
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 19, 2015 5:28pm
Yeah, my grandma is into slot machines. She's 77.
Casinos can be fun with a group of friends. I'll occasionally enjoy table games, but daily donating is straight degenerate behavior. I grew up near a racetrack/casino. It's fucking awful.
Casinos can be fun with a group of friends. I'll occasionally enjoy table games, but daily donating is straight degenerate behavior. I grew up near a racetrack/casino. It's fucking awful.

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Nov 19, 2015 5:30pm
If I won $5k-10K right now I'd probably just save it up and use it for my to Vegas next summer.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 19, 2015 6:50pm
Only have a mortgage from a debt standpoint and good on our savings. With a little one, would probably blow it on a week at Disney World. Would be worth the big smile on her face.

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Nov 19, 2015 8:54pm
My 2001 Camry is running out of steam. I would put it towards a new car.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 20, 2015 7:58am
I'd take my 5k to NEO and buy one of the nicer homes in the area and let an unemployed person and his family live in it.

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 20, 2015 8:06am
100% Bills
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hilliardfan
Posts: 193
Nov 20, 2015 9:34am
At least with the slots there is a chance of winning!sleeper;1764605 wrote:All this time and hassle to go to casinos to sit and play slots; attending a Browns game too much hassle.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 20, 2015 9:46am
Track your wins and losses (actual $$$ in and out of your pocket), and if you are on the plus side or comfortable losing more, then move up in stakes.
So depends on how much you gamble. That $5-$10k might go straight into topping off my gambling "reserves".
So depends on how much you gamble. That $5-$10k might go straight into topping off my gambling "reserves".
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 20, 2015 9:58am
Agreed. You have to know when not to get "stupid" and walk away on the plus side.gut;1764715 wrote:Track your wins and losses (actual $$$ in and out of your pocket), and if you are on the plus side or comfortable losing more, then move up in stakes.
There is an older lady at one of the casinos we play at who has a "marker." Essentially, she's borrowing money to gamble on, from the casino, at a high interest rate. The casino is pretty much a loan shark, in this case.
She told us one time her marker was "$30,000 and if she didn't hit something soon, she was going to have to sell one of her rental properties to pay it off." We once saw her hit a $19k progressive and an $8k handpay in one night and she signed the money back to the casino to pay her marker. If she didn't pay off the marker within 30 days, they zapped it from her husbands checking account. I'd be pissed if I were her spouse and saw $30k missing from one of my accounts. As a side note, this lady looks like she has aged 10 years since we first met her in 2013.
There's no fun in that. Going to the casino was pretty much a no fun "job" to her because she didn't keep any of her winnings. Pretty pathetic, imo.
power i
Posts: 1,296
Nov 20, 2015 10:05am
My kids would have a very good Christmas.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 20, 2015 10:15am
If its slots, that $5k-10k is going straight back to the casino.gut;1764715 wrote:Track your wins and losses (actual $$$ in and out of your pocket), and if you are on the plus side or comfortable losing more, then move up in stakes.
So depends on how much you gamble. That $5-$10k might go straight into topping off my gambling "reserves".
The reality is, anytime you are playing against the house over the long run you are going to lose. Poker might be an exception, maybe black jack if you play in teams and card count; but there's no way anyone can convince me that someone who regularly plays slots at a casino has a positive ROI.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 20, 2015 10:33am
Yeah casinos aren't operating to lose money to someone (or everyone) over time. They operate to pay out a lucky person once, and hope everyone sees that THEY CAN BE THE LUCKY WINNER TOO! And then they lose.
They aren't there to lose money.
They aren't there to lose money.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 20, 2015 12:23pm
I enjoy video poker on occasion. If you know the payouts, you typically get 98-99% payout with perfect play. With a little luck, you can get up a decent bit over the short-run (of course, the opposite happens, too). Some machines, though they are hard to find, actually have 101% payout so you CAN win in the long-run playing only those machines.sleeper;1764727 wrote:If its slots, that $5k-10k is going straight back to the casino.
For other people, 98-99% win with comps can bring them out ahead...assuming you value comps and want to spend them on dinners, shows, etc at that casino.
I've probably hovered around break-even on video poker. I enjoy it, and if I lose $20 over an hour of play that beats the pants off any table game (except poker).
You can beat blackjack, too, with very good cash management. I'm not good at that because I enjoy playing too much, but knowing when to walk away to max your gains and minimize your losses is how you come out [a little] ahead. If you want to win some real money, then it's about card counting and you're going to start getting hit with huge volatility.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 20, 2015 12:29pm
True. But video poker and blackjack, and to lesser extent craps, can be beaten, except most people aren't skilled enough or patient enough to do so. And for every 1 person that can do so, the casino makes 100X that off everyone else failing at the same strategies.SportsAndLady;1764730 wrote:Yeah casinos aren't operating to lose money to someone (or everyone) over time. They operate to pay out a lucky person once, and hope everyone sees that THEY CAN BE THE LUCKY WINNER TOO! And then they lose.
They aren't there to lose money.
Casinos LOVE all these tips and strategy books, even though some of it actually works because it brings people in to lose money. It's all about cash management and bet sizing - that's the key to tilting a slight house edge the opposite way slightly into your favor.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 20, 2015 4:16pm
Except if you want the comps, you have to register for their casino card that tracks your winnings. If you consistently are winning, they will ban you from their casino.gut;1764746 wrote:I enjoy video poker on occasion. If you know the payouts, you typically get 98-99% payout with perfect play. With a little luck, you can get up a decent bit over the short-run (of course, the opposite happens, too). Some machines, though they are hard to find, actually have 101% payout so you CAN win in the long-run playing only those machines.
For other people, 98-99% win with comps can bring them out ahead...assuming you value comps and want to spend them on dinners, shows, etc at that casino.
I've probably hovered around break-even on video poker. I enjoy it, and if I lose $20 over an hour of play that beats the pants off any table game (except poker).
You can beat blackjack, too, with very good cash management. I'm not good at that because I enjoy playing too much, but knowing when to walk away to max your gains and minimize your losses is how you come out [a little] ahead. If you want to win some real money, then it's about card counting and you're going to start getting hit with huge volatility.
My reality point still stands.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Nov 20, 2015 4:53pm
Yep ---- buy a Y-town dump, insure it for $50k, and when the renters burn it down, pocket $45k.Tiernan;1764700 wrote:I'd take my 5k to NEO and buy one of the nicer homes in the area and let an unemployed person and his family live in it.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 20, 2015 6:57pm
Yeah, but there are A LOT of casinos. And you have to get up pretty big before you even appear on the radar. They even have a name for it - advantage players - and it's something they manage. They just lower the payouts and advantage players self-ban.sleeper;1764800 wrote:Except if you want the comps, you have to register for their casino card that tracks your winnings. If you consistently are winning, they will ban you from their casino.
My reality point still stands.

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Nov 20, 2015 7:06pm
I bought my first ever scratch off today to make change and won $20. Gonna spend it at Chipotle here in a few minutes.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 20, 2015 8:58pm
Hope you don't get E. coli.GOONx19;1764825 wrote:I bought my first ever scratch off today to make change and won $20. Gonna spend it at Chipotle here in a few minutes.

dontcare
Posts: 425
Nov 20, 2015 9:30pm
I'd buy more firearms and ammo.
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hilliardfan
Posts: 193
Dec 16, 2015 2:02pm
That's a bigger gamble than buying lottery tickets!

dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Dec 16, 2015 4:53pm
Since my bills are paid and my savings is in good shape, I'd party like Lamar Odom at the bunny ranch.

Chesapeake
Posts: 1,603
Dec 29, 2015 4:10am
I would spend it.

salto
Posts: 2,611
Dec 30, 2015 10:38am
Replace the timing chain. Maybe the head gasket too, along with a basic tune up. That car should last forever unless you drive it hard.GOONx19;1764672 wrote:My 2001 Camry is running out of steam. I would put it towards a new car.
I'd buy another yr.2000 (and before) Jeep Cherokee. You can't have too many.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 30, 2015 11:25am
He's earned himself a new Camrysalto;1771989 wrote:Replace the timing chain. Maybe the head gasket too, along with a basic tune up. That car should last forever unless you drive it hard.
I'd buy another yr.2000 (and before) Jeep Cherokee. You can't have too many.