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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 24, 2016 12:35pm
and Trump is a mediocre businessman who received an ethical bypass at birth. What's your point?rrfan;1783041 wrote:Honest question....why would you not want Trump to win? He is gaining momentum not slowing down and either D candidate is a freaking joke! Clinton should be in jail and Bernie in an insane asylum.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 24, 2016 12:50pm
Not sure how updated it is but realclearpolitics takes the average of all polls and trump is losing to both Hillary and Bernie.bases_loaded;1783047 wrote:Because Boat and Ptown are Dem honks. Trump is ahead of both Bernie and Hillary in the polls and he isn't even paying attention to them right now. People are fed up and Trump is capitalizing on it.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Feb 24, 2016 1:03pm
Because "LOUD NOISES!!!!" isn't the #1 thing I look for in a candidate?rrfan;1783041 wrote:Honest question....why would you not want Trump to win? He is gaining momentum not slowing down and either D candidate is a freaking joke! Clinton should be in jail and Bernie in an insane asylum.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Feb 24, 2016 1:11pm
Because he would make a shitty president/world leader.rrfan;1783041 wrote:Honest question....why would you not want Trump to win? He is gaining momentum not slowing down and either D candidate is a freaking joke! Clinton should be in jail and Bernie in an insane asylum.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Feb 24, 2016 2:21pm
gut;1783049 wrote:Especially if you're a liberal, because Trump winning 100% guarantees a Democrat will be POTUS.
I no longer believe that.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Feb 24, 2016 2:35pm
It's 100% correct...because Trump is a Democrat.QuakerOats;1783073 wrote:I no longer believe that.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Feb 25, 2016 4:55am
I think there's too many unions in Ohio working on their employees over Kasich. Seems every time I turn around I hear somebody saying "union-buster SOB" or some such. That's all they care about. They don't want to know what he's done that benefits Ohio, they just fear and despise him.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Feb 25, 2016 9:24am
If it comes to that, and if the GOP establishment is against Trump that much, anyone agreeing to run with him as VP would likely be committing political suicide. I only see Cruz or someone that's not a current candidate willing to take that gamblerrfan;1783035 wrote:Would love to see a Trump/Kasich card. I think Kasich could give trump some of the government background he will need.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Feb 25, 2016 9:45am
Kasich leading clinton by 17% in Ohio; even with Trump in primary.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Feb 25, 2016 12:20pm
People keep saying Kasich needs to get out but it seems to me the only way to stop Trump at this point might be for Kasich to win Ohio, a winner take all state, and hope it prevents Trump from getting enough delegates and shoot for a brokered convention where the GOP brass could craft the winning ticket against the will of the voters - Kasich/Rubio.QuakerOats;1783166 wrote:Kasich leading clinton by 17% in Ohio; even with Trump in primary.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Feb 25, 2016 12:38pm
I'd rather the will of the voters prevail...even if/when it's in direct opposition to my beliefs.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 25, 2016 1:12pm
So would Bernie.Con_Alma;1783204 wrote:I'd rather the will of the voters prevail...even if/when it's in direct opposition to my beliefs.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Feb 25, 2016 1:41pm
queencitybuckeye;1783217 wrote:So would Bernie.
No doubt; if only he had started a money-laundering operation years ago; I mean a foundation.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Feb 25, 2016 1:42pm
That's certainly something Mr. Sanders and I can agree on... although I don't know if he'd adhere to this premise if the voters were completely against his positions. I do. That's really the only time that proof is available on such a statement.queencitybuckeye;1783217 wrote:So would Bernie.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Feb 25, 2016 2:23pm
Let me present Obama and the two idiots running this year for the D's.GOONx19;1783062 wrote:Because he would make a shitty president/world leader.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Feb 25, 2016 2:24pm
I really don't think Kasich has a chance in Ohio.BoatShoes;1783201 wrote:People keep saying Kasich needs to get out but it seems to me the only way to stop Trump at this point might be for Kasich to win Ohio, a winner take all state, and hope it prevents Trump from getting enough delegates and shoot for a brokered convention where the GOP brass could craft the winning ticket against the will of the voters - Kasich/Rubio.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 25, 2016 3:50pm
He will lose to Clinton, quite possibly with more votes in the primaries. Party of the people my ass.Con_Alma;1783233 wrote:That's certainly something Mr. Sanders and I can agree on... although I don't know if he'd adhere to this premise if the voters were completely against his positions. I do. That's really the only time that proof is available on such a statement.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Feb 25, 2016 3:55pm
Well, before we crown Sanders let's see how he does in the mainstream states after we get out of the wackjob primaries of Iowa, NH and NV.queencitybuckeye;1783282 wrote:He will lose to Clinton, quite possibly with more votes in the primaries. Party of the people my ass.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Feb 25, 2016 11:19pm
The establishment hates Trump and Cruz. If in a brokered convention those two finish 1 & 2 in the delegate count and the GOP brass finds a way to nominate another candidate there will be mass desertions of any popular support. The democrat candidate would be a lock.BoatShoes;1783201 wrote:People keep saying Kasich needs to get out but it seems to me the only way to stop Trump at this point might be for Kasich to win Ohio, a winner take all state, and hope it prevents Trump from getting enough delegates and shoot for a brokered convention where the GOP brass could craft the winning ticket against the will of the voters - Kasich/Rubio.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Feb 25, 2016 11:34pm
If Rubio loses in his home state of Florida he is toast. As a viable presidential candidate and a vice presidential prospect.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Feb 26, 2016 8:10am
I agree completely with this.majorspark;1783347 wrote:The establishment hates Trump and Cruz. If in a brokered convention those two finish 1 & 2 in the delegate count and the GOP brass finds a way to nominate another candidate there will be mass desertions of any popular support. The democrat candidate would be a lock.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Feb 26, 2016 11:49am
they are facing the same thing if Bernie gets traction or HC is in jail.majorspark;1783347 wrote:The establishment hates Trump and Cruz. If in a brokered convention those two finish 1 & 2 in the delegate count and the GOP brass finds a way to nominate another candidate there will be mass desertions of any popular support. The democrat candidate would be a lock.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Feb 29, 2016 10:06am
And why is HC not in jail????Spock;1783416 wrote:they are facing the same thing if Bernie gets traction or HC is in jail.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Feb 29, 2016 12:27pm
Because when you are a democrat, its different.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Feb 29, 2016 12:59pm
Bingo!QuakerOats;1783824 wrote:Because when you are a democrat, its different.