Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 13, 2015 9:11pm
Good. That should stop all of the ill will. We'll have peace soon!gut;1763080 wrote:France President promising "to lead a war, it will be pitiless"...so looks like we will be putting real boots, in meaningful numbers, back on the ground soon.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 13, 2015 9:15pm
we need to close our borders now
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Nov 13, 2015 9:20pm
Oddly enough the airport is still operating. The issue will be getting there, though.Tiernan;1763075 wrote:Been dealing with this all night...my second wife and middle daughter are in Paris tonight. They are OK - about 30 blocks from the stadium blast. They were scheduled to come home tomorrow but I doubt flights will be leaving anytime soon. Embassy is asking all Americans to check in with them and let them know where they are.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 13, 2015 9:26pm
Ironic, since their open mass immigration policies certainly doesn't make it very hard for any terrorists to enter his country.gut;1763080 wrote:France President promising "to lead a war, it will be pitiless"...so looks like we will be putting real boots, in meaningful numbers, back on the ground soon.
That said, my heart goes out to the 150+ murdered, as well as the police killed trying to save the hostages at the concert hall.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 13, 2015 10:57pm
Not the time to let our petty political differences distract us from the terrible, tragic events tonite. We will do what we have to do to stop this menace.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 13, 2015 11:28pm
Holy fuck. I knew this thread was going to bring out the Politishits, but that was earlier than I anticipated.
Guys, could you please ... just this once ... maybe not turn a thread involving current events into a political shit fit? Just this one time. Please. I swear, I won't ask again.
I have a friend in Paris, and I can't find any mutual acquaintances who have spoken to him. We're not super close or anything, but it's still troubling that nobody can get a hold of him.
Guys, could you please ... just this once ... maybe not turn a thread involving current events into a political shit fit? Just this one time. Please. I swear, I won't ask again.
I have a friend in Paris, and I can't find any mutual acquaintances who have spoken to him. We're not super close or anything, but it's still troubling that nobody can get a hold of him.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 13, 2015 11:36pm
Glad they are OK. And hope they get back home soon.Tiernan;1763075 wrote:Been dealing with this all night...my second wife and middle daughter are in Paris tonight. They are OK - about 30 blocks from the stadium blast. They were scheduled to come home tomorrow but I doubt flights will be leaving anytime soon. Embassy is asking all Americans to check in with them and let them know where they are.
Hoping for good news for you. Fucking terrible that shit like this happens. Just makes me sick to my stomach.O-Trap;1763103 wrote: I have a friend in Paris, and I can't find any mutual acquaintances who have spoken to him. We're not super close or anything, but it's still troubling that nobody can get a hold of him.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Nov 13, 2015 11:40pm
Lets keep the politard shit out of this thread. Feel free to start a thread in that Forum if you can't control your need to some how blame Obama for this. Or if you must tell us that guns are the root of all evil.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 13, 2015 11:49pm
He just checked in. He, his wife, and his family are all safe.sherm03;1763104 wrote:Hoping for good news for you. Fucking terrible that shit like this happens. Just makes me sick to my stomach.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 13, 2015 11:54pm
I'm glad to hear that loved ones are safe....I cannot imagine the anxiety.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 14, 2015 12:14am
Thanks. Yeah, I'm glad he's safe. I'm hoping he gets outta Dodge until things cool down.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 14, 2015 1:23am
You're a piece of shit if your immediate thought on this is politics.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 14, 2015 2:37am
My daughter and Ex have left downtown Paris and are on their way via cab to DeGaulle Airport. American says flights are "delayed but operating". Those two have been thru a night of Hell - anxiety wise - and are wrung out. Using the "What's App" communication tool but it's really not great w/o strong wifi connection and it seems either towers are overloaded or damaged because we've had great comm up until last night. Now it's pretty much text with no voice calls. But they are OK and thats all that matters and should hopefully be in NYC by 4:00 today. Fingers crossed.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 14, 2015 5:30am
Well, this is political but non-partisan....how in hell did BOTH French and American intelligence services miss this?SportsAndLady;1763119 wrote:You're a piece of shit if your immediate thought on this is politics.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Nov 14, 2015 7:11am
That's great to hear.Tiernan;1763121 wrote:My daughter and Ex have left downtown Paris and are on their way via cab to DeGaulle Airport. American says flights are "delayed but operating". Those two have been thru a night of Hell - anxiety wise - and are wrung out. Using the "What's App" communication tool but it's really not great w/o strong wifi connection and it seems either towers are overloaded or damaged because we've had great comm up until last night. Now it's pretty much text with no voice calls. But they are OK and thats all that matters and should hopefully be in NYC by 4:00 today. Fingers crossed.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Nov 14, 2015 8:11am
Isn't one a critical subset of the other?Commander of Awesome;1763067 wrote:You turned into a guns rights debate, not a political what to do about terrorist debate. Nice spin fail though.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 14, 2015 8:13am
Delayed way beyond any chance to catch scheduled connect back to Cbus but they are on their way to Philly now not NYC.
Daughter is thankful for the cab driver that showed up at the hotel at the designated time even though Parisians were told to stay home unless they are "essential public workers". Here's the twist...cabbie was Muslim and apologized for those that did this. Crazy fkg world we are living in today people...you think you know the enemy and then something totally surprises you.
Daughter is thankful for the cab driver that showed up at the hotel at the designated time even though Parisians were told to stay home unless they are "essential public workers". Here's the twist...cabbie was Muslim and apologized for those that did this. Crazy fkg world we are living in today people...you think you know the enemy and then something totally surprises you.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Nov 14, 2015 8:42am
I have friends in Paris, Germany and UK, we skype early this morning. They are very concerned that more of the same will be an taking place in other Europian capitials and events.
My friend in the UK said that this is the blueprint of things to come.
When only the bad guys have guns every event, gathering and public access is a soft target for crazy and terroist. If just one armed citizen returned fire how many lives would have been saved in that music hall .... 15 minutes before the first armed swat police entered the music hall building. 15 minutes
note: that was the comment of my friend in the UK
i think many citizens in gun free countries are rethinking
My friend in the UK said that this is the blueprint of things to come.
When only the bad guys have guns every event, gathering and public access is a soft target for crazy and terroist. If just one armed citizen returned fire how many lives would have been saved in that music hall .... 15 minutes before the first armed swat police entered the music hall building. 15 minutes
note: that was the comment of my friend in the UK
i think many citizens in gun free countries are rethinking
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 14, 2015 8:54am
The band playing at the club was an American Metal band - the gunmen went there specifically thinking Americans would be in attendance.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 14, 2015 8:58am
Well Tiernan, I give you a lot of shit, but I am glad to see your family is safe. I am sorry they had to go through that, just fucking horrible.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 14, 2015 9:35am
My understanding is that France was under the highest level of alert.gut;1763125 wrote:Well, this is political but non-partisan....how in hell did BOTH French and American intelligence services miss this?
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Nov 14, 2015 9:53am
Lets hope so. It was a huge mistake to let abject evil carve out a piece of geography and set up a government.gut;1763080 wrote:France President promising "to lead a war, it will be pitiless"...so looks like we will be putting real boots, in meaningful numbers, back on the ground soon.
I was looking at a satellite image of Raqqa, Syria in a news story about where Jihadi John was killed in a drone strike. I had to ask myself why has this place (capital of the Islamic state) not been reduced to complete rubble.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 14, 2015 9:57am
HighRoller74;1763105 wrote:Lets keep the politard shit out of this thread. Feel free to start a thread in that Forum if you can't control your need to some how blame Obama for this. Or if you must tell us that guns are the root of all evil.
Belly35;1763131 wrote:If just one armed citizen returned fire how many lives would have been saved in that music hall .... 15 minutes before the first armed swat police entered the music hall building. 15 minutes
note: that was the comment of my friend in the UK
i think many citizens in gun free countries are rethinking
Please learn how to read Belly. I don't know if you can't, or won't.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Nov 14, 2015 10:03am
You are going to see a swing to the political "right". I have read reports (not confirmed) that these killers were speaking fluent French. If that is the case even more so as it will be apparent that these migrants are radicalizing their children right under the noses of European governments.Commander of Awesome;1763067 wrote:I would also think that this is gonna have a huge impact on the migrant crisis i think.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 14, 2015 10:37am
No shit. What sort of operations commander would design a foreign attack and not use terrorists who speak the native language?? those terrorists were likely in country for a while. ISIS isn't fucking around.majorspark;1763137 wrote: I have read reports (not confirmed) that these killers were speaking fluent French.