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Con_Alma

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Looks like Mississippi is ready to go back to execution by firing squad if the lethal injection drugs are too expensive of unavailable.

After reading the article it would appear that opponents of State execution are trying to make such acts as gruesome as possible so that the public will rethink the decision of supporting such State activities.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/433453/mississippis-executions-firing-squad-are-right-choice-wrong-remedy
Mar 30, 2016 2:38pm
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While I am "agnostic" in terms of capital punishment (I don't believe in its deterrent effect but no longer having to share oxygen with most of them doesn't cause me to lose sleep), a firing squad done properly is no less humane than drugs, sparky, or the noose.
Mar 30, 2016 2:50pm
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I've never really viewed it as a deterrent but if that is a "side effect" then we are all better off. I've always viewed it as a punishment to the offender.

I would think a firing squad would certainly be more be more humane than the electric chair or a hanging. A hanging would seem to be the worst!
Mar 30, 2016 2:54pm
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We just need to go back to the good ol' days where we just burned people at the stake!
Mar 30, 2016 3:04pm
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Con_Alma;1789591 wrote:I've never really viewed it as a deterrent but if that is a "side effect" then we are all better off. I've always viewed it as a punishment to the offender.
Until the laws and procedures are drastically changed, my understanding is that it costs less for a life/no parole sentence than the death penalty. Personally, the incremental cost isn't worth it without something other that punitive effect.
I would think a firing squad would certainly be more be more humane than the electric chair or a hanging. A hanging would seem to be the worst!
Possibly, I think the firing squad would have the least chance of "catastrophic failure".
Mar 30, 2016 3:04pm
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Heretic;1789595 wrote:We just need to go back to the good ol' days where we just burned people at the stake!
Joan of Arc's famous last words

"No, BUD Light!"
Mar 30, 2016 3:05pm
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queencitybuckeye;1789596 wrote:Until the laws and procedures are drastically changed, my understanding is that it costs less for a life/no parole sentence than the death penalty. Personally, the incremental cost isn't worth it without something other that punitive effect.



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If the people want a death penalty in their State and a judge sentences such a penalty, I don't think the cost compared to life in prison really comes into play. If the people want this it makes sense for the State to seek a less expensive solution to carry out their obligation.
Mar 30, 2016 4:14pm
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I'm good with .... Lock n Load
Mar 30, 2016 4:19pm
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I prefer old sparky, but hey I wouldn't oppose a firing squad.
I grew up near SOCF, so I understand and support the application of the death penalty.
Mar 30, 2016 4:25pm
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I'm not sure I could do that job no matter what my thoughts on the death penalty are. I know they try to make it so you don't know if you were the kill shot necessarily but just aiming my gun to kill another human being outside of self defense would be difficult for me.

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Mar 30, 2016 5:22pm
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queencitybuckeye;1789590 wrote:While I am "agnostic" in terms of capital punishment (I don't believe in its deterrent effect but no longer having to share oxygen with most of them doesn't cause me to lose sleep), a firing squad done properly is no less humane than drugs, sparky, or the noose.
This is my stance as well.

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Mar 30, 2016 5:24pm
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I'd prefer no capital punishment. Jail for 100+ years or whatever is enough of a punishment and enough of a deterrent.
Mar 30, 2016 5:31pm
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I don't understand the need for certain "lethal injection drugs". Anybody who has undergone general anesthesia knows that they can put you under like flicking a switch, and that it's done thousands of times a day at every hospital in the world. I don't get the inhumane part of not letting you wake up.
Mar 30, 2016 6:05pm
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sleeper;1789639 wrote:I'd prefer no capital punishment. Jail for 100+ years or whatever is enough of a punishment and enough of a deterrent.
I'd prefer not to have my tax dollars go to them.
Mar 30, 2016 6:27pm
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HitsRus;1789648 wrote:I don't understand the need for certain "lethal injection drugs". Anybody who has undergone general anesthesia knows that they can put you under like flicking a switch, and that it's done thousands of times a day at every hospital in the world. I don't get the inhumane part of not letting you wake up.
I can think of about 20 doses and/or combinations right now that would kill someone without any suffering in no time at all. The most effective in my opinion would be 2 drugs that cost $43 combined per dose.
Mar 30, 2016 10:35pm
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GOONx19;1789659 wrote:I can think of about 20 doses and/or combinations right now that would kill someone without any suffering in no time at all. The most effective in my opinion would be 2 drugs that cost $43 combined per dose.
Give me the petition to sign.
Mar 31, 2016 8:41am
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like_that;1789650 wrote:I'd prefer not to have my tax dollars go to them.
More go to them if sentenced to death.
Mar 31, 2016 9:48am
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I support capital punishment in principle, but I don't think it's a good idea in practice. Too many stories of wrongful convictions being overturned years or decades later. You can release someone from prison, you can't un-kill them.
Mar 31, 2016 9:54am
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sleeper;1789679 wrote:More go to them if sentenced to death.
I must be missing something that I don't know. How does more go to them?

Mulva;1789681 wrote:I support capital punishment in principle, but I don't think it's a good idea in practice. Too many stories of wrongful convictions being overturned years or decades later. You can release someone from prison, you can't un-kill them.
I agree here. I think the evidence needs to be 100% on point for the death penalty to be an option.
Mar 31, 2016 10:21am
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like_that;1789696 wrote:I must be missing something that I don't know. How does more go to them?



I agree here. I think the evidence needs to be 100% on point for the death penalty to be an option.
Costs more overall to execute someone than to house them in prison. The only exception to this is if the convicted person decides not to appeal; which doesn't happen very often.
Mar 31, 2016 12:43pm
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sleeper;1789730 wrote:Costs more overall to execute someone than to house them in prison. The only exception to this is if the convicted person decides not to appeal; which doesn't happen very often.
Link?
Mar 31, 2016 1:38pm
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like_that;1789750 wrote:Link?
http://deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

Or try google if you don't like the bias. It's not exactly a hidden fact.
Mar 31, 2016 2:31pm
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sleeper;1789761 wrote:http://deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

Or try google if you don't like the bias. It's not exactly a hidden fact.
It's all new info to me. Never really figured keeping someone alive would cost less than killing somebody off.
Mar 31, 2016 2:56pm
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GOONx19;1789659 wrote:I can think of about 20 doses and/or combinations right now that would kill someone without any suffering in no time at all. The most effective in my opinion would be 2 drugs that cost $43 combined per dose.
I will sign that petition also.
Mar 31, 2016 3:12pm
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If I were facing execution, I'd totally pick firing squad.
Apr 1, 2016 2:47pm