Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Apr 13, 2016 3:36pm
I'm in the stock piling draft pick camp. You're going to suck this year and next couple. 1 pick will not help that much. Draft high round picks often, don't miss on them...and do the same next year. That's why I'm all for it. This team is no where close to being 1 player away. They're about 22 players away, get as many as you can through the draft.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 13, 2016 3:39pm
I used to be in the camp, now I'm not. Get me a fucking QB. It's just too damn hard to win without an awesome QB.Benny The Jet;1791678 wrote:I'm in the stock piling draft pick camp. You're going to suck this year and next couple. 1 pick will not help that much. Draft high round picks often, don't miss on them...and do the same next year. That's why I'm all for it. This team is no where close to being 1 player away. They're about 22 players away, get as many as you can through the draft.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 13, 2016 3:55pm
I'm in the "Let's not trade the #2" camp. The only way I consider it is if we get a deal that BEATS the RGIII deal a few years ago.
That trade was 3 1sts(2 net) and 1 2nd rounder to move down 4 spots(from #2 to 6) so you do the math.
That trade was 3 1sts(2 net) and 1 2nd rounder to move down 4 spots(from #2 to 6) so you do the math.
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Sonofanump
Apr 13, 2016 3:56pm
Yeah, but, his name might be Deshaun Watson after a 1-15 campaign in 2016...Commander of Awesome;1791681 wrote:I used to be in the camp, now I'm not. Get me a fucking QB. It's just too damn hard to win without an awesome QB.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 13, 2016 3:56pm
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 13, 2016 3:56pm
I'd take that trade. Not really thrilled by the "top" QBs.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 13, 2016 3:57pm
Not a goff believer?like_br;1791685 wrote:I'd take that trade. Not really thrilled by the "top" QBs.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 13, 2016 4:04pm
He doesn't make me excited.Commander of Awesome;1791687 wrote:Not a goff believer?
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 13, 2016 4:10pm
Lol that deal is terrible. Unless they are getting a pretty legit player from the Broncos its not even worth it.
Browns would go from #2 to #19 and pick up picks #31 and 49 in this years draft and then a 3rd rounder in 2017 and a unknown player.
In 2012 the Rams went from #2 to #6 and picked up pick #39 in that draft and then also got the Redskins 1st round picks in 2013 and 2014.
Browns would go from #2 to #19 and pick up picks #31 and 49 in this years draft and then a 3rd rounder in 2017 and a unknown player.
In 2012 the Rams went from #2 to #6 and picked up pick #39 in that draft and then also got the Redskins 1st round picks in 2013 and 2014.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 13, 2016 4:18pm
You would trade the 2nd overall pick for the 2 late first round picks, a #2, and unnamed player?like_that;1791685 wrote:I'd take that trade. Not really thrilled by the "top" QBs.
Okay Mangini.
Does anyone remember the joke of a trade we got in exchange for Julio Jones? That's what it reminds me of.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Apr 13, 2016 4:19pm
I don't think you'll ever see an offer like that again, because of what happened with the RG3 tradesleeper;1791683 wrote:I'm in the "Let's not trade the #2" camp. The only way I consider it is if we get a deal that BEATS the RGIII deal a few years ago.
That trade was 3 1sts(2 net) and 1 2nd rounder to move down 4 spots(from #2 to 6) so you do the math.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 13, 2016 4:26pm
Not even close to what the mangini trade was. I wouldn't expect you to know that since you don't really follow Cleveland sports and just spew hot takes.sleeper;1791693 wrote:You would trade the 2nd overall pick for the 2 late first round picks, a #2, and unnamed player?
Okay Mangini.
Does anyone remember the joke of a trade we got in exchange for Julio Jones? That's what it reminds me of.
The deal itself for Julio was a great trade. The picks made by management after the trade were a disgrace. Give any legitimate gm those picks and the Browns would be in really good shape now.
Also, has Julio won anything in his life? He is trash. /sleeper
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 13, 2016 4:37pm
The Mangini trade was pure garbage. We got a bunch of no name fillers and trash draft picks for the #6 pick in the draft.like_that;1791695 wrote:Not even close to what the mangini trade was. I wouldn't expect you to know that since you don't really follow Cleveland sports and just spew hot takes.
The deal itself for Julio was a great trade. The picks made by management after the trade were a disgrace. Give any legitimate gm those picks and the Browns would be in really good shape now.
Also, has Julio won anything in his life? He is trash. /sleeper
The current one proposed is only slightly better but not worth it for the #2 pick.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Apr 13, 2016 4:40pm
If they keep the 2, I really don't want a qb. Not saying we don't need one, but don't think either is worth the 2. I'd put money on it that we will be the worst team next year and drafting number one, and I think Watson projects much better as a top quarterback than either of these two.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Apr 13, 2016 5:29pm
5 picks in the top 49 would definitely go a long way on the rebuild if we hit on those picks. I wouldn't mind taking jalon smith with one of those 3rd picks. Was a top 5 player before the injury.
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Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 13, 2016 6:18pm
Everything I've read about Smith's injury is he'll be lucky to even be 80% of what he once was. No thanks, I'm out on anything higher than a late 5th flier on that. Unless you've heard otherwise regarding his injury.Crimson streak;1791702 wrote:5 picks in the top 49 would definitely go a long way on the rebuild if we hit on those picks. I wouldn't mind taking jalon smith with one of those 3rd picks. Was a top 5 player before the injury.
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From Yahoo: "Yahoo Sports’ Charles Robinson reported at the time that Smith had been removed from at least three teams’ draft boards" .
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 13, 2016 6:20pm
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2016/04/13/andy-benoit-says-with-goff-like-talking-to-a-really-good-soon-to-be-rookie-with-wentz-like-a-five-year-veteran/
I wouldn't hesitate to use the #2 on Wentz.
I wouldn't hesitate to use the #2 on Wentz.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 13, 2016 6:23pm
NFL clubs believe Jaylon Smith will miss all of 2016, at minimum
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000639183/article/nfl-clubs-believe-jaylon-smith-will-miss-all-of-2016-at-minimum
NFL clubs on Jaylon Smith's knee injury: 'It's bad'
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000639790/article/nfl-clubs-on-jaylon-smiths-knee-injury-its-bad
This is an injury is less than the injury that cost Ifo to drop to the 7th, and never play for the browns. I think I'm out on Smith unless someone provides better injury news.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000639183/article/nfl-clubs-believe-jaylon-smith-will-miss-all-of-2016-at-minimum
NFL clubs on Jaylon Smith's knee injury: 'It's bad'
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000639790/article/nfl-clubs-on-jaylon-smiths-knee-injury-its-bad
This is an injury is less than the injury that cost Ifo to drop to the 7th, and never play for the browns. I think I'm out on Smith unless someone provides better injury news.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 13, 2016 6:58pm
SmhBenny The Jet;1791699 wrote:If they keep the 2, I really don't want a qb. Not saying we don't need one, but don't think either is worth the 2. I'd put money on it that we will be the worst team next year and drafting number one, and I think Watson projects much better as a top quarterback than either of these two.
You're a good poster Benny, I just can't disagree with you more here lol
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Apr 13, 2016 7:07pm
Ha, fair enough
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Apr 13, 2016 9:02pm
Any leaks on Browns schedule? Looks like set to be released to public tomorrow at 8
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 13, 2016 10:09pm
2 to 19 is a long way to trade back, but I lean toward doing the deal. 4 picks in the top 49 can yield a lot of talent.
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iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Apr 14, 2016 10:16am
Well if the Ram's take the guy the Browns want, a trade becomes a lot more likely. No team has this "Oh well, take whoever is left" attitude. You stick with your draft board and if the Ram's take that guy, you go BPA.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 14, 2016 12:28pm
At this point, I would see what we can get out of Thomas, and draft Tunsil.
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shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 14, 2016 12:31pm
If we draft a fucking tackle at 2 I'll be livid. Tired of oline in the first two rounds. Fucking PLAYMAKERS. Jack Ramsey or left over QB. Not a tackle.