sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 1:28pm
Okay.Con_Alma;1793578 wrote:You need not defend that to me. I haven't suggested it's a bad thing...only that it's not nearly enough.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 27, 2016 1:55pm
sleeper;1793546 wrote:Lowering emissions as much as possible to help mitigate the projected increased radiation from the sun.
You may be well suited for Denmark; they want to tax red meat to thwart climate change.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/04/27/denmark-considers-tax-on-beef-other-red-meats-to-combat-climate-change/?intcmp=hpff
Honestly, it's as though we are living in the twilight zone right now.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 27, 2016 2:05pm
Simply laughable; as though it would have any effect whatsoever. Similar to removing one grain of sand from an ant hill and hoping for change, all while demolishing the economy. Brilliant.sleeper;1793546 wrote:Lowering emissions as much as possible to help mitigate the projected increased radiation from the sun.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 2:07pm
Taxes that help account for the negative externality of a product's true cost is beneficial to society.QuakerOats;1793587 wrote:You may be well suited for Denmark; they want to tax red meat to thwart climate change.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/04/27/denmark-considers-tax-on-beef-other-red-meats-to-combat-climate-change/?intcmp=hpff
Honestly, it's as though we are living in the twilight zone right now.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 2:09pm
1 grain of sand = 16% of global greenhouse gas emissions.QuakerOats;1793590 wrote:Simply laughable; as though it would have any effect whatsoever. Similar to removing one grain of sand from an ant hill and hoping for change, all while demolishing the economy. Brilliant.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 27, 2016 2:24pm
Mind numbing
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 2:28pm
Only mind numbing if you don't understand economics or climate science.QuakerOats;1793599 wrote:Mind numbing
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 27, 2016 2:37pm
Thousands of otherwise seemingly intelligent people fall for fraudsters and scammers every day. That's why they remain in business.
God bless.
God bless.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 2:42pm
You mean like Big Oil and their lobbyists who constantly assure us that everything is okay?QuakerOats;1793605 wrote:Thousands of otherwise seemingly intelligent people fall for fraudsters and scammers every day. That's why they remain in business.
God bless.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 27, 2016 3:18pm
Yes, they have totally altered solar irradiance and the solar system shall never be the same, much less Earth. They should be held accountable by trial lawyers and other BIG government-loving liberal bureaucrats, not to mention the UN. I assume Al Gore will be begin his private jet fuel boycott any day now.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 3:24pm
Delusional.QuakerOats;1793612 wrote:Yes, they have totally altered solar irradiance and the solar system shall never be the same, much less Earth. They should be held accountable by trial lawyers and other BIG government-loving liberal bureaucrats, not to mention the UN. I assume Al Gore will be begin his private jet fuel boycott any day now.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 27, 2016 3:53pm
I figured that was coming.
So getting back on topic, you lost your original religion to Earth worship; is that what you are trying to say?
So getting back on topic, you lost your original religion to Earth worship; is that what you are trying to say?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 4:10pm
I look at facts and evidence from multiple sources and make determinations based on that.QuakerOats;1793621 wrote:I figured that was coming.
So getting back on topic, you lost your original religion to Earth worship; is that what you are trying to say?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Apr 27, 2016 4:18pm
But did you live inside a whale?
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Apr 27, 2016 4:23pm
Not at all. Again, if we DO indeed do our part, we buy time. Time is a good thing. Just not the solution.sleeper;1793556 wrote:That is what you are effectively saying hence my analogy about the neighbor. Continue to be dense though!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 4:38pm
No shit dude. I'm not expecting to solve human induced climate change over night but it'd be nice if the US lead the charge instead of sitting with our thumb up our butt and blaming China and India's inaction.O-Trap;1793626 wrote:Not at all. Again, if we DO indeed do our part, we buy time. Time is a good thing. Just not the solution.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 27, 2016 4:48pm
Makes more sense to "worship" an actual thing that we all live upon than a nebulous concept based around folklore and tall tales.QuakerOats;1793621 wrote:I figured that was coming.
So getting back on topic, you lost your original religion to Earth worship; is that what you are trying to say?
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Apr 27, 2016 4:52pm
No disagreement there. Never was. However, I do think we should at least focus some time and attention to it.sleeper;1793629 wrote:No shit dude. I'm not expecting to solve human induced climate change over night but it'd be nice if the US lead the charge instead of sitting with our thumb up our butt and blaming China and India's inaction.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 27, 2016 5:07pm
Good, because it is hard to solve something that doesn't exist.sleeper;1793629 wrote:No shit dude. I'm not expecting to solve human induced climate change over night
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 27, 2016 5:08pm
Heretic;1793635 wrote:Makes more sense to "worship" an actual thing that we all live upon than a nebulous concept based around folklore and tall tales.
To each his own.
Take care.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 5:12pm
The overwhelming amount of data and climate scientists disagree with you.QuakerOats;1793641 wrote:Good, because it is hard to solve something that doesn't exist.
And yes I'm ignoring the painfully obvious irony of religious belief and this statement.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 27, 2016 7:22pm
I haven't seen anyone blaming China and India's inaction. I may have missed that somewhere.sleeper;1793629 wrote:No shit dude. I'm not expecting to solve human induced climate change over night but it'd be nice if the US lead the charge instead of sitting with our thumb up our butt and blaming China and India's inaction.
A global solution is need for a global problem. If the U.S. wants to "lead" they should consider gaining a global consensus to address the concerns...otherwise they are just a country who is acting autonomously and "hoping" others jump on board.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 8:14pm
Leaders lead. The US can lead the initiative by example.Con_Alma;1793656 wrote:I haven't seen anyone blaming China and India's inaction. I may have missed that somewhere.
A global solution is need for a global problem. If the U.S. wants to "lead" they should consider gaining a global consensus to address the concerns...otherwise they are just a country who is acting autonomously and "hoping" others jump on board.
Or I guess we can just sit on our hands and go "Welp, planet is warming, future generations are doomed, where's my Mai Tai"? Boomers are the worst.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 27, 2016 8:18pm
1. Once again....I haven't stated we should "sit on our hands".
2. I'm not a boomer.
2. I'm not a boomer.
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kayo
Posts: 126
Apr 27, 2016 10:58pm
Can't believe no one has yet championed prosecuting people or companies that don't toe the line on climate change...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/17/democratic-ags-climate-change-groups-colluded-on-p/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/17/democratic-ags-climate-change-groups-colluded-on-p/