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Oct 17, 2015 11:54pm
sportswizuhrd;1757515 wrote:What does last year have anything to do with this year? Marcus Mariotta still the best player in College Football in your eyes?
No. Zeek is the best college football player and hence the best RB in college football. There is no doubt.
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Oct 19, 2015 10:26am
I've changed my tune. I want JT full time now. He's runs the read option like a boss and with the personnel we have, that's where the offense shines. Love Jones, but fuck it. The traditional drop back style isn't getting it done. I don't want anymore rotating moving forward. Start JT.
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Oct 19, 2015 10:30am
sportswizuhrd;1757509 wrote:Fournette, Cook and Henry and then Elliott
All these backs are really good but Zeke and Fournette are much better than Cook and Henry (SEC Fan?)
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Tiernan
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Oct 19, 2015 11:08am
Without a legit deep threat WR (Thomas is still developing) the starter has to be Barrett. Urbie and I will be talking later today and I'll make sure he goes with this format.
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Oct 19, 2015 12:45pm
Tiernan;1757864 wrote:Without a legit deep threat WR (Thomas is still developing) the starter has to be Barrett. Urbie and I will be talking later today and I'll make sure he goes with this format.
While your at it, can you tell him to stop playing Cam Williams....please and thank you


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Oct 19, 2015 12:50pm
A friend mentioned their is talk of Gibson leaving the team?

Not happy with playing time, walked out of practice the other day, and wasn't dressed Saturday. If that's the case....2 fingers.
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Oct 19, 2015 12:57pm
Automatik;1757880 wrote:A friend mentioned their is talk of Gibson leaving the team?

Not happy with playing time, walked out of practice the other day, and wasn't dressed Saturday. If that's the case....2 fingers.
Read today that academic 'troubles' kept him from dressing on Saturday.
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Oct 19, 2015 1:00pm
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2015/10/ohio_state_football_urban_meye_18.html

Yup. I agree with the last sentence. Just redshirt him.
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Oct 19, 2015 1:29pm
Gibson will be redshirted.

JT will probably be the new starter. The offense seems to run a little smoother with JT taking snaps rather than Cardale.

I still think Cardale is the better QB but JT seems to fit the current system better.
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Oct 19, 2015 1:52pm
sleeper;1757887 wrote:Gibson will be redshirted.

JT will probably be the new starter. The offense seems to run a little smoother with JT taking snaps rather than Cardale.

I still think Cardale is the better QB but JT seems to fit the current system better.
What makes you think Dale is the better qb? He graded out at -2.3 on Saturday and Hackenburg who we'd all agree is garbage graded at -2.5. He can't take the pressure of having someone standing behind him better and it's obvious.


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Oct 19, 2015 2:35pm
Better in terms of the NFL? Yes, I agree, but not for this team. I was all about Cardale being the guy, but he doesn't have the brains or the ball handling ability to run the read option like Barrett.
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Oct 19, 2015 2:51pm
During yesterday, everything seemed more smooth with Barrett running the offense. He just needs the confidence to air it out a bit more like he was last year, as I don't know if the "between me and Zeke, one of us is running the ball!" plan will work against everyone like it did Saturday.
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Tiernan
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Oct 19, 2015 3:38pm
Urbie said its a done deal, as for Cam Williams - he's still in there.
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Oct 19, 2015 4:03pm
lakeflyerMike;1757890 wrote:What makes you think Dale is the better qb? He graded out at -2.3 on Saturday and Hackenburg who we'd all agree is garbage graded at -2.5. He can't take the pressure of having someone standing behind him better and it's obvious.


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He had a bad game. It happens.

I wouldn't say someone's a future HOFer if he has one great game so I probably wouldn't post what you posted after he's had a bad one.

I would be okay with JT starting mainly because he does seem to fit this offense better than Cardale. But Cardale is by no means "bad" or "bad because he has someone behind him and he can't take the pressure."
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Oct 19, 2015 4:28pm
SportsAndLady;1757905 wrote:He had a bad game. It happens.

I wouldn't say someone's a future HOFer if he has one great game so I probably wouldn't post what you posted after he's had a bad one.

I would be okay with JT starting mainly because he does seem to fit this offense better than Cardale. But Cardale is by no means "bad" or "bad because he has someone behind him and he can't take the pressure."
That's a perfect example of fans trying to make drama out of nothing. From day one of this so-called "QB battle" both have been all class when asked to discuss the topic.
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Oct 19, 2015 5:22pm
Heretic;1757896 wrote:I don't know if the "between me and Zeke, one of us is running the ball!" plan will work against everyone like it did Saturday.
I agree here. Psu has a pretty good defense, so maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know if 30 yards passing is enough from our qb. (And JT did have a monster year last year so I won't be shocked if he can do it again.)
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Oct 19, 2015 5:23pm
Automatik;1757908 wrote:That's a perfect example of fans trying to make drama out of nothing. From day one of this so-called "QB battle" both have been all class when asked to discuss the topic.
Both QBs have been nothing but class. I'm curious to see Cardale's attitude if JT is named the starter but JT handled it very well.
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Oct 19, 2015 7:21pm
Gtfo with all this Cardale is better crap. Barrett will be a better NFL QB because he has something called touch. Cardale just tries to beam the ball in every single time
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Oct 19, 2015 7:40pm
Classyposter58;1757929 wrote:Gtfo with all this Cardale is better crap. Barrett will be a better NFL QB because he has something called touch. Cardale just tries to beam the ball in every single time
The mac has spoken
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Oct 19, 2015 8:37pm
At least he's consistent....consistently full of shit.

Calvin Johnson, current best receiver in the NFL. :laugh:
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Oct 19, 2015 8:48pm
lakeflyerMike;1757890 wrote:What makes you think Dale is the better qb? He graded out at -2.3 on Saturday and Hackenburg who we'd all agree is garbage graded at -2.5. He can't take the pressure of having someone standing behind him better and it's obvious.


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Where do you find these grades?
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Oct 19, 2015 8:57pm
like_that;1757943 wrote:Where do you find these grades?
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/10/18/osu-psu-grades-barrett-excels-under-center-for-buckeyes/


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Oct 19, 2015 9:06pm
Shit I didn't realize pff grades out college games.