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Dec 14, 2015 6:21 PM
SportsAndLady;1769478 wrote:Either that or he was afraid to play and get another bad one in a meaningless season. Wouldn't blame him.
He would have to be throwing the tests on purpose then since he's still in the concussion protocol. I find that hard to believe. Doesn't mean I want him to come back this season, no reason to.
Dec 14, 2015 6:21pm
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Dec 14, 2015 6:32 PM
Thought maybe team was just shutting him down...didn't realize he was still on protocol.

Former Browns QB Hoyer with his 2nd concussion in a month...thinking he returned too soon.
Dec 14, 2015 6:32pm
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Dec 14, 2015 8:36 PM
Really excited to see how Manziel does against the Seahawks D.
Dec 14, 2015 8:36pm
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Dec 14, 2015 8:58 PM
Big measuring stick for Manziel.
Dec 14, 2015 8:58pm
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Dec 14, 2015 9:34 PM
I'm not so much "really excited", but I AM looking forward to it!
Dec 14, 2015 9:34pm
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Dec 15, 2015 12:36 AM
If we fall a couple of slots because JFF proves that he can play in this league I'm OK with that.
Dec 15, 2015 12:36am
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Dec 15, 2015 7:40 AM
Going to be a painful weekend for the Browns. Seattle is not SF JFF will find that out quickly.
Dec 15, 2015 7:40am
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Dec 15, 2015 7:48 AM
rrfan;1769558 wrote:Going to be a painful weekend for the Browns. Seattle is not SF JFF will find that out quickly.
Agreed. It's not so much that I don't believe he can make the throws as much as it is "can the receivers get open against the Seahawks secondary." I also expect the running game to go back to putrid and the Crow to come back to reality.

Seattle's defense is playing very well right now. I doubt the Browns will put up 10 points, on offense, in this one.
Dec 15, 2015 7:48am
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Dec 15, 2015 8:18 AM
Seahawks make a lot of good QB's look bad. Just like I'm not going to judge manziel after playing the lowly niners, I'm not going to judge him after playing the Seahawks.

Hopefully he plays well but I'm not expecting much.
Dec 15, 2015 8:18am
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Dec 15, 2015 8:38 AM
SportsAndLady;1769564 wrote:Seahawks make a lot of good QB's look bad. Just like I'm not going to judge manziel after playing the lowly niners, I'm not going to judge him after playing the Seahawks.

Hopefully he plays well but I'm not expecting much.
Unlike a certain individual on another thread who has already enshrined him, the expectations of Manziel in this game shouldn't be high. It would be nice to just see him progress and continue to improve.
Dec 15, 2015 8:38am
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Dec 15, 2015 10:42 AM
lhslep134;1769507 wrote:Really excited to see how Manziel does against the Seahawks D.
Don't get your hopes up. Manziel is still one of the worst QBs in the league.
Dec 15, 2015 10:42am
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Dec 15, 2015 10:47 AM
sleeper;1769588 wrote:Don't get your hopes up. Manziel is still one of the worst QBs in the league.
I have zero expectations of him. I'm excited because we can finally see if he's made any improvement. He's getting tested by a great defense and not whatever you want to call the Niners effort on Sunday.
Dec 15, 2015 10:47am
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Dec 15, 2015 12:25 PM
The line 14.5. That is all you need to know.
Dec 15, 2015 12:25pm
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Dec 15, 2015 12:49 PM
Sonofanump;1769603 wrote:The line 14.5. That is all you need to know.

That seems low based on the past 2 weeks.
Dec 15, 2015 12:49pm
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Dec 15, 2015 1:23 PM
Sonofanump;1769422 wrote:
15 Sun, Dec 20 @ New England 1:00 PM ET
16 Sun, Dec 27 Houston 1:00 PM ET
17 Sun, Jan 03 @ Indianapolis 1:00 PM ET
Tennessee: Houston and Indy could be winnable.
15 Sun, Dec 20 Miami 4:25 PM ET
16 Thu, Dec 24 @ Oakland 8:25 PM ET
17 Sun, Jan 03 @ Denver 4:25 PM ET
San Diego: Chance to win any of these three, if Denver has nothing to play for and rest starters.
San Diego is a 1 point favorite this week at home.
Dec 15, 2015 1:23pm
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Dec 15, 2015 1:47 PM
Mulva;1769610 wrote:That seems low based on the past 2 weeks.
Considering that in the losses since the Browns started 7-4 last year, their average margin of loss has been about 14 points, I'd agree.
Dec 15, 2015 1:47pm
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Dec 15, 2015 4:02 PM
lhslep134;1769589 wrote:I have zero expectations of him. I'm excited because we can finally see if he's made any improvement. He's getting tested by a great defense and not whatever you want to call the Niners effort on Sunday.
He's made zero improvement. He's not good.

I expect an absolute dismal, borderline trash performance from Manziel on Sunday. Beating the lowly 49er's is barely worth the breath to talk about how low of an accomplishment that is.
Dec 15, 2015 4:02pm
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Dec 15, 2015 6:05 PM
sleeper;1769634 wrote:He's made zero improvement.
This is such over the top bullshit. To say "zero" is preposterous.

I don't think he's their long term answer but if you can't see that he's improved from Tennessee to Pittsburgh to SF, you're blind. And it's obvious you didn't watch that Cincinnati debacle last year.

Granted, SF wasn't much of a test but his play could've been significantly worse. He's far from a "franchise QB" at this point but he has "improved."
Dec 15, 2015 6:05pm
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Dec 16, 2015 10:26 AM
BR1986FB;1769657 wrote:This is such over the top bullshit. To say "zero" is preposterous.

I don't think he's their long term answer but if you can't see that he's improved from Tennessee to Pittsburgh to SF, you're blind. And it's obvious you didn't watch that Cincinnati debacle last year.

Granted, SF wasn't much of a test but his play could've been significantly worse. He's far from a "franchise QB" at this point but he has "improved."
Improved from dog shit to potential backup is an improvement; however irrelevant to solving the Browns rotating door at QB.

Manziel is going to get his ass handed to him against the Seahawks. His "improvement" is a joke at best. He's not good, he will never be good, and if the Browns had any balls they'd cut him immediately.
Dec 16, 2015 10:26am
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Dec 16, 2015 10:41 AM
Well that's more than "zero" improvement. He may never be good enough to be an NFL starter but you at least have to give the guy his due that he has gotten better.
Dec 16, 2015 10:41am
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Dec 16, 2015 1:21 PM
BR1986FB;1769765 wrote:Well that's more than "zero" improvement. He may never be good enough to be an NFL starter but you at least have to give the guy his due that he has gotten better.
This isn't high school or college. Improving is useless.

Manziel sucks. Cut him.
Dec 16, 2015 1:21pm