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BRF

Posts: 8,748

Apr 26, 2016 11:06pm

And he did.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Apr 26, 2016 11:08pm

Someone needs to write a book on the phenomenon of bullpen pitchers just losing it.

HitsRus

Posts: 9,206

Apr 27, 2016 7:26am

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Apr 27, 2016 7:32am

Laley23;1793493 wrote:Someone needs to write a book on the phenomenon of the Indians' bullpen pitchers just losing it.

fify

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Apr 27, 2016 9:04am

vball10set;1793506 wrote:fify

Its not just the tribe. Relievers all over MLB just lose it after years of dominance

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Apr 27, 2016 9:58am

Laley23;1793511 wrote:Its not just the tribe. Relievers all over MLB just lose it after years of dominance

I get what you're saying, but I only care about the Indians' woes--and Allen's in particular.

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Apr 27, 2016 10:00am

Laley23;1793476 wrote:I blame Heretic, who came to Cody Andersons defense before the season when I said he was terrible. Lol

smartest thing you've said in a while...btw, saw Roni Pinciotti over the weekend--she said to say hello

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Apr 27, 2016 10:43am

Laley23;1793493 wrote:Someone needs to write a book on the phenomenon of bullpen pitchers just losing it.

This has been a bad year for formerly solid relievers. For you, both Shaw and Allen have been terrible; for the Reds, their entire pen has been a big joke and for the Pirates, Watson has been more vulnerable and Melancon tried to give away Sunday's game but Arizona's bullpen was just as bad down the stretch.

BRF

Posts: 8,748

Apr 27, 2016 12:10pm

Overpaid pitchers who aren't good enough to be starters.

iclfan2

Posts: 6,360

Apr 27, 2016 4:41pm

Cody Anderson sent to minors. Will pitch with a 4-man rotation for next 10 days due to off days. Then they will need to make a move. Clevinger?

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Crimson streak

Posts: 9,002

Apr 27, 2016 5:13pm

iclfan2;1793633 wrote:Cody Anderson sent to minors. Will pitch with a 4-man rotation for next 10 days due to off days. Then they will need to make a move. Clevinger?

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1 can only hope bc Anderson blows

HitsRus

Posts: 9,206

Apr 27, 2016 6:38pm

Kyle Crockett recalled... Will take Anderson's roster spot .

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Apr 27, 2016 9:23pm

I said it before and I'll say it again...Tomlin is NOT a starter. Period.

BRF

Posts: 8,748

Apr 27, 2016 10:24pm

Big rally going on in the 5th!

HitsRus

Posts: 9,206

Apr 27, 2016 10:32pm

After a rocky first inning, Tomlin has settled down nicely ... Tribe leads 6-3 in the 5th.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Apr 27, 2016 10:59pm

vball10set;1793666 wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again...Tomlin is NOT a starter. Period.

I respectfully disagree.

Crimson streak

Posts: 9,002

Apr 28, 2016 7:08am

Laley23;1793697 wrote:I respectfully disagree.

I'm with you on that. Tomlin is a great 5th starter

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Apr 28, 2016 7:22am

Laley23;1793697 wrote:I respectfully disagree.

your prerogative...and no response to my Pinciotti 'hello'?

Crimson streak;1793707 wrote:I'm with you on that. Tomlin is a great 5th starter

great??? lol

Crimson streak

Posts: 9,002

Apr 28, 2016 9:51am

vball10set;1793710 wrote:your prerogative...and no response to my Pinciotti 'hello'?

great??? lol

As a 5th starter he is one of the better ones in the league. He might not have the best stuff but he keeps you in games which is what you want with your 5th starter. He will have an era around 4 which is excellent as a 5th starter

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Apr 28, 2016 10:12am

vball10set;1793710 wrote:no response to my Pinciotti 'hello'?
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You can tell her hello from me, but I worked there for 4 years and probably saw her like 40 times total. She probably knew me by the end, but I had many interactions where I was called 1 of 4 names, none of which were mine lol. I wasnt an office person. I went to my event, directed it, and went home. Only times I really saw here were when I had to go to office for something, or a random Directors Meeting she would pop in for.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Apr 28, 2016 10:13am

Crimson streak;1793730 wrote:As a 5th starter he is one of the better ones in the league. He might not have the best stuff but he keeps you in games which is what you want with your 5th starter. He will have an era around 4 which is excellent as a 5th starter

This, and I think he end up with an ERA under 4 (not saying you arent saying that).

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Apr 29, 2016 7:52am

Crimson streak;1793730 wrote:As a 5th starter he is one of the better ones in the league. He might not have the best stuff but he keeps you in games which is what you want with your 5th starter. He will have an era around 4 which is excellent as a 5th starter

like your optimism, and hope you're right...not holding my breath though

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Apr 29, 2016 9:29am

vball10set;1794018 wrote:like your optimism, and hope you're right...not holding my breath though

Since his return from injury last star (about half a season), he is:

10-2
3.05 ERA (estimate, 3.03 last year 3.18 this year)
68 Ks
10 BBs
Whip under 1.00

Now the advanced stats say he is a little lucky, but still good and effective. If he can do this till the ASG, that's a seasons with of starts, and I'd be comfortable saying that is pretty close to who he is.