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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Apr 21, 2016 12:30pm
Pretty incredible, really.Wolves of Babylon;1792430 wrote:This should have been a slam dunk win for the Republicans against Hilary, but the nominee is Trump.
Donald Trump vs Hilary ... smh
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Apr 21, 2016 12:35pm
Only way to stop him at this point is the party just saying "fuck you" to the voters with convention rule shenanigans. Dems did in 1968. The Cuyahoga will burn again!ptown_trojans_1;1792393 wrote:Well Trump destroyed last night. pretty much wiping out everything Cruz has did the last month.
Math wise, Cruz cannot get to 1237. After next week, looking at the polls, Trump should sweep the states, further adding to his total.
It is possible he clinches 1237 in June.
I've accepted he is now the R nominee.
Unless there are some crazy upsets, he will either get really close, or clinch in June.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Apr 21, 2016 12:41pm
A lot of people just aren't that into politics at all and just vote with their subtle biases.fish82;1790931 wrote:I think there's a difference between just being "stupid," and being "intellectually lazy."
Yes, it's a stupid thing to do, but I don't think that necessarily equates to the person actually being stupid. (Although I'm sure there are no shortage of cases where it does, LOL)
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 22, 2016 3:47pm
people seem more concerned about having a right to vote, than in actually exercising that right responsibly. I am amazed at the number of single issue voters there are.....and a lot of these issues are just not very important in the scheme of things.BoatShoes;1792672 wrote:A lot of people just aren't that into politics at all and just vote with their subtle biases.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Apr 23, 2016 9:10am
Like what bathroom people go to, or (GASP!) abortion.HitsRus;1792865 wrote:people seem more concerned about having a right to vote, than in actually exercising that right responsibly. I am amazed at the number of single issue voters there are.....and a lot of these issues are just not very important in the scheme of things.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 26, 2016 10:54am
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Apr 26, 2016 12:18pm
Yeah, not a surprise. The primary is essentially over. Once Trump wins Indiana, he should roll into 1237 by the end of the primary season.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 26, 2016 2:23pm
We'll see; he may come up about 80 short, but there would be a mini-revolution if they try to screw with him. Everybody needs to suck it up and get behind him because there is an awful lot at stake over the next 4-8 years.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Apr 26, 2016 2:31pm
Just put in my vote for trump on the pa primary. At this point might as well rally behind him, better than Hillary
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ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Apr 26, 2016 2:38pm
Doubt it. All the numbers and polls have him rolling over 1237.QuakerOats;1793401 wrote:We'll see; he may come up about 80 short, but there would be a mini-revolution if they try to screw with him. Everybody needs to suck it up and get behind him because there is an awful lot at stake over the next 4-8 years.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Apr 26, 2016 3:31pm
Has the rules committee even set 1237 as the magic number for the 2016 convention yet? I know the media is using the old data, but rules normally change for each convention.ptown_trojans_1;1793407 wrote:Doubt it. All the numbers and polls have him rolling over 1237.
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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Apr 26, 2016 3:36pm
Do you honestly in your heart and mind think Trump could beat Hilary?QuakerOats;1793401 wrote:We'll see; he may come up about 80 short, but there would be a mini-revolution if they try to screw with him. Everybody needs to suck it up and get behind him because there is an awful lot at stake over the next 4-8 years.
I don't and we will be left Hilary Clinton which is a nightmare.
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ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Apr 26, 2016 3:42pm
The Convention, no, obviously, but the RNC has stated those have been the targets since last year.Al Bundy;1793415 wrote:Has the rules committee even set 1237 as the magic number for the 2016 convention yet? I know the media is using the old data, but rules normally change for each convention.
Changing the 1237 number now only plays right into Trump's argument that the system is rigged.
If Trump hits 1237, there is no way the RNC can deny him the nomination. There would be a revolt on the floor.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 27, 2016 7:28am
Trump closes to within 200 delegates. 
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Apr 27, 2016 9:11am
Can't wait for at least four years of Hillary. Thanks, Trumpeters!
4cards
Posts: 2,551
Apr 27, 2016 4:25pm
...Cruz is going to name Carly Fiorna has his running mate. I like Carly because of her business savvy and her toughness but I doubt it will change the outcome of Trump winning the Republican nomination. As far as Hillary being the next president, I think she's in for tough go with the dirt she's going to have to explain & may be forced to set aside amid all the scandals she's embroiled in.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 27, 2016 4:35pm
Lol that is such an awful move.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 4:39pm
Yeah, what? Fiorina isn't as bad as Palin, but what a dumb move.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2016 4:40pm
She will have a tough go but I'd still bet on her to win the Presidency. Trump will hammer her repeatedly in the debates but I'm not sure it'll matter much in the national polls.4cards;1793627 wrote:...Cruz is going to name Carly Fiorna has his running mate. I like Carly because of her business savvy and her toughness but I doubt it will change the outcome of Trump winning the Republican nomination. As far as Hillary being the next president, I think she's in for tough go with the dirt she's going to have to explain & may be forced to set aside amid all the scandals she's embroiled in.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Apr 27, 2016 4:40pm
Yeah, not a good move. Seems desperate, cause it is.
Trump picked up 33 Penn Delegates, giving him 987 total.
Trump now has a majority of the delegates awarded so far. He has to win just 48 percent of the remaining delegates to clinch the nomination and avoid a contested convention.
His speech today was also just full of contradictions and is a sharp departure from the R policy of the last 16 years.
Trump picked up 33 Penn Delegates, giving him 987 total.
Trump now has a majority of the delegates awarded so far. He has to win just 48 percent of the remaining delegates to clinch the nomination and avoid a contested convention.
His speech today was also just full of contradictions and is a sharp departure from the R policy of the last 16 years.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Apr 27, 2016 4:42pm
The only states that matter are Indiana and California. And if the RNC changes the rules or not. Do not like the fiorina pick at all.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 2, 2016 10:49am
Fab4Runner;1793513 wrote:Can't wait for at least four years of Hillary. Thanks, Trumpeters!
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_41_clinton_39
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
May 2, 2016 11:02am
Given Rasmussen's awful record, and right leaning, I wouldn't take those results too likely. Rasmussen was incredibly off in 2012.QuakerOats;1794495 wrote:http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_41_clinton_39
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
May 2, 2016 11:05am
Fivethirtyeight lists Trump has a 69% chance of winning Indiana. Their polls plus marker I think has been accurate on pretty much every state.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/indiana-republican/
If that holds, the race is over. Trump would hit 1237 with a win in Cal.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/indiana-republican/
If that holds, the race is over. Trump would hit 1237 with a win in Cal.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
May 2, 2016 2:25pm
Everyone was off to some extent in 2012.ptown_trojans_1;1794498 wrote:Given Rasmussen's awful record, and right leaning, I wouldn't take those results too likely. Rasmussen was incredibly off in 2012.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/
Rasmussen's record over their history is actually pretty damn good.