completely agree.
Nov 16, 2016 9:45am
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Nov 16, 2016 11:19 AM
Little surprised Michigan was still in the top 4, but I think they just took the easy way out knowing OSU/MI will battle it out with the loser dropping out.
Nov 16, 2016 11:19am
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Nov 16, 2016 11:28 AM
thavoice;1824925 wrote:Little surprised Michigan was still in the top 4, but I think they just took the easy way out knowing OSU/MI will battle it out with the loser dropping out.
I hate Michigan...but they do have 3 wins vs. top 10 teams now. They're loss was away at night. Their wins are MUCH better than Clemson,Lville,& Washington. I can see why they'd stay there. But I think you're right, they know someone's getting bounced out of there in 2 weeks.
Nov 16, 2016 11:28am
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Nov 16, 2016 11:32 AM
SportsAndLady;1824794 wrote:I think his point was more that wild cards win championships in every sport, why can't a "wild card" in cfb win it? Basically that OSU is one of the 4 best teams and could win the championship, even though they're not their conference champion.

Like Colin said, why have a committee if you're just going to put 4 conference winners in?
No doubt that WC teams have won many championships in the past. Many times because they havent clinched early and arent coasting like some teams who rest guys. BIggest difference though, those sports have a legit process in place for those teams to earn the wild card spot. Not so wiht this...
Nov 16, 2016 11:32am
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Nov 16, 2016 12:45 PM
It's not the "Tournament of Champions". A league title is one more data point among the rest for the members to place the amount of importance they see fit.
Nov 16, 2016 12:45pm
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Nov 16, 2016 12:59 PM
thavoice;1824928 wrote:No doubt that WC teams have won many championships in the past. Many times because they havent clinched early and arent coasting like some teams who rest guys. BIggest difference though, those sports have a legit process in place for those teams to earn the wild card spot. Not so wiht this...
? What am I missing here? Is there a legit process for college football? It's just subjective decisions by a committee.
Nov 16, 2016 12:59pm
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Nov 16, 2016 1:05 PM
SportsAndLady;1824950 wrote:? What am I missing here? Is there a legit process for college football? It's just subjective decisions by a committee.
My bad, I meant those sports in the pro ranks that have WC teams win it all there is paramters, but college it is just subjective of course.. If OSU gets selected without going/winning the B10 game I would consider them a "wild card" team to a point.
Nov 16, 2016 1:05pm
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Nov 17, 2016 11:22 AM
Potentially big game tonight between Houston and Louisville. If Louisville comes to play like they did against WF last weekend, and Houston gives some sort of effort, they'll get beat. It'd be nice of future Texas Coach Herman to completely eliminate the Cards from playoff contention tonight.
Nov 17, 2016 11:22am
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Nov 17, 2016 11:29 AM
Louisville didn't look good against Wake Forest either. Houston definitely has the offense to hang in there.

Louisville is favored by a whopping 14 points at Houston. Cougars with the points easy.
Nov 17, 2016 11:29am
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Nov 17, 2016 4:21 PM
I am very confident in my Houston pick. Herman>petrino
Nov 17, 2016 4:21pm