sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 6, 2015 1:49pm
There's no doubt in my mind that my generation has plenty of trash, but I would bet substantial amounts of money that the ratio of non-trash to trash is much higher in Millennials vs Boomers. And then when you separate the elite-non-trash vs the non-trash and compare the generations, I would also bet there is enough elite-non-trash in the Millennial pool to solve the issues leftover from the Boomers who didn't give one fuck about anything but themselves.BR1986FB;1744631 wrote:I'm not talking about hard workers, in many cases. My post was more so directed at believing that your generation is the "saviors." They're not. Sleeper comes across like your generation is a bunch of savvy Wall Street moguls, who are all driving around in Benz's, and are going to "save the world" because they are so good. Again, they're not.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Aug 6, 2015 2:03pm
Every generation has trash. Only one generation (aka: Boomers) regularly props itself up as great while making claims that those that came after it are trash in general while completely ignoring how it was their deeds, actions and general thought process that was the catalyst for things being how they are today.
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Aug 6, 2015 2:33pm
Yes. They were the ones buying houses they couldn't afford. Boomers are more responsible with money (and thus have more of it) so they were smart enough to live within their means.FatHobbit;1744607 wrote:Are you blaming the 20-35 year olds for the housing crisis?
I bought my house in 1990 and paid it off early. Never heard of any of them doing that (mainly because millennials make less money due to poor work ethics)
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Aug 6, 2015 2:34pm
Agreed.MontyBrunswick;1744647 wrote:Yes. They were the ones buying houses they couldn't afford. Boomers are more responsible with money (and thus have more of it) so they were smart enough to live within their means.
I bought my house in 1990 and paid it off early. Never heard of any Boomers doing that (mainly because they make less money due to poor work ethics)
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Aug 6, 2015 2:37pm
Didn't proofread. Fixed.Fab4Runner;1744648 wrote:Agreed.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 6, 2015 2:39pm
Yeah, I don't think you're going to have to worry about too many "older" folks making less than the millennials.Fab4Runner;1744648 wrote:Agreed.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Aug 6, 2015 2:40pm
Now I disagree.MontyBrunswick;1744652 wrote:Didn't proofread. Fixed.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Aug 6, 2015 2:42pm
The housing bubble popped 7 years ago. The people that are now 20-35 were then 13-28. I don't think the majority of them were buying homes at that time. Maybe the 23-28 year olds were, but I suspect not many in the 13-22 age group.MontyBrunswick;1744647 wrote:Yes. They were the ones buying houses they couldn't afford. Boomers are more responsible with money (and thus have more of it) so they were smart enough to live within their means.
I bought my house in 1990 and paid it off early. Never heard of any of them doing that (mainly because millennials make less money due to poor work ethics)
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 6, 2015 2:48pm
Completely not true. They're actually woefully irresponsible thinking the government and social security will take of them.MontyBrunswick;1744647 wrote:Yes. They were the ones buying houses they couldn't afford. Boomers are more responsible with money (and thus have more of it) so they were smart enough to live within their means.
I bought my house in 1990 and paid it off early. Never heard of any of them doing that (mainly because millennials make less money due to poor work ethics)
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Aug 6, 2015 2:59pm
Are you serious? How many young people take advantage of food stamps? They waste no time getting iPhone but they can't afford food on the tableCommander of Awesome;1744662 wrote:. They're actually woefully irresponsible thinking the government and social security will take of them.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Aug 6, 2015 3:01pm
Idk, how many?MontyBrunswick;1744665 wrote:Are you serious? How many young people take advantage of food stamps? They waste no time getting iPhone but they can't afford food on the table
Are you saying no boomers are on food stamps?
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Aug 6, 2015 3:06pm
I'm saying a disproportionate amount of young people use food stamps vs the older population.FatHobbit;1744667 wrote:Idk, how many?
Are you saying no boomers are on food stamps?
Their spend first/materialistic/lazy lifestyle results in them having no money, no job, etc.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 6, 2015 3:13pm
I think where a lot of this lies is that many of them are born into the lifestyle. I'm not "singling" out single mothers but from the welfare recipients I've been exposed to, it's usually a single mom who has a kid very young, gets into the Welfare system, doesn't work, no dad around (working) and the kid sees mom is a mooch so they go out, pop out/produce a kid and you have a 30-something grandmother and a teen "mom/baby daddy."MontyBrunswick;1744671 wrote:I'm saying a disproportionate amount of young people use food stamps vs the older population.
Their spend first/materialistic/lazy lifestyle results in them having no money, no job, etc.
^^^this group right here is the group that will pay their IPhone payment before their rent or car payment. This sampling isn't the norm, at least to me. I don't see many 20-30 year olds, with educations, mooching off the system.
I'm sure there are older folks on Welfare, to be fair.
namod65
Posts: 508
Aug 6, 2015 3:15pm
Every generation has its screw-ups, degenerates, and lazy people that don't want to work. I doubt it has changed at all recently. You just hear about it more because of the rise of the internet, social media, etc... getting information to people faster. And since the younger generation are at the forefront of this technology, I guess you should just be thankful that they are helping you stay more informed.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 6, 2015 3:18pm
As an "older" poster, I will say that I think the 20-30 something's are smarter than the older generation. I just think they lack common jackass sense.namod65;1744678 wrote:And since the younger generation are at the forefront of this technology, I guess you should just be thankful that they are helping you stay more informed.
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Aug 6, 2015 3:21pm
That's because people with education aren't lazy like the majority of their peers.BR1986FB;1744677 wrote: I don't see many 20-30 year olds, with educations, mooching off the system.
But not as manyBR1986FB;1744677 wrote:
I'm sure there are older folks on Welfare, to be fair.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 6, 2015 3:27pm
Comments like that aren't going to hit home with this audience. If I were to bet, the younger (20-35 year old) posters on this site a) are employed, b) are likely degreed, c) aren't on Welfare and d) likely don't associate/hang out with people who ARE on Welfare so they don't see it, day in, day out, and can't/won't relate.MontyBrunswick;1744681 wrote:That's because people with education aren't lazy like the majority of their peers.
vdubb96
Posts: 2,210
Aug 6, 2015 3:33pm
A: employed yesBR1986FB;1744683 wrote:Comments like that aren't going to hit home with this audience. If I were to bet, the younger (20-35 year old) posters on this site a) are employed, b) are likely degreed, c) aren't on Welfare and d) likely don't associate/hang out with people who ARE on Welfare so they don't see it, day in, day out, and can't/won't relate.
B: degree yes
C: welfare no
D: I have to associate with those people daily because we have 3 buy here pay here lots affilitated with our dealership. They are some of the most arrogant, everyone owes me something group of people I have ever seen.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 6, 2015 3:37pm
As to part "D", I have to LOL. Buddy used to sell cars at a buy here, pay here place and he said the customers who didn't have a pot to piss in were the pickiest/most demanding of all. They wanted a Mercedes vehicle with a Pinto budget.vdubb96;1744685 wrote:A: employed yes
B: degree yes
C: welfare no
D: I have to associate with those people daily because we have 3 buy here pay here lots affilitated with our dealership. They are some of the most arrogant, everyone owes me something group of people I have ever seen.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 6, 2015 3:42pm
FatHobbit;1744659 wrote:The housing bubble popped 7 years ago. The people that are now 20-35 were then 13-28. I don't think the majority of them were buying homes at that time. Maybe the 23-28 year olds were, but I suspect not many in the 13-22 age group.
Shh...don't wanna let facts get in the way of Monty's delusion.
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Aug 6, 2015 3:49pm
Maybe they aren't buying homes because there lazy, don't strive to have nice things, etc.lhslep134;1744687 wrote:Shh...don't wanna let facts get in the way of Monty's delusion.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 6, 2015 3:50pm
Or maybe the majority of the people who caused the housing bubble were 35-50 year olds trying to re-finance their houses or upgrade without having the means to do so.MontyBrunswick;1744689 wrote:Maybe they aren't buying homes because there lazy, don't strive to have nice things, etc.
Either way, you're full of shit when it comes to millennials and the housing bubble.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 6, 2015 4:10pm
Or they are educated about leverage and understand you want the sale as much or more so than they want the car. Pretty sad that you have to beg for the lowest of the lows money to scrap by.vdubb96;1744685 wrote:A: employed yes
B: degree yes
C: welfare no
D: I have to associate with those people daily because we have 3 buy here pay here lots affilitated with our dealership. They are some of the most arrogant, everyone owes me something group of people I have ever seen.
vdubb96
Posts: 2,210
Aug 6, 2015 4:12pm
Hah, educated? sure. Also I'm not a salesman.sleeper;1744696 wrote:Or they are educated about leverage and understand you want the sale as much or more so than they want the car. Pretty sad that you have to beg for the lowest of the lows money to scrap by.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 6, 2015 4:16pm
Educated is irrelevant. The person who owns the lot clearly is upset that he can't win a sales negotiation with a dolt. Sounds like trash to me.vdubb96;1744698 wrote:Hah, educated? sure. Also I'm not a salesman.