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pkebker
Posts: 760
Jan 6, 2010 1:14pm
What's your opinion of Tom Heckert?sportchampps wrote: "He rebuilt teams as a HC. He struggled in his only front office experience with the Seahawks. The Seahawks didn't get good until he gave up the front office part of his job. I hope he does a great job, but I feel he is unproven in the front office. "
Thankyou for being a Browns fan who actually doesn't think every move they make is gonna right the ship. Holmgren has been unsuccessful in the front office in his only experience. Yes I agree Holmgren is a great COACH. If you had hired him as a coach I would be right there with all the Browns fans saying this is a great move. He had very little to do with actaully building the Packers franchise besides coaching the players and designing the game plan (two things he will not do in Cleveland) and in Seattle he was actually almost fired as a coach and GM because they had been so unsuccessful but, they decided to just take away his GM duties and leave him to coaching and things improved and his COACHING took them to a superbowl.
Bill Parcells has done a great job in Miami but, he also had alot to do with player selection when he was a coach much more so the Holmgrem ( except for his negitive experince in Seattle). Homgrem is not Parcells. The Browns need to go out and get a GM who has had success in the past.

2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Jan 7, 2010 5:06pm
good call man
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 7, 2010 5:29pm
I predict Mangini stays!!!!!!!! LOL along with his entire coaching staff.
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pkebker
Posts: 760
Jan 7, 2010 5:42pm
haha Bruce Drennan got this one wrong didn't he?!
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 7, 2010 5:43pm
Drennan is a goofball. I used to like him but now he seems so damn obnoxious.
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fortfan
Posts: 339
Jan 7, 2010 7:21pm
Fail!!!!!!
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TolCentralCath
Posts: 128
Jan 7, 2010 7:58pm

Hesston
Posts: 516
Jan 8, 2010 9:06am
something to be said about stability, I'm glad he got another year. 6 weeks ago I would never have said that.

Hesston
Posts: 516
Jan 8, 2010 10:03am
good article from Terry Pluto, top notch writer for the Cleveland Plain Dealer
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2010/01/holmgren_did_the_right_thing_i.html
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2010/01/holmgren_did_the_right_thing_i.html

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jan 8, 2010 11:25am
Pluto is one of the few sports writers out there who seems genuine and not out to stir crap just to get more readership. It's why I always enjoy reading his point of view.
He's absolutely right in saying this was the correct move. Constantly starting over does not breed continuity or stability -- and this franchise needs some of both right now.
He's absolutely right in saying this was the correct move. Constantly starting over does not breed continuity or stability -- and this franchise needs some of both right now.
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Citybuck
Posts: 269
Jan 8, 2010 12:03pm

just_a_swimmer
Posts: 674
Jan 8, 2010 12:13pm
^^^^old news. How many links to the espn article do we need?