Apple;1769468 wrote:If you have ever had the privilege of meeting with, or having a conversation on the phone with, Belly, you will immediately know his writing/English skills on the OC are not indicative of who he is in person.

Having had conversations with him, it becomes amusing to me to read posts on the OC that mock Belly for the way he writes his post.

Cast your stones on here if you must, for whatever joy or whatever it brings to you.

His situation I respect. Your's, not so much.

Thank you Apple for your friendship, I appreciate your efforts.
How about lunch today I need to talk to you about developing an App.

I know who I am, what I have achieved and where I started from ....I've learned to be thick skinned and understanding to those who prejudge me because the lack of writing skills.

This topic is not about me back to topic.

Belly35;1769553 wrote:I know who I am, what I have achieved and where I started from ....I've learned to be thick skinned and understanding to those who prejudge me because the lack of writing skills.

This topic is not about me back to topic.

Then respond to my post. Do you really think that accomplishing this:

This would let the general law abiding public knowledge of just how wonderful, caring and outstanding community citizen this belligerent weapon wielding individual really is.

is (A) possible? and (B) going to accomplish anything re: preventing further violence and rioting from an outraged community?

Belly- you have a message...

Belly35;1769553 wrote:I know who I am, what I have achieved and where I started from ....I've learned to be thick skinned and understanding to those who prejudge me because the lack of writing skills.

most of us prejudge you because you make stupid threads, inject politics into nearly every problem, and you seem to think you're better than everyone else. The inability to write is just icing on the cake

get over yourself.

MontyBrunswick;1769566 wrote:most of us prejudge you because you make stupid threads, inject politics into nearly every problem, and you seem to think you're better than everyone else. The inability to write is just icing on the cake

get over yourself.

That's a misread, but not unexpected.


As for the thread topic, Belly again makes a great point. However, the liberal media has its marching orders, and that is to paint cops as racist power mongers. Thus, when a cops takes down a perp, you will never first get to hear about the mile-long rap sheets that most of these thuggers have which would make it more understandable to most people why the cop and the thug are 'meeting' in the first place.

Irony -

"The same people who believe they must keep military grade rifles on a person 24 hours a day "in case of Government takeover" and advocate violent resistance in this paranoid fantasy world.....
are also the ones who think it's OK that Eric Garner, Sandra Bland, et al., are dead because of mouthing off, instead of meekly submitting."

Cindi

friendfromlowry;1769555 wrote:Then respond to my post. Do you really think that accomplishing this:


is (A) possible? and (B) going to accomplish anything re: preventing further violence and rioting from an outraged community?

Typical Belly. Doesn't shy away from bragging about himself, can't be bothered to respond when people try to ask him a serious question.

friendfromlowry;1769831 wrote:Typical Belly. Doesn't shy away from bragging about himself, can't be bothered to respond when people try to ask him a serious question.

I like who I am and confident, you see it as bragging I see it as standard achieved. I try to respond to most threads sometimes the demand is greater than time permits. Popularity a bitch

Anything is possible if some media (even the internet blogs) starts posting this information. The facts, truth and information are the key to making cognitive conclusions.

Will this help prevent riots and protest….. Is it worth trying?

One of many part of the problem is the society division of the INFORMED and UNINFORMED.

Those that riot, destroy and loot have no idea nor do they care anything about the situation, the individual involved and what events happen up to the incident … “Riot for Goods”

Those leaders leading the protest have good intention ( 1st Amendment) but fail to hit the real issue and the end result is destruction and their cause is lost in the burning of building, stealing of TV and breaking of store windows.

Posting the individual criminal history before presenting the video with just provides information how someone interrupts this information … I don’t have that answer.

There are bad cops, the police need to be better trained and prepared.. agreed. Proficiency in shooting does not require 30 rounds….

The long time history of community leaders pointing fingers and placing blame for self profit motives and misleading ideology for gain is now been identified Jesse and Sharpton are jokes. The problem is the damage is done. Communities and leaders check yourself before blaming others for what been created within the community, regarding crime, education and poverty. (keep the people poor, uneducated and depended equates to have control Malcom X 1964)
Riot for the death of a career criminal, without knowledge of the facts or situation, at the hand of a white police officer is old school. It does not solve the real problem within the communities. Playing on drama and emotion of a less important issue and avoid addressing the real problem within is always the easiest path of redirecting the problem. Doing nothing about the drive by shooting and the death of 9 year old little girl does not speak to the outside viewer that the community has the proper priorities. Where is the community finger pointers, where the blame, where the protest, where the community self demands, where the list of requires the people within the communities can do (turn in a felon for food) (reward Giant Eagle gift card for illegal relative carrying a gun)(demand educated 3.0 kids). In the end no body cares (those rioting don’t care and those watching the rioting don’t care) because the value system is skewed.

Posting criminal history could create a non sympathy attitude from the beginning which is what happens in the end so just skip the drama.

^^^^ Post of the month! Get a beer.

Belly35;1769894 wrote:I like who I am and confident, you see it as bragging I see it as standard achieved. I try to respond to most threads sometimes the demand is greater than time permits. Popularity a bitch.

Those that riot, destroy and loot have no idea nor do they care anything about the situation, the individual involved and what events happen up to the incident … “Riot for Goods”

I figured if you cared enough to create the thread initially, you'd find the time to respond to the few people taking you serious. Silly me.

As for the bolded part, I think that's your answer.

Belly35;1769894 wrote: Posting criminal history could create a non sympathy attitude from the beginning which is what happens in the end so just skip the drama.

So what audience are you exactly trying to reign in with this information? On extreme, people will 100%, no questions asked, side with the police. On the other extreme, people will 100%, no questions asked, say that the police are in the wrong. But the rest of us in the middle understand that some of the shootings are justified and some of the shootings are bullshit.

So who does posting the criminal record help?

In my opinion, I don't think it matters what the person's record is since each incident should be judged on it's own merits. But that's just me.

sherm03;1770136 wrote: In my opinion, I don't think it matters what the person's record is since each incident should be judged on it's own merits. But that's just me.

I agree with you to a point, but when you have two sides to a story and you don't know who's telling the truth, knowing their history can help you determine who is telling the truth. If you have a cop who has a history of shooting people, maybe you shouldn't be so willing to believe he was defending himself. If the kid getting shot has never been in trouble before maybe you should believe him when he says he wasn't doing anything wrong. If he's been in jail multiple times perhaps you shouldn't be so willing to believe him.

FatHobbit;1770139 wrote:I agree with you to a point, but when you have two sides to a story and you don't know who's telling the truth, knowing their history can help you determine who is telling the truth. If you have a cop who has a history of shooting people, maybe you shouldn't be so willing to believe he was defending himself. If the kid getting shot has never been in trouble before maybe you should believe him when he says he wasn't doing anything wrong. If he's been in jail multiple times perhaps you shouldn't be so willing to believe him.

In fairness, usually in these situations there is only one side of the story that we actually get to hear because one person is dead. And I think each one still needs to be judged on it's own merits since just because someone broke the law, it doesn't mean they should have been shot and killed. A person could have been arrested 100 times for a minor infraction, but that doesn't mean that in this particular interaction they were violent or aggressive and warranted getting shot.

I feel like posting the criminal record does nothing more than help the people who support the police 100% feel better about the incident so they can say, "see, it was a bad guy...even if it wasn't justified, who cares? It was just a criminal thug, blah blah blah."

sherm03;1770140 wrote:In fairness, usually in these situations there is only one side of the story that we actually get to hear because one person is dead. And I think each one still needs to be judged on it's own merits since just because someone broke the law, it doesn't mean they should have been shot and killed. A person could have been arrested 100 times for a minor infraction, but that doesn't mean that in this particular interaction they were violent or aggressive and warranted getting shot.

I feel like posting the criminal record does nothing more than help the people who support the police 100% feel better about the incident so they can say, "see, it was a bad guy...even if it wasn't justified, who cares? It was just a criminal thug, blah blah blah."

posting the history off crime is a direct link to behavior attitude of resistant to laws and authority. Who will this address those with common senses and those who have been victims of individual like this...he got what deserved this time... Leopard don't change their spots... Sooner or later this behavior will bite you in the ass and his ass just got served....

walking down a street waving a gun or knife and being disorderly, disrespectful to the officers and challenging / provoking, running, fighting and against challenging / provoking because they know that they have warrants, drugs and have committed a crime .... Leopard don't change their spots ....
Those police want to go home to their family ....scared, concerned and in a situation they never been in before...
Each situation is not different ... I will make this simple for you... Compliance Get on the ground... Drop the weapon
Do what you're told and nobody will get hurt and everyone will go home to fight another day. What is so hard about this.

ive been pulled over traffic situation... Gun in the truck, weapon on me .... Yes sir, yes sir... Get out of the truck hand cuffed there was no reason for that but I complied ... What because I have nothing to hide, nothing illegally wrong and nothing to be concerned about, I did nothing to provoke a situation. I get my guns back, no ticket is written (I had the head light in the truck to repair), got to know the officer... All is good..

Question: is a Black man less likely to resist arrest from a Black police officer? This needs to be answered to solve this issue because this is part of the problem.

Belly35;1770341 wrote:posting the history off crime is a direct link to behavior attitude of resistant to laws and authority. Who will this address those with common senses and those who have been victims of individual like this...he got what deserved this time... Leopard don't change their spots... Sooner or later this behavior will bite you in the ass and his ass just got served....

Thank you for proving this part of my post that you quoted:

sherm03;1770140 wrote: I feel like posting the criminal record does nothing more than help the people who support the police 100% feel better about the incident so they can say, "see, it was a bad guy...even if it wasn't justified, who cares? It was just a criminal thug, blah blah blah."