Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Feb 10, 2016 2:53pm
Dems have a traitor and a socialist running for President of the United States of American (think about that) any VP candidate would be a joke also.
The Republican not much better in the potential candidate for President… but this is what the present political partiessystem and the career politicians has created. "can we say term limits"
However a strong potential candidate for VP is emerging if not for the top job as President.
Would a Trump/ Kasich
Cruz / Kasich
Rubio / Kasich
Kasich a good VP for any of the Republican Presidential Candidates or Should the tables be turned?
The Republican not much better in the potential candidate for President… but this is what the present political partiessystem and the career politicians has created. "can we say term limits"
However a strong potential candidate for VP is emerging if not for the top job as President.
Would a Trump/ Kasich
Cruz / Kasich
Rubio / Kasich
Kasich a good VP for any of the Republican Presidential Candidates or Should the tables be turned?
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Feb 10, 2016 3:05pm
I'm not sure he has an interest in VP. I think he'd rather be governor than VP.Belly35;1780833 wrote:Dems have a traitor and a socialist running for President of the United States of American (think about that) any VP candidate would be a joke also.
The Republican not much better in the potential candidate for President… but this is what the present political partiessystem and the career politicians has created. "can we say term limits"
However a strong potential candidate for VP is emerging if not for the top job as President.
Would a Trump/ Kasich
Cruz / Kasich
Rubio / Kasich
Kasich a good VP for any of the Republican Presidential Candidates or Should the tables be turned?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 10, 2016 3:37pm
I'd rather Kasich run for President rather than VP. However, I think he is a top VP candidate because Ohio.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Feb 19, 2016 4:15pm
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4764754790001/man-hugged-by-kasich-on-the-campaign-trail-speaks-out/?intcmp=hphz01#sp=show-clips
pretty good stuff ...............and not something I have not personally seen him do before.
pretty good stuff ...............and not something I have not personally seen him do before.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Feb 19, 2016 5:02pm
His CNN speech last night was pretty sweet. He will be surging soon. I see him finishing in the top 3.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 19, 2016 5:04pm
I think I agree with you. I don't see him taking the VP offer of any of the other front runners except maybe Rubio.Al Bundy;1780839 wrote:I'm not sure he has an interest in VP. I think he'd rather be governor than VP.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Feb 19, 2016 5:09pm
the pubs would win easily if they had a rubio/kasich ticket. You get Ohio and florida easily
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 19, 2016 5:35pm
Easily? Did you see the last election?Spock;1782380 wrote:the pubs would win easily if they had a rubio/kasich ticket. You get Ohio and florida easily
Obama would have stomped Romney without Ohio or Florida. I don't think Kasich/Rubio automatically guarantees Ohio or Florida; they are swing states for a reason.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Feb 19, 2016 9:19pm
well first of all, that ticket is not running against Obama, secondly Kasich and Rubio are very popular.sleeper;1782383 wrote:Easily? Did you see the last election?
Obama would have stomped Romney without Ohio or Florida. I don't think Kasich/Rubio automatically guarantees Ohio or Florida; they are swing states for a reason.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 19, 2016 11:50pm
Obama only won 2 more states and less than 5k of the popular vote. Hardly a stomping.sleeper;1782383 wrote:Easily? Did you see the last election?
Obama would have stomped Romney without Ohio or Florida. I don't think Kasich/Rubio automatically guarantees Ohio or Florida; they are swing states for a reason.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 20, 2016 2:41pm
332 - 206like_that;1782421 wrote:Obama only won 2 more states and less than 5k of the popular vote. Hardly a stomping.
That is a stomp dude.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 20, 2016 5:22pm
Hot take sleeper is hot take sleeper.sleeper;1782452 wrote:332 - 206
That is a stomp dude.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Feb 20, 2016 5:37pm
Popular enough to swing over not just Ohio and Florida, but Colorado, VA, and NM? I'm not too sure.Spock;1782409 wrote:well first of all, that ticket is not running against Obama, secondly Kasich and Rubio are very popular.
5k? Look again.like_that;1782421 wrote:Obama only won 2 more states and less than 5k of the popular vote. Hardly a stomping.
It was 62.6 Million to 59.1 Million, that's more than 3 Million. It was larger than 2004 and 2000, but not as large as 2008. It was a stomping in recent terms. Don't sugar coat it.
But, I would be behind a Rubio/ Kasich ticket, so long as the advisers are not necons and early W Bush years retreads.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Feb 20, 2016 6:39pm
Even with Ohio and Florida, Romney needed at least two more states. Not sure how you quantify a "stomping" when the popular vote is a 3% difference, but it was decisive.
And I think Obama won that election with big data and the ground game to work the data. Romney may not have run a good campaign, especially with getting the vote out, but Obama squeezed out just about every vote he could. Mechanically speaking, Obama ran one hell of a campaign.
And I think Obama won that election with big data and the ground game to work the data. Romney may not have run a good campaign, especially with getting the vote out, but Obama squeezed out just about every vote he could. Mechanically speaking, Obama ran one hell of a campaign.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Feb 20, 2016 9:06pm
Yeah, sure. I'll just say Obama won in 2012 more than W did in 2000 and 2004.
Anyone who thinks it was close, is not looking at the numbers.
Anyone who thinks it was close, is not looking at the numbers.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 20, 2016 9:08pm
You're right. I stand corrected.ptown_trojans_1;1782457 wrote:Popular enough to swing over not just Ohio and Florida, but Colorado, VA, and NM? I'm not too sure.
5k? Look again.
It was 62.6 Million to 59.1 Million, that's more than 3 Million. It was larger than 2004 and 2000, but not as large as 2008. It was a stomping in recent terms. Don't sugar coat it.
But, I would be behind a Rubio/ Kasich ticket, so long as the advisers are not necons and early W Bush years retreads.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Feb 24, 2016 10:00am
Y-town Vindicator
Published: Wed, February 24, 2016 @ 8:56 a.m.
COLUMBUS
Gov. John Kasich would top both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders among Ohio voters, according to a new Quinnipiac University Poll released Wednesday.
The Republican governor had double-digit leads over both Democratic candidates and performed better than any other GOP contender among likely Ohio voters.
Kasich topped Clinton, 54 percent-37 percent, and Sanders, 54 percent-35 percent.
- See more at: http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/feb/24/poll-shows-kasich-would-do-better-clinton-and-sand/#sthash.uDhoLKqk.dpuf
Published: Wed, February 24, 2016 @ 8:56 a.m.
COLUMBUS
Gov. John Kasich would top both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders among Ohio voters, according to a new Quinnipiac University Poll released Wednesday.
The Republican governor had double-digit leads over both Democratic candidates and performed better than any other GOP contender among likely Ohio voters.
Kasich topped Clinton, 54 percent-37 percent, and Sanders, 54 percent-35 percent.
- See more at: http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/feb/24/poll-shows-kasich-would-do-better-clinton-and-sand/#sthash.uDhoLKqk.dpuf
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Feb 24, 2016 10:14am
I love Kasich, but if he does not do well March 1, he has to get out of the race. The field needs to coalesce around 1 primary candidate if they want to take down Trump. The longer he stays in, the longer the field is fractured and Trump obtains more and more delegates.
Him finishing last in NV, even behind Carson, really hurts.
He is not winning folks. The math does not work. Therefore, he needs to drop out. Otherwise, Trump steams ahead.
Him finishing last in NV, even behind Carson, really hurts.
He is not winning folks. The math does not work. Therefore, he needs to drop out. Otherwise, Trump steams ahead.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Feb 24, 2016 10:17am
Would love to see a Trump/Kasich card. I think Kasich could give trump some of the government background he will need.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Feb 24, 2016 10:31am
If Kasich wins Ohio on March 15th he could prevent Trump from getting enough delegates to get the nomination since it is a winner take all state.ptown_trojans_1;1783033 wrote:I love Kasich, but if he does not do well March 1, he has to get out of the race. The field needs to coalesce around 1 primary candidate if they want to take down Trump. The longer he stays in, the longer the field is fractured and Trump obtains more and more delegates.
Him finishing last in NV, even behind Carson, really hurts.
He is not winning folks. The math does not work. Therefore, he needs to drop out. Otherwise, Trump steams ahead.
To me, it almost seems that this should be the goal for the GOP establishment. Just get to a brokered convention and choose someone besides Trump in Cleveland.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Feb 24, 2016 10:37am
So, the GOP is putting all the eggs in Kasich to win Ohio then?BoatShoes;1783037 wrote:If Kasich wins Ohio on March 15th he could prevent Trump from getting enough delegates to get the nomination since it is a winner take all state.
To me, it almost seems that this should be the goal for the GOP establishment. Just get to a brokered convention and choose someone besides Trump in Cleveland.
And, if Trump wins Ohio with Kasich still in the race, it is essentially over, Trumps wins the nomination.
If Kasich does poorly on March 1, and Trumps basically takes nearly all of the March 1, states, the GOP would be foolish to bet the whole farm on Kasich to win in Ohio.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Feb 24, 2016 11:26am
Honest question....why would you not want Trump to win? He is gaining momentum not slowing down and either D candidate is a freaking joke! Clinton should be in jail and Bernie in an insane asylum.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Feb 24, 2016 11:53am
Because Boat and Ptown are Dem honks. Trump is ahead of both Bernie and Hillary in the polls and he isn't even paying attention to them right now. People are fed up and Trump is capitalizing on it.rrfan;1783041 wrote:Honest question....why would you not want Trump to win? He is gaining momentum not slowing down and either D candidate is a freaking joke! Clinton should be in jail and Bernie in an insane asylum.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Feb 24, 2016 11:54am
So Rubio and Cruz just flip a coin to see who stays in the race?BoatShoes;1783037 wrote: To me, it almost seems that this should be the goal for the GOP establishment. Just get to a brokered convention and choose someone besides Trump in Cleveland.
Kasich should drop out. Much as I detest Trump, if he beats both Cruz and Rubio cleanly in Ohio then he's earned the nomination. But I suppose if Kasich can win a few states, including Ohio, then he potentially could be the nomination out of a brokered convention.
But it's interesting to me. I don't think other than South Carolina so far that the primaries are indicative of most of the rest of the country. Iowa is heavily evangelical (so is SC, to lesser extent), and New Hampshire and Nevada are just weird. I want to see what happens in TX and FL (and I know Trump is leading in both states, or at least in FL).
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Feb 24, 2016 11:55am
Especially if you're a liberal, because Trump winning 100% guarantees a Democrat will be POTUS.rrfan;1783041 wrote:Honest question....why would you not want Trump to win?