majorspark;1803827 wrote:He would have beat the Donald one on one. But that does not matter at this point. I'd be very worried about crooked Hillary she is so bad she may loose to Trump.

Gosh a ruddies, no Trump would have beaten him one on one. He won more Primary votes than any Republican candidate in history. Look at the primary results starting in April when the field is beginning to narrow down, in most of the elections during that time period Trump wins by over 50%. http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
Gosh a ruddies, I don't think Hillary will "loose" to Trump.

majorspark;1803829 wrote:Yet you are voting for the mother of lies.

and gosh a ruddies, you are begging for a chance to vote for a man who violated his pledged word on national television before tens of millions of people.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1803830 wrote:You're delusional if you think Trump is beating Hillary. Of course you probably are in the camp that believes the FBI is in Hillary's back pocket, which confirms that. so...

I said may. I am with sleeper I would not be shocked if he won. She is equally as bad as Trump. You can play sound bite after sound bite of her lies. If the FBI was in Hillary's back pocket Comey would not have said what he said. He exposed her as the liar she is and unfit to hold any position within the FBI.

I know you are upset your man Bernie sold his ass to crooked Hillary who whores herself out to the millionaires and billionaires he railed against. Enjoy.

isadore;1803840 wrote:and gosh a ruddies, you are begging for a chance to vote for a man who violated his pledged word on national television before tens of millions of people.

Cruz is not a candidate for POTUS. I am looking at Gary Johnson. Enjoy voting for the mother of lies.

Cruz marched out there and was the puppet of people like the Koch Brothers and Fox news. Exactly what you get from others on both sides of the isle, except trump

Trump is going to be your POTUS. If you can't reconcile yourself to that, start pricing real estate in Canada.

majorspark;1803844 wrote:Cruz is not a candidate for POTUS. I am looking at Gary Johnson. Enjoy voting for the mother of lies.

gosh a ruddies you are going from lying ted to nutty gary. Good for you.

isadore;1803850 wrote:gosh a ruddies you are going from lying ted to nutty gary. Good for you.

For your enjoyment. You must be so proud of her.

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ZWICK 4 PREZ;1803830 wrote:You're delusional if you think Trump is beating Hillary. Of course you probably are in the camp that believes the FBI is in Hillary's back pocket, which confirms that. so...

FBI in her back pocket is a stretch, but come on Zwick, even a blinded lib like yourself can't feel like Bill's "chance" meeting with Lynch, alone, on her plane had NOTHING to do with Hillary facing no charges...it was really about their grandchildren?

You can't believe that, no logical person on the planet believes that.

fish82;1803848 wrote:Trump is going to be your POTUS. If you can't reconcile yourself to that, start pricing real estate in Canada.

Saw a poll that has Hillary among all women 51-32. So there's a huge bunch of undecideds, and a huge gap....If Trump gets positive traction there - and it won't take much - he's going to surge ahead.

Some people wondered why Trump picked Pence. Personally, I think this election comes down to turnout (as many argued it did in 2012)...Pence helps that.

fish82;1803848 wrote:Trump is going to be your POTUS. If you can't reconcile yourself to that, start pricing real estate in Canada.

I doubt it, soon as Hillary wasn't charged, she won. Our country is just plain stupid.

I mean seriously, all it took was the Rs to nominate ANYONE who wasn't an asshole and they walk away with this election. Rand, Carson, Christie, etc, all would have won easily.

Instead the idiots on the right voted for Trump over any reasonable candidate. Now, those idiots had a "noble" thought (giving the benefit of the doubt) as a vote against the establishment (similar to the Sanders voters), but had they used their brains they would have realized that Trump was too much of an asshole, you have too many middle of the road voters who just don't want our country embarrassed on a national stage and will vote Hillary while holding their nose.

fish82;1803848 wrote:Trump is going to be your POTUS. If you can't reconcile yourself to that, start pricing real estate in Canada.

The LA Times is floating a contingency plan.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-kirchick-trump-coup-20160719-snap-story.html

jmog;1803856 wrote:I doubt it, soon as Hillary wasn't charged, she won. Our country is just plain stupid.

I mean seriously, all it took was the Rs to nominate ANYONE who wasn't an asshole and they walk away with this election. Rand, Carson, Christie, etc, all would have won easily.

Instead the idiots on the right voted for Trump over any reasonable candidate. Now, those idiots had a "noble" thought (giving the benefit of the doubt) as a vote against the establishment (similar to the Sanders voters), but had they used their brains they would have realized that Trump was too much of an asshole, you have too many middle of the road voters who just don't want our country embarrassed on a national stage and will vote Hillary while holding their nose.

Lol Ben Carson is not winning any election ever.

(Agree with all other points though)

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1803780 wrote:agreed. i actually feel for her. We've all been there where we did something and immediately went.. ah fuck that looked bad.

I'm shocked more people don't put it into perspective like this. Generally, politicians aren't actually dumb people (there may be notable exceptions, of course), and they wouldn't be stupid enough to commit THIS brand of career suicide on the national stage.

The kind Cruz committed? Sure. But not this sort.

CenterBHSFan;1803795 wrote:Apparently, this vid is making the emails rounds, since I got it this morning. Might convince you, finally.
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The part that is reflected from the 8:00 to the 8:30 mark, coupled with the fact that Trump admitted on the national stage that he has played the quid-pro-quo game with politicians before is still enough to give pause about his motives. His own actions have never been selfless. It would seem to break precedent to think he would be as much now.

fish82;1803824 wrote:After last night, Cruz won't get within sniffing distance of the GOP nomination ever again. This fall's results will have zero bearing on that...nor will the fact that he's an uber-religious nutjob.

Right. After all, there was plenty of support for Santorum and Perry during the primaries just four years ago. Even I think those guys are fruit loops. Rick Santorum scares the begeezes out of me.

Spock;1803847 wrote:Cruz marched out there and was the puppet of people like the Koch Brothers and Fox news. Exactly what you get from others on both sides of the isle, except trump

Yeah, it's not like Trump has a history of acting with his own financial interests in mind. Certainly, he'd never shake hands with corruption.

Except that time he made a deal with the Clintons and donated a large sum toward their cause.

jmog;1803856 wrote:I doubt it, soon as Hillary wasn't charged, she won. Our country is just plain stupid.

I mean seriously, all it took was the Rs to nominate ANYONE who wasn't an asshole and they walk away with this election. Rand, Carson, Christie, etc, all would have won easily.

Instead the idiots on the right voted for Trump over any reasonable candidate. Now, those idiots had a "noble" thought (giving the benefit of the doubt) as a vote against the establishment (similar to the Sanders voters), but had they used their brains they would have realized that Trump was too much of an asshole, you have too many middle of the road voters who just don't want our country embarrassed on a national stage and will vote Hillary while holding their nose.

And NOW, we get the crowd saying that you've gotta vote for X, or Y will win the White House. Had they been THAT concerned, they might have voted for a more palatable candidate in the primaries.

sleeper;1803834 wrote:I agree he'd beat Hillary. I don't think he beats any other D though.

Oh, I think everyone's beating the D in this election cycle.

jmog;1803856 wrote: you have too many middle of the road voters who just don't want our country embarrassed on a national stage and will vote Hillary while holding their nose.

SportsAndLady;1803858 wrote:Lol Ben Carson is not winning any election ever.

(Agree with all other points though)

I will give you that, mainly because Carson was too nice and too much of a good human being to win. He didn't "excite" anyone because he was just a normal smart dude.

jmog;1803865 wrote:I will give you that, mainly because Carson was too nice and too much of a good human being to win. He didn't "excite" anyone because he was just a normal smart dude.

Carson, a doctor, didn't condemn the anti-vaxxers when he had the chance.

Pretty embarrassing and not something a normal smart dude would ever do.

Carson is just a religious whack job. The most un-relatable candidate I've ever seen in my lifetime. Some of the shit he would say..

Edit: for actual proof of craziness, read here http://www.forwardprogressives.com/5-ben-carson-quotes-proving-hes-too-crazy-to-be-president/

"A lot of people go into prison straight, and when they come out they're gay." I mean what the fuck?

Anyone else shocked that libs are making a huge issue out of Paul Ryan's selfie, because the majority of the interns were white. Only libs/dems would take something as innocent as a selfie with interns and turn it into an all out race issue. The selfie ryan took with a selfie with a group of bipartisan interns btw. Any intern could have gone to listen to Ryan speak. It's sad that people eat this shit up, without checking the facts.

What is the criteria to be a "religious whackjob" nowdays? It seems that everybody who isn't afraid to state that they believe in God is a nutjob. On this forum I've seen this person and that labeled as such.
Granted, I haven't followed Carson or Cruz as much as many on here have, apparently, or perhaps this question would be redundant.

CenterBHSFan;1803874 wrote:What is the criteria to be a "religious whackjob" nowdays? It seems that everybody who isn't afraid to state that they believe in God is a nutjob. On this forum I've seen this person and that labeled as such.
Granted, I haven't followed Carson or Cruz as much as many on here have, apparently, or perhaps this question would be redundant.

Belief in God = cool.

- however -

Belief that others should be forced to oblige God's law/rules/moral code != cool.
Usage of God's law/rules/moral code to make or justify laws for non-theocratic nation != cool.

Worth throwing in might be the blatant opposition of St. Augustine's words on Genesis (in the fifth century) when he said, "We must show our scriptures not to be in conflict with whatever our critics can demonstrate about the nature of things from reliable sources."

Beyond other reasons, most theocracies in modernity have resulted in their own brand of manifest destiny.

Manifest destiny obviously != cool.

like_that;1803873 wrote:Anyone else shocked that libs are making a huge issue out of Paul Ryan's selfie, because the majority of the interns were white. Only libs/dems would take something as innocent as a selfie with interns and turn it into an all out race issue. The selfie ryan took with a selfie with a group of bipartisan interns btw. Any intern could have gone to listen to Ryan speak. It's sad that people eat this shit up, without checking the facts.

I've read a few articles about this, and from what I can gather most of the interns in that photo are republicans. Might be a few non republicans, but majority are republican. I think it just shows the lack diversity within the republican party. Sounds like you don't think of that as an issue.

I'll add that diversity in congress itself isn't great, on both sides. I think QQing about interns shouldn't be the first soapbox people step on.

SportsAndLady;1803870 wrote:Carson is just a religious whack job. The most un-relatable candidate I've ever seen in my lifetime. Some of the shit he would say..

Edit: for actual proof of craziness, read here http://www.forwardprogressives.com/5-ben-carson-quotes-proving-hes-too-crazy-to-be-president/

"A lot of people go into prison straight, and when they come out they're gay." I mean what the fuck?

yeah, that website isn't biased...

Also, are you trying to say that straight people don't have homosexual interactions while in prison? You might want to check the facts.

I thought the selfie was great along with faux outrage, then the following outrage to the outrage. Total fuckery. I love it.