BoatShoes;1805795 wrote:LOL. OC still bringing quality entertainment.
Good lord, I had forgotten about this meme.
like_that;1805815 wrote:Man, this is how much I think both suck ass. I agree with you. I would take a third Obama term over the two. I think Obama is a c- president.
I think he's an F. I still wouldn't vote for him against these two, but I wouldn't vote for them, either.
What a terrible system we've developed.
gut;1805949 wrote:LMFAO. You tools would all work for me if you were smart enough...instead you work for people who work for people who work for me. That's what makes you Democrats, because you can't excel on your own merits.
It's ok....Bite down harder on the blanket and your fears will go away.
Dude ... chill. It's the Internet.
BoatShoes;1805952 wrote:How did such an esteemed man of serious business on the west coast wind up on a little Ohio forum? Did you literally search "Serious Business" when it was briefly named ThisForumIsSeriousBusiness.com because your business is so serious?
No dog in this squabble, but I lol'd at that.
jmog;1806007 wrote:Goldwater was a minority opposition during the civil rights acts passing, that is a fact and he ruined the public perception of republicans in the eyes of African Americans.
The tough part is, there are things I look back and liked about the Goldwater brand of Republican. He was staunchly opposed to giving the "moral majority" any real clout in the party.
Fucking Goldwater.
In all fairness, the nomination of an orange candidate doesn't really count as nominating a POC, and that guy hardly does the Republican Party any favors when it comes to race.
Belly35;1806061 wrote:This goes out to my OC friends for those of you who've decided that voting for Trump or Hillary is not a good idea and voting for third-party please reconsider. you falling into the trap of the media believing that you have an option and that would be a third party we all have to agree that neither Trump nor Hillary are what's America's should really have as a candidates for presidency but it is what it is. this election is not about the candidates themselves. So don't buy into that hype that the media is trying to sell you. This election is about whether you want to accept the career politician fraud corruption and irresponsibility of Washington Hillary Clinton or the presidency of a Donald Trump who is a non-politician speaks his mind type individual and brash unorthodox business type. for me I'm an entrepreneur I'm also a veteran I cannot accept the fact that we have four dead people based upon a lie and incompetency Hillary Clinton. I can understand the fact that many of you do not accept Donald Trump because of his brashness and the fact that he's never been in politics. But that is the exact point do we want to continue to accept the lying cheating of career politicians or is a time that we step up and say no more we are Americans we want to truth and we wants what's best for our country and not an agenda set forth by some party we want change and we want what's best for America . It's time to for change and if choosing a Donald Trump is wrong then let it be wrong but choosing a Hillary Clinton is accepting the fact that Washington DC will have control over you keep lying to the American public continued the fraud and corruption to profit for themselves. Don't compromise and vote third-party make a hard-line decision send messaging to Washington we no longer will accept the corruption and lies
Sweet Moses, Belly.
First, given the remarkably few percentage points that third-party candidates have gotten in ANY election in our modern era, I call complete bullshit on saying the media is behind a third-party vote. The media spends all their time talking about Trump and Clinton. Those are the candidates "the media" wants you to consider.
Every election is about the candidates themselves. If someone says otherwise, they're selling you a bag of goods.
Trump is not an entrepreneur. The only businesses of his that have been successful have been the kinds he grew up watching his dad start. Virtually every venture (okay, sans the television show The Apprentice) outside of real estate development has failed. He's not an entrepreneur. He has merely been the chief beneficiary of the nepotism lottery.
It's also worth noting that in the 2008 election, one of the primary indictments against Obama was that he had too little political experience. Can we please make up our minds as to whether that's a good or bad thing? I appreciate it.
We have two major party candidates who are now amid legal troubles (Clinton's email fiasco and Trump's fake university ... yet another failed business venture). And you're telling me that my third-party vote is a compromise? No. I'm the one voting to tell Washington something different. Your vote tells Washington that it can keep throwing sewage candidates out there, and people will keep voting for them, because we'd rather pick the winning horse than vote on conscience.
Gary Johnson has nearly no chance to win. Until enough people stop viewing a third-party vote the way you are, it will always be between the two remarkably similar parties. But that's the issue. It is ONLY the general public's view that is preventing third-party candidates from being viable. If everyone who didn't vote third-party because it's a wasted vote would do so anyway, it wouldn't be a wasted vote.
And if Republicans and Democrats want to pull third-party voters into their camp, they need to put up a MUCH better candidate ... or at least a candidate that isn't an absolute piece of shit. Otherwise, those parties have nobody to blame but themselves, and they should probably shut the fuck up about appealing to third-party voters.
The Democrats had a chance to do this. Bernie Sanders would have drawn all the same Democrat votes, PLUS more independent votes, PLUS the Socialist Party votes.
The Republicans had the chance, too, back in 2012. Ron Paul would have drawn all the same Republican votes, PLUS more independent votes, PLUS the Libertarian Party votes.
But nope. These two parties have their heads so far up their asses they think that the best option is to throw a dumpster fire on the ticket, slap a letter next to it, and then try to guilt the people who call them out on it for not voting for it anyway.
Donald Trump has been shaking hands and making deals with corrupt politicians for decades (he admitted as much in the Republican Primary debates, using the Clintons as an example ... what a dumbass). He's been noted as using bully tactics to not make good on his contracts and commitments. He's leveraged his bankruptcies to still increase his own personal piggy bank. Work history is the ONLY thing different between Trump and even the most corrupt Washington insider.
I like good businessmen who build a business around the community's perceived value of a good or service. I like innovators and hard workers.
Donald Trump is none of these. He's given no indication that he would be a good politician, and he's never been anything more than a one-trick pony in business, and even that one trick was handed to him by his daddy.
Belly, if you ACTUALLY want to buck the media, stop pushing this twat nozzle who has been nothing but a media darling and media whore for most of his adult life.
