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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2015 11:34am
Didn't hear about it until last night. Somebody told me about it. Contrary to your (and others) belief, I don't go looking for this type of shit.Commander of Awesome;1758295 wrote:I've been waiting for you to post about this. Rumor has been out since Sunday, surprised it took you so long to post about it.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 21, 2015 11:35am
Well unlike the Gordon rumors (which ended up being right smfh) I'm pretty confident the haden rumors are total BS. Although the way he's been playing not sure it matters.BR1986FB;1758297 wrote:Didn't hear about it until last night. Somebody told me about it. Contrary to your (and others) belief, I don't go looking for this type of shit.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2015 11:38am
I'd be completely floored if the Haden rumors were true. If they were, he's pulled one of the biggest snow jobs over the city in some time.Commander of Awesome;1758299 wrote:Well unlike the Gordon rumors (which ended up being right smfh) I'm pretty confident the haden rumors are total BS. Although the way he's been playing not sure it matters.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Oct 22, 2015 12:38pm
as i recall Aaron Rodgers was a first round pick and didnt play for at least 3 seasonsFootwedge;1758048 wrote:Any other coach in the NFL would be playing their number one draft choice except this buffoon masquerading as a head coach. Has absolutely nothing to do with McCown beating out Manziel. You buy into the bullshit...lemmings.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Oct 22, 2015 12:41pm
we have a winnerBR1986FB;1758023 wrote:I'm just sick of hearing the "Johnny this, Johnny that" bullshit when the guy isn't even good enough, or smart enough, to beat out a 36 year old journeyman. I fell for the Johnny "hype machine" when he was drafted and hoped for better but I don't see this guy being committed to any type of "team" philosophy. Like I said before, if he's Aaron Rodgers, you deal with the headaches but, at this point, I'm not sure he's even "Mr Rogers" as far as his playing ability goes.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Oct 22, 2015 1:03pm
Do you mean like the Brown played Quinn , Couch, William Green, T-Rich, Winslow, Edwards, Kam Wimbley, Gerrard Warren, Weeden? how did that work out?Footwedge;1758048 wrote:Any other coach in the NFL would be playing their number one draft choice except this buffoon masquerading as a head coach. Has absolutely nothing to do with McCown beating out Manziel. You buy into the bullshit...lemmings.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 22, 2015 4:34pm
The Aaron Rodgers argument is always a great one because he was a 24th pick of a team that had their own pick. This means they were a playoff team. It's very, very easy for a team in that situation to not play their first round pick. People act like Rodgers was a sure-fire stud starter who was ready day 1 out of college and who the coaching staff turned down the temptation to play for 3 years.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Oct 22, 2015 5:05pm
Are you trying to make a point here? LOL. Makes no fuggin difference what happened with flops. You play your first round draft pick at quarterback. It's what you do. Is Bortles playing? Bridgewater? Carr? Winston? Mariota? Cueball wants to carry on with a 36 year old choke artist in the clutch who is 2-14 as a starter over the past 2 years.KnightRyder;1758442 wrote:Do you mean like the Brown played Quinn , Couch, William Green, T-Rich, Winslow, Edwards, Kam Wimbley, Gerrard Warren, Weeden? how did that work out?
Cueball will be hard pressed to land a d coordinator gig next year.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 22, 2015 5:36pm
Sounds like a good chance they will be without Haden (concussion) for a second week in a row.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 22, 2015 5:39pm
Addition by subtraction based on Haden's play this season.BR1986FB;1758533 wrote:Sounds like a good chance they will be without Haden (concussion) for a second week in a row.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 22, 2015 5:44pm
Was surprised to hear that some analyst said Mitchell Schwartz is "playing at a very high level." If JT's a first ballot HOFer, Bitonio's a "beast", Mack's a "perennial Pro Bowl center" and Schwartz is playing like that, why the FUCK can't they punch the GD ball in from the one on first & goal? Jesus...
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Oct 22, 2015 5:44pm
The players you listed put in the time to learn the offense and are not trainwrecks off the field.Footwedge;1758517 wrote:Are you trying to make a point here? LOL. Makes no fuggin difference what happened with flops. You play your first round draft pick at quarterback. It's what you do. Is Bortles playing? Bridgewater? Carr? Winston? Mariota? Cueball wants to carry on with a 36 year old choke artist in the clutch who is 2-14 as a starter over the past 2 years.
Cueball will be hard pressed to land a d coordinator gig next year.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 22, 2015 5:56pm
I first thought this as well, then I thought about it. Mack ain't the mack we saw last few seasons. He's not playing as well. Then Greco, he's avg at best. Pisses me off that Erving can't take that spot from him. Then I think about our shrimps at WR trying to block. After watching them block on WR screens, I can tell you they cant block shit. All that, plus teams not respecting our passing game, equals shitty running game.BR1986FB;1758538 wrote:Was surprised to hear that some analyst said Mitchell Schwartz is "playing at a very high level." If JT's a first ballot HOFer, Bitonio's a "beast", Mack's a "perennial Pro Bowl center" and Schwartz is playing like that, why the FUCK can't they punch the GD ball in from the one on first & goal? Jesus...
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Oct 22, 2015 8:28pm
so you believe the Browns should play another first round flop.Footwedge;1758517 wrote:Are you trying to make a point here? LOL. Makes no fuggin difference what happened with flops. You play your first round draft pick at quarterback. It's what you do. Is Bortles playing? Bridgewater? Carr? Winston? Mariota? Cueball wants to carry on with a 36 year old choke artist in the clutch who is 2-14 as a starter over the past 2 years.
Cueball will be hard pressed to land a d coordinator gig next year.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 22, 2015 8:55pm
I think the Browns win something like 30-20 and keep the McCown train going...which I feel is unfortunate
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Oct 22, 2015 9:02pm
"I say we let him go".....
All this shit reminds me of Pee Wee slammed on the pool table in the biker bar.
Cueing Gardens.
All this shit reminds me of Pee Wee slammed on the pool table in the biker bar.
Cueing Gardens.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 22, 2015 9:14pm
I think the Browns will be hard pressed to stay on the field with the Rams this week.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 22, 2015 9:25pm
Rams are an average team...no reason it shouldn't be a competitive game.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 22, 2015 11:55pm
It's the Browns, not the steelers.Ironman92;1758574 wrote:Rams are an average team...no reason it shouldn't be a competitive game.
Uz2Bon36
Posts: 1,135
Oct 23, 2015 6:37am
Also the dude who was starting when Rodgers was drafted was pretty decent, too.Azubuike24;1758509 wrote:The Aaron Rodgers argument is always a great one because he was a 24th pick of a team that had their own pick. This means they were a playoff team. It's very, very easy for a team in that situation to not play their first round pick. People act like Rodgers was a sure-fire stud starter who was ready day 1 out of college and who the coaching staff turned down the temptation to play for 3 years.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2015 7:50am
I don't think Mack is fully recovered plus I think he kinda already has one foot out the door.Commander of Awesome;1758541 wrote:I first thought this as well, then I thought about it. Mack ain't the mack we saw last few seasons. He's not playing as well. Then Greco, he's avg at best. Pisses me off that Erving can't take that spot from him. Then I think about our shrimps at WR trying to block. After watching them block on WR screens, I can tell you they cant block shit. All that, plus teams not respecting our passing game, equals shitty running game.
Agree on Erving. It's always good to have O-Line depth but it pisses me off that it seems like Farmer made that pick in anticipation of Mack bolting in FA and he can't even crack the starting lineup?
Unless you're a potential franchise QB, sitting & learning behind a seasoned vet, you should be starting if you're a 1st rounder.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 23, 2015 11:32am
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Oct 23, 2015 12:17pm
Commander of Awesome;1758652 wrote:Dgaf, just win.
http://www.si.com/thecauldron/2015/10/21/mike-pettine-cleveland-browns-defense-problems-afc-north
Fire them all Jimmy.the Browns are so worried about you figuring out their cards, they wind up putting certain players in the wrong position.
This is what happens when you hand over your team over to guys that really cut their teeth on the High school football level as Pettine/O'Neil did. Mike Sr. is the only Pettine in the family with any talent, and he has been retired for years now.
Can anyone name any great defense that was wildly pre-occupied with playing games out there instead of just enforcing their will on you?
That passive bullshit reactive approach is a loser mentality. Go out there and force the issue making other teams have to adjust to what you're doing. Be proactive for once and good things will happen.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Oct 23, 2015 3:50pm
Pettine led defenses against the run the past 4 years (3 different teams):Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN 30m 30 minutes ago "We don't teach defense like a golf swing put your hand here, your thumb here" - Pettine re: @ Mr_KevinJones SI story on D players struggling
Channel 3 Sports ‏ @ WKYCSports 31m 31 minutes ago
Pettine: we've been running these calls since before Cleveland. This is day one install stuff # 3Browns # Browns @ wkyc
2012: 26th
2013: 28th
2014: 32nd
2015: 32nd
His arrogance will end up being his demise. He is either unable or unwilling to accept his "system" isn't working no matter what group of personnel he has access to.
When you keep failing no matter where you are chances are pretty good it might be you that is the problem.
Mike just can't seem to bear the thought he's not the genius he thinks he is.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Oct 23, 2015 5:01pm
At this point I don't think it's a talent problem I think it's a scheme/coaching problem
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