Republican debates/primaries.

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sleeper
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Feb 20, 2016 10:17pm
like_that;1782474 wrote:Let's be real it's down to 3. Kasich doesn't have a shot unfortunately. Carson needs to go fuck himself and drop out. All these dumb fucks are helping out trump for Super Tuesday.
Agreed on Carson. Like wtf?
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friendfromlowry
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Feb 21, 2016 12:24am
gut;1782481 wrote:Trump is taking a good number of Cruz voters - won all the heavily Evangelical districts Cruz was supposed to take. Cruz doesn't appear able to pass Trump. His only chance is if Trump implodes (and WTF would Trump have to do for that to happen?!?), or Rubio drops out and I don't see that happening.

Agreed Kasich could do better in the purple and midwest states. Probably why he remains in the contest, but he will prevent Rubio from overtaking Trump. Carson staying in the race, even with as few of votes as he's getting, probably helps Rubio a little.
For a while there, every time he spoke I thought "surely this is it. People will see the light." But, here we are. I'm convinced he could just walk on stage and start masturbating at the next debate and people would still vote for him.
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Feb 21, 2016 8:43am
^^^ agreed . :(
For a "republican"to get onstage in a national televised debate and rip George Bush, blame him for 9/11, mince no words in calling Iraq a "mistake"...... I thought sure he had jumped the shark.
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Wolves of Babylon
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Feb 21, 2016 12:08pm
I'm sorry to say this, Trump is not losing.

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Feb 21, 2016 12:56pm
Still too early to call it for Trump. If he is ahead by a good margin come the end of March, the yeah, it is his to lose. But, if Rubio can start to pick away at some states and then make a good push in the middle and end of March, then I could see the narrative shifting toward Rubio.
Rubio greatest strength is he is seen as the only one that can really take down Hilliary. If he hammers that message, he may be able to out maneuver Trump.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if this thing goes all the way to the convention.
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Feb 21, 2016 2:01pm
Wolves of Babylon;1782523 wrote:I'm sorry to say this, Trump is not losing.

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Trump only has about 30% of the pub votes. Soon as it's down to him and either Cruz or Rubio, I'm not so sure he will come out on top.
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Feb 21, 2016 2:18pm
ptown_trojans_1;1782528 wrote:Still too early to call it for Trump. If he is ahead by a good margin come the end of March, the yeah, it is his to lose. But, if Rubio can start to pick away at some states and then make a good push in the middle and end of March, then I could see the narrative shifting toward Rubio.
Rubio greatest strength is he is seen as the only one that can really take down Hilliary. If he hammers that message, he may be able to out maneuver Trump.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if this thing goes all the way to the convention.
The Rubio camp is already preparing for a brokered convention, and if it comes to that, they think they have a good shot at getting the nomination.
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gut
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Feb 21, 2016 3:08pm
HitsRus;1782539 wrote:The Rubio camp is already preparing for a brokered convention, and if it comes to that, they think they have a good shot at getting the nomination.
In a brokered convention, Trump probably still screws them running as an independent because "I was treated unfairly".

Part of me still thinks that Trump could be a human Super-PAC for Hillary trolling the Repubs.
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Wolves of Babylon
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Feb 21, 2016 5:44pm
What we don't really know is how many people have Trump as their number two when Carson, Bush,Kasich or Cruz drop out.

And I'm not sure how many people really think Marco Rubio is a real leader.

Either way this country will have two terrible candidates.

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gut
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Feb 21, 2016 6:33pm
Wolves of Babylon;1782616 wrote:What we don't really know is how many people have Trump as their number two when Carson, Bush,Kasich or Cruz drop out.
They have done plenty of polls on that, and those polls indicate almost no one has Trump as their second choice. But if those votes split between Cruz and Rubio, it may not be enough for either to overcome Trump's lead.
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Feb 22, 2016 10:46am
A vote for Trump isn't necessarily because they like Trump, I think the vote is for someone outside the establisment...trump is the only candidate that gives the voter that choice.
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Feb 22, 2016 2:20pm
It's never good when you vote for someone out of anger, or for change for the sake of change.
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QuakerOats
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Feb 22, 2016 2:50pm
Stanley Druckenmiller just endorsed Kasich; that could be a huge shot-in-the-arm $$$$-wise.
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Feb 22, 2016 4:27pm
Trump has ZERO chance to win. They will broker the convention if they have to and fuck him. There also is no chance to win a general election not with a party, he's a smart businessman and would not take that risk.

The infrastructure it takes in a general election is too overwhelming to not have a party supporting you


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Feb 22, 2016 4:38pm
HitsRus;1782777 wrote:It's never good when you vote for someone out of anger, or for change for the sake of change.
People on this board have been saying that about the people that voted for Obama for years.
Funny how Trump supporters fall into that broad category.
Classyposter58;1782806 wrote:Trump has ZERO chance to win. They will broker the convention if they have to and fuck him. There also is no chance to win a general election not with a party, he's a smart businessman and would not take that risk.

The infrastructure it takes in a general election is too overwhelming to not have a party supporting you


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You sure? I wouldn't put it past Trump's echo to think if he had enough delegates and won enough states to think, if he wasn't the nominee, to go 3rd party. His echo is that big.
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Feb 22, 2016 4:41pm
ptown_trojans_1;1782814 wrote:People on this board have been saying that about the people that voted for Obama for years.
Funny how Trump supporters fall into that broad category.



You sure? I wouldn't put it past Trump's echo to think if he had enough delegates and won enough states to think, if he wasn't the nominee, to go 3rd party. His echo is that big.
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And those same people on this board say the trump supporters are dumbasses for that reason (amongst others). Funny how you fail to mention that.


Also it doesn't matter if his ego is big or not to think he can win. If he truly feels he got fucked over he would just put his name on the ballot to fuck the GOP over.
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Feb 22, 2016 4:47pm
like_that;1782815 wrote:And those same people on this board say the trump supporters are dumbasses for that reason (amongst others). Funny how you fail to mention that.


Also it doesn't matter if his ego is big or not to think he can win. If he truly feels he got fucked over he would just put his name on the ballot to fuck the GOP over.
Yeah, most of the board are not fans of Trump, I get that.

Very true on that last point. I could see that too.
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Feb 22, 2016 6:05pm
Yea this whole trump running as an independent could really f the Republican Party. Would be a disaster.


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Feb 22, 2016 7:31pm
I don't think Trump is a Republican anyway.... So if he becomes the party's nominee they already lose the election even if he wins in November. If he goes 3rd party because he can't win the nomination outright, to quote Hillary Clinton "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!"
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BoatShoes
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Feb 23, 2016 12:07pm
ptown_trojans_1;1782814 wrote:People on this board have been saying that about the people that voted for Obama for years.
Funny how Trump supporters fall into that broad category.



You sure? I wouldn't put it past Trump's echo to think if he had enough delegates and won enough states to think, if he wasn't the nominee, to go 3rd party. His echo is that big.
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I can't say for other states, but unless the ballot rules are special for Presidential candidates in Ohio, Trump will not be eligible to run as a non-party "independent" candidate after the Republican Primary is over and he has declared under penalty of election falsification that he is a Republican and John Husted could keep him off the ballot in accord with established Ohio election law.

He could still run as a Write-In candidate though.
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gut
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Feb 23, 2016 3:00pm
BoatShoes;1782926 wrote: He could still run as a Write-In candidate though.
Well, that shouldn't be a problem since I doubt most of his supporters can write.:RpS_razz:
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QuakerOats
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Feb 23, 2016 3:13pm
It didn't take much more than a decade for political correctness to spawn such brain matter leakage so as to result in the assault on straight talk.
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Feb 23, 2016 5:05pm
HitsRus;1782834 wrote:I don't think Trump is a Republican anyway...."
Why do you say this?
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Feb 23, 2016 9:26pm
^^^

support for single payer health system, tax increases, past pro-abortion history...just to name a few.
Attacks on GWB at the debate last Saturday, blaming him for 9/11.....he might as well been in the democratic debate. SMH.