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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Jan 4, 2010 10:23pm
Wait until the odds come out for the Heisman winner next year. Guarantee he will be listed as a top 8 candidate.Crimson_Streak wrote: haha at the pryor picks. really he has one decent game and now he up for the heisman? only in buckeye land
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Jan 4, 2010 10:33pm
I hate o state but u can't deny the kids talentCrimson_Streak wrote: haha at the pryor picks. really he has one decent game and now he up for the heisman? only in buckeye land
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cview
Posts: 351
Jan 5, 2010 12:39am
I'd be willing to bet Mark Ingram will not even get invited to NYC. Not because he isn't really good or because I'm an SEC/Alabama hater, but Trent Richardson is going to see his workload increase next year. Also, to win it twice you need to go way above and beyond what you did to win it the first time.
If I had to pick right now I'd say Lamichael James. To win the Heisman you need to be on a really good, usually top 5 team as well as play in an offense that will lean on you a lot. James should be able to put up a bunch of all purpose yards on a preseason top 5, at the very least top 10 team.
If I had to pick right now I'd say Lamichael James. To win the Heisman you need to be on a really good, usually top 5 team as well as play in an offense that will lean on you a lot. James should be able to put up a bunch of all purpose yards on a preseason top 5, at the very least top 10 team.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Jan 5, 2010 12:44am
Yea no you don't see Archie Griffincview wrote: I'd be willing to bet Mark Ingram will not even get invited to NYC. Not because he isn't really good or because I'm an SEC/Alabama hater, but Trent Richardson is going to see his workload increase next year. Also, to win it twice you need to go way above and beyond what you did to win it the first time.
If I had to pick right now I'd say Lamichael James. To win the Heisman you need to be on a really good, usually top 5 team as well as play in an offense that will lean on you a lot. James should be able to put up a bunch of all purpose yards on a preseason top 5, at the very least top 10 team.
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cview
Posts: 351
Jan 5, 2010 1:02am
Yes you do.2quik4u wrote:Yea no you don't see Archie Griffincview wrote: I'd be willing to bet Mark Ingram will not even get invited to NYC. Not because he isn't really good or because I'm an SEC/Alabama hater, but Trent Richardson is going to see his workload increase next year. Also, to win it twice you need to go way above and beyond what you did to win it the first time.
If I had to pick right now I'd say Lamichael James. To win the Heisman you need to be on a really good, usually top 5 team as well as play in an offense that will lean on you a lot. James should be able to put up a bunch of all purpose yards on a preseason top 5, at the very least top 10 team.
Sincerely,
Matt Leinart
Leinart's right.
Sincerely,
Jason White
I'm with these dudes.
Sincerely,
Tim Tebow
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Jan 5, 2010 1:22am
Did you say something?cview wrote:Yes you do.2quik4u wrote:Yea no you don't see Archie Griffincview wrote: I'd be willing to bet Mark Ingram will not even get invited to NYC. Not because he isn't really good or because I'm an SEC/Alabama hater, but Trent Richardson is going to see his workload increase next year. Also, to win it twice you need to go way above and beyond what you did to win it the first time.
If I had to pick right now I'd say Lamichael James. To win the Heisman you need to be on a really good, usually top 5 team as well as play in an offense that will lean on you a lot. James should be able to put up a bunch of all purpose yards on a preseason top 5, at the very least top 10 team.
Sincerely,
Matt Leinart
Leinart's right.
Sincerely,
Jason White
I'm with these dudes.
Sincerely,
Tim Tebow
1974 256 att 1,695 yds 6.6 avg 22 td's
1975 262 att 1,450 yds 5.5 avg 4 td's
Sincerely,
Archie Griffin
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 5, 2010 1:30am
watch what you say about Griffin, you are about to have the wrath of God brought down on you by bucknutz everywhere2quik4u wrote:Did you say something?cview wrote:Yes you do.2quik4u wrote:Yea no you don't see Archie Griffincview wrote: I'd be willing to bet Mark Ingram will not even get invited to NYC. Not because he isn't really good or because I'm an SEC/Alabama hater, but Trent Richardson is going to see his workload increase next year. Also, to win it twice you need to go way above and beyond what you did to win it the first time.
If I had to pick right now I'd say Lamichael James. To win the Heisman you need to be on a really good, usually top 5 team as well as play in an offense that will lean on you a lot. James should be able to put up a bunch of all purpose yards on a preseason top 5, at the very least top 10 team.
Sincerely,
Matt Leinart
Leinart's right.
Sincerely,
Jason White
I'm with these dudes.
Sincerely,
Tim Tebow
1974 256 att 1,695 yds 6.6 avg 22 td's
1975 262 att 1,450 yds 5.5 avg 4 td's
Sincerely,
Archie Griffin
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Jan 5, 2010 1:35am
o well
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 5, 2010 2:11am
No doubt Archie's stats weren't as sexy as the first time, but you can probably say it was a "career" award his 2nd time, but he did close out some top teams with a few BIG games...
-- http://heismanpundit.com/2009/08/12/an-in-depth-look-at-archie-griffins-repeat/Looking back, Griffin pretty much wrapped up the Heisman race by mid-October. He went over 100 yards in an opening win over No. 11 Michigan State, then rushed for 128 yards in a 17-9 win over No. 7 Penn State in game two. A couple weeks later, he galloped for 160 in a 41-20 romp over No. 13 UCLA . By game four, the Heisman was his to lose.
At that point, Ohio State was elevated to the No. 1 spot in the polls and then proceeded to slice through the rest of its regular season schedule, winning by an average score of 38-6.
On the eve of the Heisman vote, Griffin’s stats looked like this:
—1,357 rushing yards, 4 touchdowns in 1975
–5,589 career rushing yards, an NCAA record
–33 career 100-yard games, an NCAA record
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FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Jan 5, 2010 4:43am
How about this for a dark horse: Zach Collaros. If he has a super season and Cincinnati goes undefeated again, he might just pull it out.
Goldenboy26
Posts: 164
Jan 5, 2010 9:15am
John Clay - Top RB in the Big 10, needs to perform better in big games next year
Mark Ingram - was the best among a pretty weak heisman group this yr, not sure if thats gonna happen next yr.
Matt Barkley - Starting QB for USC will have good numbers and they should get back to their winning way
Terrelle Pryor - only if he is throwing it like he did against Oregon, he wont have a realistic shot if they go back to only throwing 17 times a game.
Mark Ingram - was the best among a pretty weak heisman group this yr, not sure if thats gonna happen next yr.
Matt Barkley - Starting QB for USC will have good numbers and they should get back to their winning way
Terrelle Pryor - only if he is throwing it like he did against Oregon, he wont have a realistic shot if they go back to only throwing 17 times a game.
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bamagirl
Posts: 154
Jan 5, 2010 9:51am
The kid is good. And the only reason I don't see him going down as to two-time winner would be injury or T-Rich taking on a larger load.sleeper wrote:Why do people say this? We only have 1 2-time Heisman winner, and I don't see it ever happening again unless some extreme talent tears it up for a big time program his freshman year, and then has 2 great seasons the following years. Either way, Ingram is a good player, but is he good enough to go down in college football history as a 2-time Heisman winner? Hell no.september63 wrote: Mark Ingram.............................and then the rest. You would have to have him firmly as the #1 candidtate.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jan 5, 2010 9:58am
It all depends what the records are. If OSU is undefeated Pryor wins. If bama is undefeated Ingram will probably win. Barkley from USC could win if they are undefeated. We will see people pop up and fade based on who is in the top five in the polls and both OSU and Bama should start out there next year. Gerhart and Spiller had amazing seaons and yet did not win because their teams were not good enough. I am more curious as to how to the SEC project in talent next year and what Bama loses, that will go a long way in determining the heisman.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Jan 5, 2010 12:58pm
if miami has a grat year i wouldnt count out jacory harris. it seems this guy has some appeal to the media
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 5, 2010 1:10pm
I don't think that it's you have to go way above and beyond, you can't have a major letdown game on the big stage to win it a second year. There is always a "controversy" on who should have won the previous year's Heisman. When the Heisman winner slips up, the voters go "oh yeah, maybe the criticism is right, time to move on to the next guy". THAT is why it's so hard to win a 2nd Heisman, not because you have to player better, but you have to play PERFECT.2quik4u wrote:Yea no you don't see Archie Griffincview wrote: I'd be willing to bet Mark Ingram will not even get invited to NYC. Not because he isn't really good or because I'm an SEC/Alabama hater, but Trent Richardson is going to see his workload increase next year. Also, to win it twice you need to go way above and beyond what you did to win it the first time.
If I had to pick right now I'd say Lamichael James. To win the Heisman you need to be on a really good, usually top 5 team as well as play in an offense that will lean on you a lot. James should be able to put up a bunch of all purpose yards on a preseason top 5, at the very least top 10 team.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 5, 2010 1:16pm
LOL at all you Pryor haters. Tell me a team that had a tougher 4 game stretch to end the season thank the Bucks? Yes i know michigan isnt that good but they still brought their game.
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rock_knutne
Jan 5, 2010 2:16pm
Not saying he's going to win it but if healthy and if Kelly's high powered offense gets rolling at ND, Michael Floyd should be mentioned.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 5, 2010 2:18pm
I'm not a Pryor hater, but he didn't really do much in three of those four games.Pick6 wrote: LOL at all you Pryor haters. Tell me a team that had a tougher 4 game stretch to end the season thank the Bucks? Yes i know michigan isnt that good but they still brought their game.
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samuel adams
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Jan 5, 2010 3:11pm
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Crimson_Streak
Posts: 172
Jan 5, 2010 5:00pm
Ohio state won in spite of pryor. the kid has talent sure but he is not a qb and was a below average qb this year. there is no way in hell he wins the heisman next year. if he does ill give everyone one here 100 dollars
Bigred1995
Posts: 1,042
Jan 6, 2010 12:54pm
I agree with you, but unfortunately the only people that will give Zach a chance will be from Steubenville, or students, fans, and alumni of Cincinnati.FairwoodKing wrote: How about this for a dark horse: Zach Collaros. If he has a super season and Cincinnati goes undefeated again, he might just pull it out.
If he plays next year like he played this past year, his numbers (both rushing and passing) will be crazy! And if they go undefeated, having teams like Fresno St, New Mexico Bowl qualifiers and Oklahoma, winners of the Sun Bowl on their schedule next year will will only help his chances.
None the less, next year will be very interesting for Big Red fans when it comes to the Big East!