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Azubuike24

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Nov 22, 2015 4:58 PM
I meant Baylor!
Nov 22, 2015 4:58pm
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Nov 23, 2015 1:48 PM
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Oklahoma
4. Notre Dame
5. Iowa
6. MSU
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. UNC
10. Florida
Nov 23, 2015 1:48pm
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Nov 28, 2015 11:20 PM
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Mich St
4. Bama
5. Ohio St
6. Iowa
7. Stanford
8. Florida St
9. UNC
10. ND

Playoff Rankings prediction:

1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Alabama
4. Mich St
5. Iowa
6. Ohio St
7. Stanford
8. Notre Dame
9. Florida St
10. UNC

Bama's best win? LSU or Miss St

The committee finds a way to get everyone talking.....maybe Iowa 4 and Bama 5. Maybe Iowa #2

Won't really matter much as the top 5 will all definitely control their own destiny
Nov 28, 2015 11:20pm
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slingshot4ever

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Nov 28, 2015 11:27 PM
So probably a Stanford/OSU Rose Bowl
Nov 28, 2015 11:27pm
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ernest_t_bass

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Nov 29, 2015 1:12 PM
No way that an undefeated Iowa is out of the top 4.
Nov 29, 2015 1:12pm
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Nov 29, 2015 1:15 PM
New Coaches poll is out...and yeah, I know, it's meaningless.

Nov 29, 2015 1:15pm
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Nov 29, 2015 1:43 PM
ernest_t_bass;1766382 wrote:No way that an undefeated Iowa is out of the top 4.
It's moo anyways. Mich St should be #2 with 3 wins over top 16 teams
Nov 29, 2015 1:43pm
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Nov 29, 2015 2:12 PM
Ironman92;1766388 wrote:It's moo anyways. Mich St should be #2 with 3 wins over top 16 teams
Yeah tell me again why Alabama is #2? They've beaten no one and have one of the worst losses in CFB this year.
Nov 29, 2015 2:12pm
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Nov 29, 2015 2:42 PM
sleeper;1766391 wrote:Yeah tell me again why Alabama is #2? They've beaten no one and have one of the worst losses in CFB this year.
No idea....should be behind Oklahoma as OK also has slightly better wins.
Nov 29, 2015 2:42pm
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Nov 29, 2015 3:21 PM
It will be a travesty and full blown miscarriage of justice if the Buckeyes get in the playoff at this point.

Even if Clemson loses they have 2 top 10 wins. If NC wins, they will have a top 10 win.

The Buckeyes best win is a top 19 team. It is just not good enough, and if they have a problem with being left out try scheduling someone.
Nov 29, 2015 3:21pm
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slingshot4ever

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Nov 29, 2015 4:36 PM
IggyPride00;1766400 wrote:It will be a travesty and full blown miscarriage of justice if the Buckeyes get in the playoff at this point.

Even if Clemson loses they have 2 top 10 wins. If NC wins, they will have a top 10 win.

The Buckeyes best win is a top 19 team. It is just not good enough, and if they have a problem with being left out try scheduling someone.
If UNC wins ACC, their schedule would be weaker
Nov 29, 2015 4:36pm
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Nov 29, 2015 4:56 PM
Let me ask ... in order for OSU to get in to the playoff, Alabama needs to lose to Florida and Clemson to UNC, correct?
Nov 29, 2015 4:56pm
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Nov 29, 2015 4:57 PM
slingshot4ever;1766408 wrote:If UNC wins ACC, their schedule would be weaker
They would have the better win between the two teams, as well as having the distinction of having beat the best team on their schedule while the Buckeyes lost to the best team on theirs.

Seems rather cut and dry.
Nov 29, 2015 4:57pm
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slingshot4ever

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Nov 29, 2015 5:01 PM
IggyPride00;1766414 wrote:They would have the better win between the two teams, as well as having the distinction of having beat the best team on their schedule while the Buckeyes lost to the best team on theirs.

Seems rather cut and dry.
with 2 FCS opponents...those games are not included by the committee...so you could argue their final record is only 10-1 with a loss to an unranked SC team
Nov 29, 2015 5:01pm
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Nov 29, 2015 5:01 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1766413 wrote:Let me ask ... in order for OSU to get in to the playoff, Alabama needs to lose to Florida and Clemson to UNC, correct?
Only 1
Nov 29, 2015 5:01pm
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slingshot4ever

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Nov 29, 2015 5:03 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1766413 wrote:Let me ask ... in order for OSU to get in to the playoff, Alabama needs to lose to Florida and Clemson to UNC, correct?
stanford could potentially jump OSU by winning Pac 12...I just don't see it happening
Nov 29, 2015 5:03pm
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slingshot4ever

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Nov 29, 2015 5:04 PM
ESPN thinks we need all three of those upsets to happen (Florida, UNC, USC)
Nov 29, 2015 5:04pm
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Nov 29, 2015 5:11 PM
slingshot4ever;1766422 wrote:ESPN thinks we need all three of those upsets to happen (Florida, UNC, USC)
If we want 3rd then maybe
Nov 29, 2015 5:11pm
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Nov 29, 2015 5:45 PM
Is Ole Miss a worse loss than Texas?

Also, Alabama's SOS is #5 according to Sagarin, while Oklahoma's is #20. They are 6-1 vs the top 30, while Oklahoma is 5-0 (Texas is #61).

...and Sagarin isn't based on polls or pre-season rankings or any of that, so there's no bias.

In fact, Alabama is by far the strong 1-loss team. Followed by Oklahoma, Ohio State and then Michigan State. North Carolina...well they are WAY down...and even with a dominating win over Clemson, I just don't see how they get considered.
Nov 29, 2015 5:45pm
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Nov 29, 2015 5:51 PM
slingshot4ever;1766417 wrote:with 2 FCS opponents...those games are not included by the committee...so you could argue their final record is only 10-1 with a loss to an unranked SC team
If the committee is more interested in who did you beat than who did you lose to the Buckeyes are screwed.

Michigan is their best win, and they are 19th in the country.

They didn't play anyone this year that was any good.

Beating Clemson (#1 team in the country) and winning the ACC would validate NC, and any concern about their schedule would fly out the window at that point.
Nov 29, 2015 5:51pm
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Nov 29, 2015 5:56 PM
Azubuike24;1766432 wrote:Is Ole Miss a worse loss than Texas?

Also, Alabama's SOS is #5 according to Sagarin, while Oklahoma's is #20. They are 6-1 vs the top 30, while Oklahoma is 5-0 (Texas is #61).

...and Sagarin isn't based on polls or pre-season rankings or any of that, so there's no bias.

In fact, Alabama is by far the strong 1-loss team. Followed by Oklahoma, Ohio State and then Michigan State. North Carolina...well they are WAY down...and even with a dominating win over Clemson, I just don't see how they get considered.
How is OSU stronger than MSU? To me that negates the entire argument
Nov 29, 2015 5:56pm
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Nov 29, 2015 6:03 PM
I'm just talking about how they rank resumes. Obviously it doesn't indicate head to head. Clearly the committee wouldn't see it that way...because there is a head to head match-up to use.
Nov 29, 2015 6:03pm
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Nov 29, 2015 6:21 PM
Azubuike24;1766439 wrote:I'm just talking about how they rank resumes. Obviously it doesn't indicate head to head. Clearly the committee wouldn't see it that way...because there is a head to head match-up to use.
That is pivotal to their resumes though.

MSU beat OSU at OSU, probable #6 team, beat Oregon guessing #14 this week and then UM, guessing at #16

OSU has beaten UM, the guessed #16 team....the rest of the schedule maybe a slight advantage to OSU compared to MSU but the Oregon win is looking better and better and the head to head at OSU is the clear tie-breaker.
Nov 29, 2015 6:21pm
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Nov 29, 2015 7:02 PM
I get that. Sagarin is computer-based. So obviously it's not an exact thing. Like KenPom in college basketball...it ranks your overall body of work, but it doesn't differentiate between head to head wins or having top end wins over balanced overall wins. Definitely a flawed system, but it's a great source when you want to get away from things like polls where clearly name recognition, conference, history, previous rankings, come into play.
Nov 29, 2015 7:02pm
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Nov 29, 2015 9:17 PM
sleeper;1766391 wrote:Yeah tell me again why Alabama is #2? They've beaten no one and have one of the worst losses in CFB this year.
9 wins vs teams with a record of .500 or better and 8 of those have came against teams from P5 schools - 7 vs SEC, and Wisconsin

Compared to other top teams and their wins...
#1 Clemson has 6 (with 4 vs ACC, 1 vs ND)
#3 Oklahoma has 8 and possibly 9 with a Kansas St win this weekend, as of now 6 have come vs P5 teams
#4 Iowa has 4 (all 4 vs P5)
#5 Sparty has 8 (5 vs P5)
#6 Ohio State has 5 (3 vs P5)
#7 Stanford has 6 (5 vs P12, 1 vs ND)
#8 North Carolina has 5 (all 5 vs ACC)
Nov 29, 2015 9:17pm