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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Jun 12, 2016 8:28am
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/florida-authorities-say-multiple-people-have-been-shot-at-orlando-nightclub.html
At least 20 dead. Possible Terrorism. Apparently at a Gay club.
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At least 20 dead. Possible Terrorism. Apparently at a Gay club.
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salto
Posts: 2,611
Jun 12, 2016 9:29am
Wonder if somehow related to the Christina Grimmie shooting.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jun 12, 2016 9:40am
shooting up the gheys???? doesnt seem like usual terrorist target.
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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Jun 12, 2016 9:43am
Omar Mateen identified as shooter. Possible links to being influenced by Radical Islam. American Citizen born in New York.
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salto
Posts: 2,611
Jun 12, 2016 9:56am
http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/omar-mateen-pulse-orlando-florida-shooting-gunman-attack-name-photos-facebook-motive-terrorism/
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Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jun 12, 2016 10:22am
50 dead, 53 injured
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jun 12, 2016 10:46am
Worst mass shooting in US history.
I sure hope people do not rush to judgement.
This will take time to filter the data and figure out the how and why.
I sure hope people do not rush to judgement.
This will take time to filter the data and figure out the how and why.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jun 12, 2016 11:08am
Muslim,
CNN said family from Afghanistan.
CNN said family from Afghanistan.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2016 11:12am
How-with an assault rifleptown_trojans_1;1798849 wrote:Worst mass shooting in US history.
I sure hope people do not rush to judgement.
This will take time to filter the data and figure out the how and why.
Why- radical Islam
Didn't take any time at all
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jun 12, 2016 11:17am
news media will push gun control narrative.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jun 12, 2016 11:26am
Are you sure it was purely radical Islam, or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam? Did he know someone at the club? What set him off? Why did he chose this place?SportsAndLady;1798851 wrote:How-with an assault rifle
Why- radical Islam
Didn't take any time at all
If it was radical Islam, why did he talk to the SWAT team, or why did it take so long for the situation to end?
Jumping to conclusions is short sited and may miss the entire rational. Do not assume anything.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2016 12:22pm
I was hoping this wouldn't turn into a political discussion for at least 48 hours, because I agree let's see the facts. However, I was wondering what would happen first. The radical Islamists apologists come out, or the gun control advocates come out? Once we officially move on from the shock of this tragic event, I can already tell where ptown is leaning and its not even surprising.
GoPens
Posts: 2,339
Jun 12, 2016 12:34pm
For what it's worth, the father of the shooter said it wasn't his religion, but he hated gays. We'll see but I agree, let time sort it out.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 12, 2016 1:02pm
no guns for MuslimsSpock;1798852 wrote:news media will push gun control narrative.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jun 12, 2016 1:15pm
Aren't these one in the same? I'm fairly certain they kill gays over in the desert.ptown_trojans_1;1798853 wrote:Are you sure it was purely radical Islam, or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam?
Not making a rush to judgment on this guy, could be a crazy Christian or whatever else as well.
Crazy though. Will be interesting to learn more details in the day to come. Terrible tragedy for all involved and families affected.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 12, 2016 1:50pm
that would be a distinction without a differenceptown_trojans_1;1798853 wrote:...or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam?
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 12, 2016 2:04pm
well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...like_that;1798854 wrote:I was hoping this wouldn't turn into a political discussion for at least 48 hours,
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2016 2:07pm
Is Obama retarded?gut;1798859 wrote:well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...
Does he actually think this wouldn't have happened if guns were illegal?
Cocaine is illegal, but if I wanted to get some, it would take me about 15 min.
Edit: also think it's funny Obama never mentions Isis, radical islam, etc. but plenty of gay, gun control, etc.
Get him the hell out of there
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2016 2:31pm
gut;1798859 wrote:well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...
Par for the course.SportsAndLady;1798860 wrote:Is Obama retarded?
Does he actually think this wouldn't have happened if guns were illegal?
Cocaine is illegal, but if I wanted to get some, it would take me about 15 min.
Edit: also think it's funny Obama never mentions Isis, radical islam, etc. but plenty of gay, gun control, etc.
Get him the hell out of there
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Jun 12, 2016 2:35pm
Let's guess the response...
"This is not Islam".
Well youknow what, it looks like a huge chunk of adherrant believe it is. Splitting hairs between whether or not this is a religious thing or an anti gay thing is pointless. This is a religion that preaches hate and death. It has no part of American life. Make no mistake, this is a war with the hate cult that's Islam. Subhuman zealots.
"This is not Islam".
Well youknow what, it looks like a huge chunk of adherrant believe it is. Splitting hairs between whether or not this is a religious thing or an anti gay thing is pointless. This is a religion that preaches hate and death. It has no part of American life. Make no mistake, this is a war with the hate cult that's Islam. Subhuman zealots.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2016 2:39pm
Killer was yelling Allah Akbhar and on a 911 call pledged his allegiance to ISIS. But let's not let facts get in the way of political correctness!Dr Winston O'Boogie;1798864 wrote:Let's guess the response...
"This is not Islam".
Well youknow what, it looks like a huge chunk of adherrant believe it is. Splitting hairs between whether or not this is a religious thing or an anti gay thing is pointless. This is a religion that preaches hate and death. It has no part of American life. Make no mistake, this is a war with the hate cult that's Islam. Subhuman zealots.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2016 2:49pm
Did he really? Link?SportsAndLady;1798866 wrote:Killer was yelling Allah Akbhar and on a 911 call pledged his allegiance to ISIS. But let's not let facts get in the way of political correctness!
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Sonofanump
Jun 12, 2016 2:50pm
I don't recall an anti-gay suicide/byproxy killing before. Seems odd that it would not be religious.GoPens;1798855 wrote:For what it's worth, the father of the shooter said it wasn't his religion, but he hated gays. We'll see but I agree, let time sort it out.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jun 12, 2016 2:54pm
A lot more coming out. This guy was known by the FBI as an ISIS sympathizer. His father also had ties to supporting the afghani taliban.
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2016 3:05pm
It was reported on Fox News earlier today, and I'm seeing a lot of people tweeting about it. Guess it's not been 100% confirmed though.like_that;1798868 wrote:Did he really? Link?