Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 8, 2016 9:08pm
Jr Smith is on fire! Even with a 5 minute drought between buckets, the cavs offense is rolling.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Jan 8, 2016 10:29pm
Cavs scoring in bunches recently. Like Shump more than ever.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 8, 2016 10:45pm
Like Wiggins too.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 8, 2016 11:44pm
He had a very good James Harden style game. Lots of points, zero defense.sleeper;1774197 wrote:Like Wiggins too.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 8, 2016 11:59pm
I think he was a -28 today despite scoring 35.HighRoller74;1774203 wrote:He had a very good James Harden style game. Lots of points, zero defense.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 9, 2016 12:00am
Lock down
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 9, 2016 12:07am
like_that;1774204 wrote:I think he was a -28 today despite scoring 35.
Damn, that is low I question the metric.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 9, 2016 12:12am
Wiggins has been graded as the 4th worst defender in the NBA, at any position
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 9, 2016 12:16am
Wiggins is so athletic and can shoot it too. But he also does nothing else.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jan 9, 2016 7:49am
Wasn't the narrative on him coming out that he was a "total package"? Slasher/shooter/defender?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 9, 2016 10:05am
Sounds like he's 4th worst in desire. He's too long and athletic not to be a bit better.HighRoller74;1774208 wrote:Wiggins has been graded as the 4th worst defender in the NBA, at any position
Probably didn't have a good base growing up. This is the first time in his life where people will start to care (those who want him to max as a player anyways, but still hasn't affected Harden)
He'll make zillions regardless but Dominique seems to be his max if he's never going to bother. I imagine he'll work his way to average on defense.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 9, 2016 10:11am
I imagine he just doesn't care on the wolves. Which is more concerning than his defensive grades IMO.
He was a great defender at ku there's no way he just lost the ability to play D
He was a great defender at ku there's no way he just lost the ability to play D
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 9, 2016 10:12am
He can come back to Cleveland lol. Yeah, I don't get it. I remember the talk before his rookie year was he could play defense right away and he would mold into a scorer. The exact opposite has happened so far.SportsAndLady;1774251 wrote:I imagine he just doesn't care on the wolves. Which is more concerning than his defensive grades IMO.
He was a great defender at ku there's no way he just lost the ability to play D
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jan 12, 2016 5:02pm
Major Cavs trade today...
Joe Harris, 2017 2nd rounder and cash to Orlando for a 2020 2nd rounder.
Harris is out for the season so why not just waive him?
Joe Harris, 2017 2nd rounder and cash to Orlando for a 2020 2nd rounder.
Harris is out for the season so why not just waive him?
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jan 12, 2016 5:06pm
From Windhorst
"Picks involved in Cavs-Magic deal for Joe Harris are top 55 protected. Cavs sent about 1M cash, save 3M in taxes, salary & get roster spot"
Anyone hear if they have someone they have their eye on to go after right now?
"Picks involved in Cavs-Magic deal for Joe Harris are top 55 protected. Cavs sent about 1M cash, save 3M in taxes, salary & get roster spot"
Anyone hear if they have someone they have their eye on to go after right now?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 12, 2016 5:12pm
They must have something up their sleeves.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jan 12, 2016 5:12pm
Don't get how they save 3M in salary and taxes when Harris makes 845K this year and 980K next year.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 12, 2016 6:04pm
This. They have a free roster spot and, I believe, an exception with the deadline coming up soon.like_that;1775157 wrote:They must have something up their sleeves.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 12, 2016 6:59pm
Ever heard of the luxury tax?sportswizuhrd;1775158 wrote:Don't get how they save 3M in salary and taxes when Harris makes 845K this year and 980K next year.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 12, 2016 7:01pm
Eh yeah its definitely a move that doesn't matter much unless they are planning on making a move with another team.like_that;1775157 wrote:They must have something up their sleeves.
The reality is, Dan Gilbert isn't going to lose any sleep at night over $3M so I don't think it's purely a salary dump. My guess is they are going to trade the exception or Movgoz for player and some fillers.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jan 12, 2016 7:05pm
Don't try to explain math to a guy that doesn't understand that 1 loss is better than 2.sleeper;1775180 wrote:Ever heard of the luxury tax?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 12, 2016 8:28pm
lol'dsuperman;1775184 wrote:Don't try to explain math to a guy that doesn't understand that 1 loss is better than 2.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 12, 2016 10:38pm
Decent game tonight. Cavs moving ball well in 4th but defense not moving quick enough
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 12, 2016 10:39pm
Cavs 5 shots on that offensive set, Love 2 misses and 3 rebounds lol
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 12, 2016 10:42pm
Mavs 2 terrible 3 shots but crazy bounces off rim for a 3rd and they of course drain it.
7 guys in double figures for Cavs but not getting enough stops
7 guys in double figures for Cavs but not getting enough stops