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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 10:28am
The thing about their starters vs bench is that it's not balanced enough, imo. What I mean is that the starters are more offense centric while the bench is more defensive minded. I'd like to see them swap JR & Shump in their roles so the bench had some instant offense and the starters had a defensive minded player. I think that guy off the bench was supposed to be Mo but he hasn't been able to stay healthy.Ironman92;1777480 wrote:I think LeBron 27/9/6, Kyrie 23, Love 17/10
Then: Smith 8, TT 8, Delly 6, Mozgov 6, Shump 5....then have Mo, RJ or JJ chip in a bucket....102 would do it
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 22, 2016 10:37am
You will never get Lebron out of the iso mode especially as the game gets later or closer. That is what he does and frankly that's what he does best. Part of the reason you see iso mode so much is that's how Lebron creates for his team. He spreads the defense and drives the lane forcing another player to commit to him which leaves another player wide open for the 3.BR1986FB;1777441 wrote:And THIS is the only way they are going to win a championship.
Besides the fact GS is one of the top 3 teams in the league and are tough to beat, the difference between Monday's embarrassment and Brooklyn/LA? Ball movement.
When this team moves the ball, they win. And that's mostly going to be on Lebron and Kyrie (to some extent). When the going gets tough, LBJ is going to have to mind f#ck himself to stay out of iso mode and try to carry the team on his back.
Granted, it's also on the supporting cast to hit their shots but to beat a team like GS or SA, they are going to have to move the ball.
I heard some stat (not sure of the specific number) but the "sweet spot" for the Cavs in assists (I believe) is 22. If they get 22 assists, they win.
The reason you think it sucks is that A) the players aren't hitting shots and B) Lebron is starting to lose the his overwhelming advantage at 1v1. We saw this last year in the Finals when they were able to use AI to guard Lebron and he was able to even out the matchup(also the players weren't hitting shots). Ideally this year, if we go iso, we should have Love and Irving out there and they can hit shots.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 22, 2016 10:38am
I don't disagree with that.BR1986FB;1777487 wrote:The thing about their starters vs bench is that it's not balanced enough, imo. What I mean is that the starters are more offense centric while the bench is more defensive minded. I'd like to see them swap JR & Shump in their roles so the bench had some instant offense and the starters had a defensive minded player. I think that guy off the bench was supposed to be Mo but he hasn't been able to stay healthy.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 10:47am
Well then they won't win a championship. They will be playing into exactly what GS & SA want.sleeper;1777496 wrote:You will never get Lebron out of the iso mode especially as the game gets later or closer. That is what he does and frankly that's what he does best. Part of the reason you see iso mode so much is that's how Lebron creates for his team. He spreads the defense and drives the lane forcing another player to commit to him which leaves another player wide open for the 3.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 22, 2016 11:11am
Yeah tell that to the Miami team years ago.BR1986FB;1777502 wrote:Well then they won't win a championship. They will be playing into exactly what GS & SA want.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2016 11:22am
Well if the players hit their wide open shots (as sleeper was saying), they most definitely will be able to win a title.BR1986FB;1777502 wrote:Well then they won't win a championship. They will be playing into exactly what GS & SA want.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 22, 2016 11:35am
This is the key. When you are down both Love and Irving, two of you better shooters and two players who can use the space created by Lebron iso effectively, its tough, if not impossible to stop.like_that;1777509 wrote:Well if the players hit their wide open shots (as sleeper was saying), they most definitely will be able to win a title.
In fact, if the players hit their shots, the finals might be such a blow out sweep that GSW will probably end up handing over last year's trophy as well and Cleveland will become back to back champions.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 11:38am
Apparently you missed the part where I said "trying to carry the team on his back." If this happens, and he's strictly in iso mode chucking up shots, no chance.sleeper;1777512 wrote:This is the key. When you are down both Love and Irving, two of you better shooters and two players who can use the space created by Lebron iso effectively, its tough, if not impossible to stop.
In fact, if the players hit their shots, the finals might be such a blow out sweep that GSW will probably end up handing over last year's trophy as well and Cleveland will become back to back champions.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2016 12:29pm
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 22, 2016 12:31pm
Holy shit. How does something like that even get published?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 12:35pm
Phew, now I don't feel so bad about thinking about trading Joe Thomas.....dumbasslike_that;1777531 wrote:LOL Cleveland media...
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/01/trade_lebron_if_only_it_were_p.html#incart_2box_opinion
On a side note, they had the Mozgov winter hat giveaway last night. Did anyone hear the radio commercials for this? Truly epic. One of the best radio spots I've ever heard.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 22, 2016 12:38pm
When you just have to have that contrarian asshole voice. Seems most cities have at least one going around. When the team they're talking about sucks, they're about a voice of the fan, in essence. When the team in question is doing really good, they come off as a complete fucking moron with no clue about anything other than being controversial to get hits.Automatik;1777532 wrote:Holy shit. How does something like that even get published?
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jan 22, 2016 3:40pm
Cocaine is a helluva drug.like_that;1777531 wrote:LOL Cleveland media...
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/01/trade_lebron_if_only_it_were_p.html#incart_2box_opinion
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2016 3:58pm
Uhhh, why the fuck did we fire Blatt?
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 22, 2016 4:01pm
Um, what?
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jan 22, 2016 4:02pm
Cocaine is a helluva drug.like_that;1777591 wrote:Uhhh, why the fuck did we fire Blatt?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 22, 2016 4:02pm
Bron probably wanted him gone and Lue hired.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2016 4:03pm
This is my first guess.wildcats20;1777595 wrote:Bron probably wanted him gone and Lue hired.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jan 22, 2016 4:03pm
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14627529/david-blatt-fired-cleveland-cavaliers-coach
What the fuck?? Is this a joke?
What the fuck?? Is this a joke?
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 22, 2016 4:04pm
Reporting he lost the locker room, aka Lebron being Lebron.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jan 22, 2016 4:05pm
Calipari is having a few struggles at UK, just sayin'
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 22, 2016 4:05pm
He got a multi year deal, no way it couldn't have been this...imo.like_that;1777596 wrote:This is my first guess.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jan 22, 2016 4:06pm
Same old Cleveland. Hope this works the way they think it will.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2016 4:08pm
[h=1]Brian Windhorst@WindhorstESPN[/h]
Despite positive comments publicly, there had been unrest growing in Cavs locker room. Frankly, it had been there since almost day one. 10m
Despite positive comments publicly, there had been unrest growing in Cavs locker room. Frankly, it had been there since almost day one. 10m
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2016 4:08pm
SMFH, even when we have a good team we can't have a stable front office in Cleveland anywhere.