Archive Execution By Firing Squad

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Con_Alma

Posts: 12,198

Mar 30, 2016 2:38pm

Looks like Mississippi is ready to go back to execution by firing squad if the lethal injection drugs are too expensive of unavailable.

After reading the article it would appear that opponents of State execution are trying to make such acts as gruesome as possible so that the public will rethink the decision of supporting such State activities.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/433453/mississippis-executions-firing-squad-are-right-choice-wrong-remedy

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queencitybuckeye

Posts: 7,117

Mar 30, 2016 2:50pm

While I am "agnostic" in terms of capital punishment (I don't believe in its deterrent effect but no longer having to share oxygen with most of them doesn't cause me to lose sleep), a firing squad done properly is no less humane than drugs, sparky, or the noose.

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Con_Alma

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Mar 30, 2016 2:54pm

I've never really viewed it as a deterrent but if that is a "side effect" then we are all better off. I've always viewed it as a punishment to the offender.

I would think a firing squad would certainly be more be more humane than the electric chair or a hanging. A hanging would seem to be the worst!

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Mar 30, 2016 3:04pm

We just need to go back to the good ol' days where we just burned people at the stake!

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queencitybuckeye

Posts: 7,117

Mar 30, 2016 3:04pm

Con_Alma;1789591 wrote:I've never really viewed it as a deterrent but if that is a "side effect" then we are all better off. I've always viewed it as a punishment to the offender.

Until the laws and procedures are drastically changed, my understanding is that it costs less for a life/no parole sentence than the death penalty. Personally, the incremental cost isn't worth it without something other that punitive effect.

I would think a firing squad would certainly be more be more humane than the electric chair or a hanging. A hanging would seem to be the worst!

Possibly, I think the firing squad would have the least chance of "catastrophic failure".

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queencitybuckeye

Posts: 7,117

Mar 30, 2016 3:05pm

Heretic;1789595 wrote:We just need to go back to the good ol' days where we just burned people at the stake!

Joan of Arc's famous last words

"No, BUD Light!"

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Con_Alma

Posts: 12,198

Mar 30, 2016 4:14pm

queencitybuckeye;1789596 wrote:Until the laws and procedures are drastically changed, my understanding is that it costs less for a life/no parole sentence than the death penalty. Personally, the incremental cost isn't worth it without something other that punitive effect.

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If the people want a death penalty in their State and a judge sentences such a penalty, I don't think the cost compared to life in prison really comes into play. If the people want this it makes sense for the State to seek a less expensive solution to carry out their obligation.

Belly35

Posts: 9,716

Mar 30, 2016 4:19pm

I'm good with .... Lock n Load

ptown_trojans_1

Posts: 7,632

Mar 30, 2016 4:25pm

I prefer old sparky, but hey I wouldn't oppose a firing squad.
I grew up near SOCF, so I understand and support the application of the death penalty.

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Wolves of Babylon

Posts: 408

Mar 30, 2016 5:22pm

I'm not sure I could do that job no matter what my thoughts on the death penalty are. I know they try to make it so you don't know if you were the kill shot necessarily but just aiming my gun to kill another human being outside of self defense would be difficult for me.

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Wolves of Babylon

Posts: 408

Mar 30, 2016 5:24pm

queencitybuckeye;1789590 wrote:While I am "agnostic" in terms of capital punishment (I don't believe in its deterrent effect but no longer having to share oxygen with most of them doesn't cause me to lose sleep), a firing squad done properly is no less humane than drugs, sparky, or the noose.

This is my stance as well.

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sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Mar 30, 2016 5:31pm

I'd prefer no capital punishment. Jail for 100+ years or whatever is enough of a punishment and enough of a deterrent.

HitsRus

Posts: 9,206

Mar 30, 2016 6:05pm

I don't understand the need for certain "lethal injection drugs". Anybody who has undergone general anesthesia knows that they can put you under like flicking a switch, and that it's done thousands of times a day at every hospital in the world. I don't get the inhumane part of not letting you wake up.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Mar 30, 2016 6:27pm

sleeper;1789639 wrote:I'd prefer no capital punishment. Jail for 100+ years or whatever is enough of a punishment and enough of a deterrent.

I'd prefer not to have my tax dollars go to them.

GOONx19

Posts: 7,147

Mar 30, 2016 10:35pm

HitsRus;1789648 wrote:I don't understand the need for certain "lethal injection drugs". Anybody who has undergone general anesthesia knows that they can put you under like flicking a switch, and that it's done thousands of times a day at every hospital in the world. I don't get the inhumane part of not letting you wake up.

I can think of about 20 doses and/or combinations right now that would kill someone without any suffering in no time at all. The most effective in my opinion would be 2 drugs that cost $43 combined per dose.

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Mar 31, 2016 8:41am

GOONx19;1789659 wrote:I can think of about 20 doses and/or combinations right now that would kill someone without any suffering in no time at all. The most effective in my opinion would be 2 drugs that cost $43 combined per dose.

Give me the petition to sign.

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Mar 31, 2016 9:48am

like_that;1789650 wrote:I'd prefer not to have my tax dollars go to them.

More go to them if sentenced to death.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Mar 31, 2016 9:54am

I support capital punishment in principle, but I don't think it's a good idea in practice. Too many stories of wrongful convictions being overturned years or decades later. You can release someone from prison, you can't un-kill them.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Mar 31, 2016 10:21am

sleeper;1789679 wrote:More go to them if sentenced to death.

I must be missing something that I don't know. How does more go to them?

Mulva;1789681 wrote:I support capital punishment in principle, but I don't think it's a good idea in practice. Too many stories of wrongful convictions being overturned years or decades later. You can release someone from prison, you can't un-kill them.

I agree here. I think the evidence needs to be 100% on point for the death penalty to be an option.

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Mar 31, 2016 12:43pm

like_that;1789696 wrote:I must be missing something that I don't know. How does more go to them?

I agree here. I think the evidence needs to be 100% on point for the death penalty to be an option.

Costs more overall to execute someone than to house them in prison. The only exception to this is if the convicted person decides not to appeal; which doesn't happen very often.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Mar 31, 2016 1:38pm

sleeper;1789730 wrote:Costs more overall to execute someone than to house them in prison. The only exception to this is if the convicted person decides not to appeal; which doesn't happen very often.

Link?

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Mar 31, 2016 2:31pm

like_that;1789750 wrote:Link?

http://deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

Or try google if you don't like the bias. It's not exactly a hidden fact.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Mar 31, 2016 2:56pm

sleeper;1789761 wrote:http://deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

Or try google if you don't like the bias. It's not exactly a hidden fact.

It's all new info to me. Never really figured keeping someone alive would cost less than killing somebody off.

rrfan

Posts: 1,922

Mar 31, 2016 3:12pm

GOONx19;1789659 wrote:I can think of about 20 doses and/or combinations right now that would kill someone without any suffering in no time at all. The most effective in my opinion would be 2 drugs that cost $43 combined per dose.

I will sign that petition also.

fish82

Posts: 4,111

Apr 1, 2016 2:47pm

If I were facing execution, I'd totally pick firing squad.