
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 20, 2015 4:27pm
This is tough to do in my opinion and am interested if there are some offensive metrics. It's hard IMO to tell the value of different positions (best offensive lineman, LB, DL etc)
Let's see if we can kinda agree on a top 5 list (once many have put in their input)....or is this just a top 4 QB's + Watt?
Mine:
1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. J.J Watt
4. Antonio Brown
5. Rob Gronkowski
Let's see if we can kinda agree on a top 5 list (once many have put in their input)....or is this just a top 4 QB's + Watt?
Mine:
1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. J.J Watt
4. Antonio Brown
5. Rob Gronkowski

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 20, 2015 4:29pm
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Sep 20, 2015 11:10pm
The problem I have with putting JJ Watt on this type of list is that while he undoubtedly impacts the game quite significantly, his impact is different than the other four. Other than maybe Andrew Luck, I'm not sure who'd I replace him with, though.

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 21, 2015 8:40am
After yesterday, Johnny Manziel!!!!1!!

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 21, 2015 10:59am
1. Watt
2. Rodgers
3. Antonio Brown
After that I'm not sure.
2. Rodgers
3. Antonio Brown
After that I'm not sure.

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Sep 21, 2015 11:10am
Watt and Rodgers are definitely 1-2 for me if we're talking "best" and not "most valuable".

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 21, 2015 12:59pm
Tom Brady has to be #1. Simply the best QB in the league.
Watt
Rodgers
Watt
Rodgers

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Sep 21, 2015 1:15pm
I think this is pretty simple to answer.
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. J.J. Watt
4. Rob Gronkowski
5. Antonio Brown
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. J.J. Watt
4. Rob Gronkowski
5. Antonio Brown

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Sep 21, 2015 1:30pm
1)Tom Brady
2)Aaron Rodgers
3)Antonio Brown
4)Rob Gronkowski
5)Andrew Luck
2)Aaron Rodgers
3)Antonio Brown
4)Rob Gronkowski
5)Andrew Luck
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 21, 2015 4:44pm
I checked into this thread just for the sole reason that I knew some total dumbass would say exactly what you did and I had to see who that dumbass would be...ernest_t_bass;1752164 wrote:After yesterday, Johnny Manziel!!!!1!!
CONGRATULATIONS YOU'RE THAT DUMBASS!!!

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Sep 21, 2015 6:18pm
Idk about Brown over Calvin Johnson and I'm not being a homer here. Rodgers is easily number one however followed up by Watt. Justin Houston should be in the top 5 too

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 21, 2015 6:22pm
You actually thought he was serious? LOL, etb wasn't event trying. Reel him in boys, we got another. What a dumb fuck.Tiernan;1752244 wrote:I checked into this thread just for the sole reason that I knew some total dumbass would say exactly what you did and I had to see who that dumbass would be...
CONGRATULATIONS YOU'RE THAT DUMBASS!!!
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Sep 21, 2015 6:22pm
Too easyTiernan;1752244 wrote:I checked into this thread just for the sole reason that I knew some total dumbass would say exactly what you did and I had to see who that dumbass would be...
CONGRATULATIONS YOU'RE THAT DUMBASS!!!
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 21, 2015 6:47pm
OMG of course I knew he was trying to be funny you idiots...that's what makes my post so hilarious, the way I flipped it on him. You slapdicks really need to take a course in comedic writing to grasp the basic set ups, spins, closers etc etc. I'm so far more intelligent than all of you its almost embarrassing the way I have to explain it to you.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 21, 2015 6:52pm
I suppose one of you dip shits will thread ban me now...for revealing that you are all complete tools.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Sep 21, 2015 6:54pm
Reeled him in again boys. Too easy.Tiernan;1752269 wrote:OMG of course I knew he was trying to be funny you idiots...that's what makes my post so hilarious, the way I flipped it on him. You slapdicks really need to take a course in comedic writing to grasp the basic set ups, spins, closers etc etc. I'm so far more intelligent than all of you its almost embarrassing the way I have to explain it to you.

Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Sep 21, 2015 6:59pm
That is a 100% homer comment, lol. Antonio Brown is for sure above Calvin Johnson right now. Brown has been unguardable for the last 2 years. I'd say Julio Jones is definitely above him as well.Classyposter58;1752264 wrote:Idk about Brown over Calvin Johnson and I'm not being a homer here.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Sep 21, 2015 7:01pm
Yes, you're a homer.Classyposter58;1752264 wrote:Idk about Brown over Calvin Johnson and I'm not being a homer here. Rodgers is easily number one however followed up by Watt. Justin Houston should be in the top 5 too
Check the numbers since opening day last year. Brown is in his prime. Calvin is on his way down. Right now, 100/100 take Brown.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 21, 2015 7:01pm
EZ.lhslep134;1752271 wrote:Reeled him in again boys. Too easy.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Sep 21, 2015 7:02pm
Terry_Tate;1752272 wrote:That is a 100% homer comment, lol. Antonio Brown is for sure above Calvin Johnson right now. Brown has been unguardable for the last 2 years. I'd say Julio Jones is definitely above him as well.
Also Calvin drops way too many passes to be mentioned in the same breath as Brown now. 100% homer comment from Classy. "And I'm not being a homer here..."Azubuike24;1752274 wrote:Yes, you're a homer.
Check the numbers since opening day last year. Brown is in his prime. Calvin is on his way down. Right now, 100/100 take Brown.
LOL

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Sep 21, 2015 7:03pm
Add to this. Durability, is an underrated skill in the NFL.
Calvin Johnson
Julio Jones
A.J. Green
Probably the 3 most gifted WR's in-terms of athleticism, size and speed in the NFL. All 3 of them have been injured numerous times. None of these guys have played a full season since 2012.
It might be luck for Brown, but give me the guy who produces and who is always playing.
Calvin Johnson
Julio Jones
A.J. Green
Probably the 3 most gifted WR's in-terms of athleticism, size and speed in the NFL. All 3 of them have been injured numerous times. None of these guys have played a full season since 2012.
It might be luck for Brown, but give me the guy who produces and who is always playing.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 21, 2015 7:03pm
Yeah if I'm picking brown 100/100 over CJ at this point.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Sep 21, 2015 7:05pm
Classy's fantasy draft probably looked a lot like...
Calvin 1st round
Tate 2nd round
Abdullah 3rd round
Stafford 4th round
Bell 5th round
Probably blew his wad on Prater in the 8th, Detroit defense in the 9th and saved his TE for round 12 where he snagged Ebron.
Calvin 1st round
Tate 2nd round
Abdullah 3rd round
Stafford 4th round
Bell 5th round
Probably blew his wad on Prater in the 8th, Detroit defense in the 9th and saved his TE for round 12 where he snagged Ebron.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Sep 21, 2015 7:07pm
I think the bigger impact is a lack of running game for Detroit. When Bush had his great year three years ago Johnson had 1500 yards in 14 games

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Sep 21, 2015 7:10pm
The Tigers had the best lineup ever too. This isn't 2011 bro.