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Nov 13, 2016 10:12 AM
1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Louisville
5. Washington
6. Michigan
7. Wisconsin
8. Penn State
9. Oklahoma
10. Colorado
Nov 13, 2016 10:12am
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Nov 13, 2016 10:33 AM
Classyposter58;1824243 wrote:1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Louisville
5. Washington
6. Michigan
7. Wisconsin
8. Penn State
9. Oklahoma
10. Colorado
I'll bite.

How do you have Washington over Michigan? Michigan lost on a last second FG to a 4 loss team on the road while Washington lost at home by 13 to a 3 loss team......I would like to call those losses even if you don't mind.

Let's say Stanford cracks the top 25 at #23 this week and Utah sits as high as #12.....those are Washington's best wins. Michigan has defeated Wisconsin who will be no worse than #6-7 AND Colorado who will be right around #10.....AND destroyed top 10 Penn State.

If you are aware of all of that (fair enough if you haven't delved into it) I see no way Washington can be above Michigan this week.
Nov 13, 2016 10:33am
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Nov 13, 2016 10:47 AM
If Michigan beats Ohio State and then Wisconsin again and Colorado continues winning...

Michigan could end with 2 wins over a #10ish Wisconsin, a win over a #7-8 OSU on the road, a blowout wins versus about #8 Penn State and a 17 point victory vs a #7ish Colorado team.

That wold be quite impressive and put them at #2 in playoff rankings
Nov 13, 2016 10:47am
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Nov 13, 2016 11:05 AM
Classyposter58;1824243 wrote:1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Louisville
5. Washington
6. Michigan
7. Wisconsin
8. Penn State
9. Oklahoma
10. Colorado
this if you switch 5 and 6
Nov 13, 2016 11:05am
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Nov 13, 2016 11:16 AM
slingshot4ever;1824250 wrote:this if you switch 5 and 6
Michigan and Louisville are tight IMO. Louisville clearly the better loss but 1 top 15 blowout win over FSU while Mich has 3 top 11 wins by 17 over Colorado, beat top 7 Wisconsin and destroyed top 10 Penn St
Nov 13, 2016 11:16am
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Nov 13, 2016 12:34 PM
I don't think OSU gets left out, even if they're not playing in the B1G title game...but, if they do, that'll be the second year in a row a Michigan loss keeps us from the B1G title game and playoffs. Which would really fucking suck.
Nov 13, 2016 12:34pm
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Nov 13, 2016 12:35 PM
SportsAndLady;1824256 wrote:I don't think OSU gets left out, even if they're not playing in the B1G title game...but, if they do, that'll be the second year in a row a Michigan loss keeps us from the B1G title game and playoffs. Which would really fucking suck.
Or beat Penn State?
Nov 13, 2016 12:35pm
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Nov 13, 2016 12:59 PM
Ironman92;1824246 wrote:I'll bite.

How do you have Washington over Michigan? Michigan lost on a last second FG to a 4 loss team on the road while Washington lost at home by 13 to a 3 loss team......I would like to call those losses even if you don't mind.

Let's say Stanford cracks the top 25 at #23 this week and Utah sits as high as #12.....those are Washington's best wins. Michigan has defeated Wisconsin who will be no worse than #6-7 AND Colorado who will be right around #10.....AND destroyed top 10 Penn State.

If you are aware of all of that (fair enough if you haven't delved into it) I see no way Washington can be above Michigan this week.
Michigans loss IMO was way worse than Washingtons. A 5-4 Iowa team held you to 201 yards of offense? USC is a top 10 with Darnold at QB and has looked awesome since making the switch
Nov 13, 2016 12:59pm
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Nov 13, 2016 1:39 PM
Coaches Poll is out...

Nov 13, 2016 1:39pm
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Nov 13, 2016 1:47 PM
Wisconsin ahead of Washington is funny lol

Also, I'm not opposed to Louisville at #3.
Nov 13, 2016 1:47pm
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Nov 13, 2016 1:55 PM
Clemson beats Louisville and the coaches rank them lower lol
Nov 13, 2016 1:55pm
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Nov 13, 2016 1:59 PM
It seems like the coaches/AP are starting to adapt the mindset of the committee. They seem to care less about head-to-head and more about how teams are playing at the moment, or even overall resume. Washington's OOC SOS is killing them, and the fact that Clemson should have lost about 4 times already is in the mind of the voters too.
Nov 13, 2016 1:59pm
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Nov 13, 2016 2:07 PM
AP Top 10

1. Alabama
2. Ohio St
3. Louisville
4. Michigan
5. Clemson
6. Wisconsin
7. Washington
8. Oklahoma
9. Penn St
10. West Virginia
Nov 13, 2016 2:07pm
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Nov 13, 2016 2:20 PM
Classyposter58;1824264 wrote:Clemson beats Louisville and the coaches rank them lower lol
Stfu. It's one game. They don't do the rankings based only on head to head. Open your eyes.
Nov 13, 2016 2:20pm
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Nov 13, 2016 2:22 PM
2nd highest ranked SEC team is 16th, LSU.

B1G has 5 in the top 20
Nov 13, 2016 2:22pm
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Nov 13, 2016 2:45 PM
wildcats20;1824270 wrote:2nd highest ranked SEC team is 16th, LSU.

B1G has 5 in the top 20
Makes me more confident that OSU could beat Bama if that game happens. Bama is really good, probably the best team in the country. But they haven't played a very tough schedule. They're beating up on some bad and overrated teams.
Nov 13, 2016 2:45pm
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Nov 13, 2016 3:39 PM
SportsAndLady;1824269 wrote:Stfu. It's one game. They don't do the rankings based only on head to head. Open your eyes.
Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Sure they beat them but they're not better"
Nov 13, 2016 3:39pm
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Nov 13, 2016 4:06 PM
SportsAndLady;1824269 wrote:Stfu. It's one game. They don't do the rankings based only on head to head. Open your eyes.
It should be the primary basis of everything else is even
Nov 13, 2016 4:06pm
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Nov 13, 2016 4:06 PM
Classyposter58;1824258 wrote:Michigans loss IMO was way worse than Washingtons. A 5-4 Iowa team held you to 201 yards of offense? USC is a top 10 with Darnold at QB and has looked awesome since making the switch
Way worse lol. Washington lost by 13 at home to a team with 3 losses. The whole season counts...period.

You ignoring the 3 top 11 wins by Michigan whereas Washington has 0?
Nov 13, 2016 4:06pm
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Nov 13, 2016 4:11 PM
Ironman92;1824292 wrote:Way worse lol. Washington lost by 13 at home to a team with 3 losses. The whole season counts...period.

You ignoring the 3 top 11 wins by Michigan whereas Washington has 0?
I don't agree with this at all. OSU in the title year looked awful with Barrett, but improved to become college footballs best. USC will probably run the table and get a Rose Bowl berth at 10-3. You have to take into account how teams like Penn State, LSU and USC had an immediate improvement from a certain point
Nov 13, 2016 4:11pm
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Nov 13, 2016 4:20 PM
Classyposter58;1824282 wrote:Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Sure they beat them but they're not better"
Do you think Iowa should be ahead of Michigan in the polls this week?
Nov 13, 2016 4:20pm
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Nov 13, 2016 4:21 PM
Classyposter58;1824294 wrote:I don't agree with this at all. OSU in the title year looked awful with Barrett, but improved to become college footballs best. USC will probably run the table and get a Rose Bowl berth at 10-3. You have to take into account how teams like Penn State, LSU and USC had an immediate improvement from a certain point
No you don't. The whole idea for college football is body of work. It's exciting because every game is supposed to count for something.
Nov 13, 2016 4:21pm
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Nov 13, 2016 4:21 PM
SportsAndLady;1824296 wrote:Do you think Iowa should be ahead of Michigan in the polls this week?
And Penn State ahead of OSU?

And Pitt ahead of Clemson?
Nov 13, 2016 4:21pm
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Nov 13, 2016 4:39 PM
I can't see the winner of OSU v UM not in the playoffs. (baring a loss in the title game if PSU is not there)
Nov 13, 2016 4:39pm
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Nov 13, 2016 5:25 PM
SportsAndLady;1824263 wrote:Wisconsin ahead of Washington is funny lol
Based on it not being deserved or because you don't believe they could beat the Huskies? Based on the admittedly too small sample size of last night, Washington wouldn't piss a drop against Bucky.
Nov 13, 2016 5:25pm