jmog;1765309 wrote:Come on Boat, even you have to admit anytime a type of scrutiny even CLOSE to what Carson has endured already, came to Obama, it was IMMEDIATELY labeled as racist.

You know it, even if you won't admit it.

Carson has said some dumb things, but Obama also talked about visiting the 53 states and did the media hammer him for that? Nope, no one outside of Rush Limbaugh et al did.

See the problem is again that the right wing lives in a bubble wherein 20 million Limbaugh listeners think the rest of the country should behave like them. And say when the mainstream media does not destroy Obama when he says 57 States when he obviously meant to say 47 of the contiguous states and then made a joke about later on that day...you guys claim that is a slobbering love affair.

Sorry but Obama never said stupid shut like Joseph built the pyramids and Usbekibekibekistan and he wouldn't have lasted if he did.

And for what it is worth...it is the Jeb and Rubio backers grumbling behind the scenes about Carson and Trump lacking basic temperament to be President. The liberals are busy convincing themselves to vote for Hilldog and hoping Trump and Jeb take out Rubio.

Please proceed with the brain surgeon who could have used a little more philosophy.

P.S. here is a link to the context of Obummers 57 States gaffe.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp

cruiser_96;1765376 wrote:jmog: that's the issue as I see it.

MSM doesn't cover/scrutinize democrats like it does PUBs. So when media outlets do ask questions/probe, they are undercut and labeled "right-winged" and are distanced even further when MSM outlets villify and bully those individuals or groups that say anything questioning a dem.

You mistakenly believe the fake stories in the right wing media deserve media attention. In reality the mainstream media falls for these tricks all too often chasing the right wing ratings machine.

You blow off Obama's gaffs with an explanation and why the MSM gave him a complete pass but ignore the actual question I asked.

Even you you have to admit, that if anyone went after Obama like they are Carson now, they were immediately labeled as racist.

Also as a major deflection you give a snopes article about 57 Islamic states, which no one on this board was even claiming was said.

Did you copy/paste the wrong link? Or just trying to join the narrative that anyone criticizing Obama is either a racist, is calling him a Muslim, or both?

BoatShoes;1765396 wrote:Indeed governor's who implement conservative visions of government do fade rather quickly.

Okay. :laugh:

jmog;1765408 wrote:You blow off Obama's gaffs with an explanation and why the MSM gave him a complete pass but ignore the actual question I asked.

Even you you have to admit, that if anyone went after Obama like they are Carson now, they were immediately labeled as racist.

No Jmog. Critics of Obama were not universally labled as racist but your position is not falsifiable because of course some on the far left dismissed things like the birther movement as being rooted in racism...or the fact that when polled Americans would say Tony Blair seemed "More American" than Obama.

Even Obama himself has said that most opposition is not rooted in racism.

In other words Jmog only a small amount of those who have ObamaRage are racists. The majority of them are Yosemite Sam who love Brash talk and bluster while Obama is Bugs Bunny - a condescending foil that looks down on Yosemite.

Those of us outside the 20 million or so conservative bubble were saying "What maroons!" not "Dats Racist!"

jmog;1765411 wrote:Also as a major deflection you give a snopes article about 57 Islamic states, which no one on this board was even claiming was said.

Did you copy/paste the wrong link? Or just trying to join the narrative that anyone criticizing Obama is either a racist, is calling him a Muslim, or both?

Jeez I can see that reading is still hard for our resident scientist. The sniper article contains and explains the context of the 57 States remark. The Islamic element was just one small part of it that I did not bring up and I never claimed you were calling him a muslim or racist.

I simply provided it so that you could read the context of the 57 States remark and realize that it was not even on the same plane of stupidity as these things the GOP front runners believe and say. Because so many singers raise this point about 57 States it is evident they hear about it in there sort of strange newsletters as opposed to knowing the real context and that Obummer himself made a joke about the gaffe.

This is not that difficult. There was no deflection. Hope that helps.

BoatShoes;1765452 wrote:Jeez I can see that reading is still hard for our resident scientist. The sniper article contains and explains the context of the 57 States remark. The Islamic element was just one small part of it that I did not bring up and I never claimed you were calling him a muslim or racist.

The "context" was hastily added after the fact by you people to try and minimize the #faceplant.

BoatShoes;1765452 wrote:I simply provided it so that you could read the context of the 57 States remark and realize that it was not even on the same plane of stupidity as these things the GOP front runners believe and say.

Probably true...which will make it even more funny in 14 months when one of them is standing there with his hand on the Bible.

fish82;1765462 wrote:The "context" was hastily added after the fact by you people to try and minimize the #faceplant.



Probably true...which will make it even more funny in 14 months when one of them is standing there with his hand on the Bible.

You could make some cash money in the prediction markets with that confidence.

BoatShoes;1765399 wrote:See the problem is again that the right wing lives in a bubble wherein 20 million Limbaugh listeners think the rest of the country should behave like them. And say when the mainstream media does not destroy Obama when he says 57 States when he obviously meant to say 47 of the contiguous states and then made a joke about later on that day...you guys claim that is a slobbering love affair.

Sorry but Obama never said stupid shut like Joseph built the pyramids and Usbekibekibekistan and he wouldn't have lasted if he did.

And for what it is worth...it is the Jeb and Rubio backers grumbling behind the scenes about Carson and Trump lacking basic temperament to be President. The liberals are busy convincing themselves to vote for Hilldog and hoping Trump and Jeb take out Rubio.

Please proceed with the brain surgeon who could have used a little more philosophy.

P.S. here is a link to the context of Obummers 57 States gaffe.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp

obama can't tell the difference between an ally and a muslim terrorist, obviously he would have trouble with the number of states in the union.

BoatShoes;1765452 wrote:Jeez I can see that reading is still hard for our resident scientist. The sniper article contains and explains the context of the 57 States remark. The Islamic element was just one small part of it that I did not bring up and I never claimed you were calling him a muslim or racist.

I simply provided it so that you could read the context of the 57 States remark and realize that it was not even on the same plane of stupidity as these things the GOP front runners believe and say. Because so many singers raise this point about 57 States it is evident they hear about it in there sort of strange newsletters as opposed to knowing the real context and that Obummer himself made a joke about the gaffe.

This is not that difficult. There was no deflection. Hope that helps.

Typical Boat, right to the ad hominem. It has become your staple, so just stick with it.

The "context" was added, like fish said, after the fact to minimize the gaff.

You are right on one thing, Obama is not on the same plane as Carson in the intellectual department. I would still take Obama over Hillary or Sanders however, God help us if either of them get elected.

Ted Cruz’s long-anticipated Iowa surge came a step closer on Tuesday with a new poll showing him just behind Donald J. Trump and leaping ahead of Ben Carson, as terrorism and foreign policy now drive the 2016 nominating race.
Mr. Cruz, the Republican Texas senator, was the choice of 23 percent of likely Republican caucusgoers in the new poll, from Quinnipiac University, following Mr. Trump at 25 percent and ahead of Mr. Carson at 18 percent. Senator Marco Rubio of Florida was in fourth with 13 percent. The margin of error was plus or minus four percentage points.



I would take Cruz/Rubio in a heartbeat

QuakerOats;1765490 wrote:...

I would take Cruz/Rubio in a heartbeat

That's because you're a racist.

Wait a minute...

No, I'm a redneck neocon member of the vast right wing conspiracy

QuakerOats;1765533 wrote:No, I'm a redneck neocon member of the vast right wing conspiracy

Clinging, I'm just sure of it, to your guns and bible.

yes, out here in fly-over country with a herd of cattle, and one wife (opposite sex) of 40 years.