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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Jan 3, 2016 8:35pm
Yep, he's poison. Gordon too. Clean out asap.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 3, 2016 8:36pm
Agreed.Gardens35;1772943 wrote:Yep, he's poison. Gordon too. Clean out asap.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jan 3, 2016 8:36pm
Saw one thought mentioned a few times that splitting power in the front office opens it up for a head coach wanting more power, in which case you get a Chip Kelly.
The players will still be turds, but hey.
The players will still be turds, but hey.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 3, 2016 8:37pm
I am ok with booting JFF, but getting rid of Gordon would be fucking stupid at this point. He wasn't a distracting like JFF is and he still has 2 years on his contract. The Browns have nothing to lose on that front.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jan 3, 2016 8:39pm
Yeah keep gordon. Buhhh bye Johnny. Hello Goff at number 2
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Jan 3, 2016 8:44pm
C ' mon like that, when others have to "baby sit" a teammate, he's a distraction. 2014 season went to shit starting the day he returned.like_that;1772946 wrote:I am ok with booting JFF, but getting rid of Gordon would be fucking stupid at this point. He wasn't a distracting like JFF is and he still has 2 years on his contract. The Browns have nothing to lose on that front.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2016 8:50pm
He wasn't a distraction scoring all those touchdowns two years ago.Gardens35;1772948 wrote:C ' mon like that, when others have to "baby sit" a teammate, he's a distraction. 2014 season went to shit starting the day he returned.
Gordon will be fine, as long as he isn't getting suspended.
He paid his dues, now he can come back and prove he can stay clean and produce on the field.
Cutting him does absolutely nothing.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 3, 2016 8:59pm
Keep Gordon but impress on him that there is no word that describes how thin the ice is he's standing on.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 3, 2016 9:08pm
Yeah, give Gordon the talk of this is it or you'll be begging for money the rest of your life. Grow up, follow all rules (dumb or not)and the sky is the limit.queencitybuckeye;1772950 wrote:Keep Gordon but impress on him that there is no word that describes how thin the ice is he's standing on.
Can't get rid of Gordon....an elite skill position guy
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Jan 3, 2016 9:13pm
Kevin sumlin will prob be the next coach
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 3, 2016 9:15pm
They beat Atlanta and Gordon had a great game his first game back. To place the blame on Gordon for the season going to shit is just ignorant.Gardens35;1772948 wrote:C ' mon like that, when others have to "baby sit" a teammate, he's a distraction. 2014 season went to shit starting the day he returned.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 3, 2016 9:19pm
The phrase you're looking for is "zero tolerance"queencitybuckeye;1772950 wrote: there is no word that describes how thin the ice is he's standing on.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 3, 2016 9:23pm
I'm a moron when you're the guy who said "use your next ten 1st rounder's until you get the QB?" The same guy who would draft a QB just to draft a QB and don't give me any "due diligence" shit because everyone here knows you have such a hard on for QB's that you'd take Geno Smith at #2 if he were the top QB in this year's draft. You would, in fact, draft a QB just to draft one....even if he had a late 1st round projection.SportsAndLady;1772903 wrote:BR is a moron. I'm convinced that guy is as dumb as the idiots who have ran this franchise into the ground since '99.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 3, 2016 9:28pm
Keep Gordon but ditch Manziel. I think Gordon's going to realize he can't screw up again. Keeping JFF on the roster only opens the door to temptation (for Gordon). That dude's (Manziel) a lost cause.like_that;1772946 wrote:I am ok with booting JFF, but getting rid of Gordon would be fucking stupid at this point. He wasn't a distracting like JFF is and he still has 2 years on his contract. The Browns have nothing to lose on that front.
The fact that JFF & Gordon were supposedly in contact on a regular basis made me nervous for any type of success Gordon would have to turn things around. Manziel, on the other hand, gives zero fucks about anything.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 3, 2016 9:30pm
I'd definitely keep Gordon. I'd love to see them make Johnny suffer and just sit since he's being a real bitch, but I'm sure they'll just trade him and get nothing.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2016 9:31pm
LolBR1986FB;1772960 wrote:I'm a moron when you're the guy who said "use your next ten 1st rounder's until you get the QB?" The same guy who would draft a QB just to draft a QB and don't give me any "due diligence" shit because everyone here knows you have such a hard on for QB's that you'd take Geno Smith at #2 if he were the top QB in this year's draft. You would, in fact, draft a QB just to draft one....even if he had a late 1st round projection.
And I would trade Geno Smith for Julio Jones...or wait, maybe I wouldn't? You're confusing me!
Just stop, BR. You're an embarrassment to this site.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Jan 3, 2016 9:38pm
I'm not sold on any QB at 2 this year...give me Bosa
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 3, 2016 9:38pm
I'm not embarrassing anyone. If anyone's embarrassed themselves, it's your major QB chubby where you'd take any QB who had a pulse.SportsAndLady;1772963 wrote:Lol
And I would trade Geno Smith for Julio Jones...or wait, maybe I wouldn't? You're confusing me!
Just stop, BR. You're an embarrassment to this site.
The people I know would trade Joe Thomas, in a heartbeat, for a 1st rounder but the problem is, nobody's going to give that for him. If someone offered it, you take it.
Maybe you can come up with the new Browns slogan since Pettine's gone? No more "play like a Brown." You can change it to "we're the Cleveland Browns....we have no playmakers, probably won't sniff the playoffs for the next 3+ years but boy we've sure got a sweet left tackle! Oh, and he'll probably retire here, having never played in a playoff game."
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Jan 3, 2016 9:45pm
Great game for HIM, then the team went winless the rest of the season.like_that;1772956 wrote:They beat Atlanta and Gordon had a great game his first game back. To place the blame on Gordon for the season going to shit is just ignorant.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 3, 2016 9:56pm
And the team had a great game since you know, they won the game.Gardens35;1772968 wrote:Great game for HIM, then the team went winless the rest of the season.
But yeah blame the losing streak on Gordon. Don't mind the fact the offense couldn't run the ball once Mack was injured, or please ignore the fact that Brian Hoyer couldn't throw for over 200 yards after that game. Yup, definitely attribute the losing streak to Gordon's return.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2016 10:06pm
Oh you mean I've got a QB Chubb in a league dominated by QB's?BR1986FB;1772965 wrote:I'm not embarrassing anyone. If anyone's embarrassed themselves, it's your major QB chubby where you'd take any QB who had a pulse.
The people I know would trade Joe Thomas, in a heartbeat, for a 1st rounder but the problem is, nobody's going to give that for him. If someone offered it, you take it.
Maybe you can come up with the new Browns slogan since Pettine's gone? No more "play like a Brown." You can change it to "we're the Cleveland Browns....we have no playmakers, probably won't sniff the playoffs for the next 3+ years but boy we've sure got a sweet left tackle! Oh, and he'll probably retire here, having never played in a playoff game."
Wow, how idiotic of me!
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jan 3, 2016 10:12pm
Looks like they're going to use Teryl Austin as the token black guy to meet the Rooney rule
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 3, 2016 10:16pm
Yes, please bring in the DC from a team with a shitty defense. That worked out pretty well with our last hire.
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Jan 3, 2016 10:19pm
I posted earlier that 2014 went to shit when Gordon returned, and it did. You disagree and I'm cool with that. I can't agree with those that believe that he is not a distraction.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 3, 2016 10:30pm
There is no top 5 qb in this draft, imoslingshot4ever;1772964 wrote:I'm not sold on any QB at 2 this year...give me Bosa