sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 11:40am
Green is a punk ass bitch. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see him punch someone in the groin and be thrown out of Game 6 and gone for Game 7 as well.like_that;1799470 wrote:Green being back is huge for GSW, wtf are you talking about. It took two amazing performances from kyrie/Lebron to win last night. You're kidding yourself if you don't think Green is going to make a difference.
Cavs are the better team in my opinion. They should win the series.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 11:41am
Thompson/Green are the favorites for MVP assuming the Warriors win.Ironman92;1799475 wrote:If Green plays well and guards LeBron and he struggles....Did Draymond win the Finals MVP by attending an A's game during game 5?
I really hope he has one of his 4/13 games and LeBron plays great again...that would shut up a lot of the talk for him
Lebron is without question the MVP for the Cavs assuming they win.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 11:42am
Game 6 is about 60/40 in favor of the Cavs. Lebron needs to come out again like he did last night and exert his will on the game.SportsAndLady;1799476 wrote:Just squeek one out at home, and see what happens in game 7. They'd be the heavy underdogs, but with Lebron you never know.
What will really piss me off is if we come out and lay an egg Thursday and lose game 6 at home. That'll piss me right the fuck off.
Game 7. Are you really going to call a Lebron James led team in the Finals a "heavy underdog"? Game 7 I give the Cavs a 51/49 edge on the Warriors.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jun 14, 2016 11:43am
I don't think they can win two more games without anything from Love. He has to give them something better than two points.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 11:49am
We just beat GSW at their place with Love being a 12th man trench tier player. What makes you think we need anything from Love the rest of the series?friendfromlowry;1799483 wrote:I don't think they can win two more games without anything from Love. He has to give them something better than two points.
At this point, any stat Love puts on the board besides TO/PF is a bonus. We can win on the backs of LBJ/KI. The biggest difference is Lebron hit 3's and that's huge; not because of the points but because of the additional pressure that applies to a defense. The Warriors have been sagging a bit on Lebron and forcing jump shots and when he starts hitting them they have to play up, which allows Lebron to drive to the lane, which then draws more players in for a kick out to an open shot.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jun 14, 2016 11:54am
I hope Green tried to win the game himself on the offensive end. I can see his ego wiring a check that his game can't cash.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 14, 2016 11:58am
He's going to have several open shots...sure hope's a bit off. If he goes 8/14 the Cavs are in troublesuperman;1799486 wrote:I hope Green tried to win the game himself on the offensive end. I can see his ego wiring a check that his game can't cash.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 12:05pm
Me too. The reality is if Thompson doesn't go off last night the Warriors get absolutely clown stomped. Curry is human again and Lebron/KI decided to show up.superman;1799486 wrote:I hope Green tried to win the game himself on the offensive end. I can see his ego wiring a check that his game can't cash.
I don't think the Warriors have a chance in Game 6.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 14, 2016 12:33pm
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 12:41pm
Yes let's listen to the crook. Draymond Green was in on it to punch someone in the balls 5 times in the playoffs.Commander of Awesome;1799498 wrote:http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/13/tim-donaghy-draymond-green-suspension-prolong-nba-finals-warriors-cavaliers?xid=si_social
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jun 14, 2016 12:44pm
Like_that already pointed out how significant having Green back would be, to which you countered with "He'll probably be suspended for games 6 and 7, too."sleeper;1799485 wrote:We just beat GSW at their place with Love being a 12th man trench tier player. What makes you think we need anything from Love the rest of the series?
At this point, any stat Love puts on the board besides TO/PF is a bonus. We can win on the backs of LBJ/KI. The biggest difference is Lebron hit 3's and that's huge; not because of the points but because of the additional pressure that applies to a defense. The Warriors have been sagging a bit on Lebron and forcing jump shots and when he starts hitting them they have to play up, which allows Lebron to drive to the lane, which then draws more players in for a kick out to an open shot.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 14, 2016 12:44pm
Didn't realize AI went 15-11-6 in Draymond's absence
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jun 14, 2016 12:55pm
I dunno, the simple truth that counting on James and Irving to finish the series with three straight games of 80+ points on 60+% shooting might be a bit of wishful thinking and that it might be important for someone else to help out a bit on that front. Such as the guy who was paid big bucks to be a key offensive contributor.sleeper;1799485 wrote:We just beat GSW at their place with Love being a 12th man trench tier player. What makes you think we need anything from Love the rest of the series?
At this point, any stat Love puts on the board besides TO/PF is a bonus. We can win on the backs of LBJ/KI. The biggest difference is Lebron hit 3's and that's huge; not because of the points but because of the additional pressure that applies to a defense. The Warriors have been sagging a bit on Lebron and forcing jump shots and when he starts hitting them they have to play up, which allows Lebron to drive to the lane, which then draws more players in for a kick out to an open shot.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jun 14, 2016 12:55pm
How the hell was love +18 last night. Blows my mind
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sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 1:06pm
Green is a wild card. I don't think he can stop Lebron James and KI by himself. With Bogut out, Green being back doesn't really matter to me.friendfromlowry;1799502 wrote:Like_that already pointed out how significant having Green back would be, to which you countered with "He'll probably be suspended for games 6 and 7, too."
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 14, 2016 1:06pm
Cause he was in with LeBron and Kyrie for most of his 33 min.Crimson streak;1799508 wrote:How the hell was love +18 last night. Blows my mind
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More interested in the +/- with and without Bogut in there. Only played 8 min I think.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 1:06pm
He played a lot of minutes and the Cavs won by a substantial margin.Crimson streak;1799508 wrote:How the hell was love +18 last night. Blows my mind
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That's why +/- is a flawed stat. I would argue Love had about as much impact last night as Frye.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 1:08pm
I think there is another level that Lebron can reach so 80+ points on 60% is not only doable for two straight games but likely to exceed those marks.Heretic;1799507 wrote:I dunno, the simple truth that counting on James and Irving to finish the series with three straight games of 80+ points on 60+% shooting might be a bit of wishful thinking and that it might be important for someone else to help out a bit on that front. Such as the guy who was paid big bucks to be a key offensive contributor.
Did you watch the game last night? What's the game plan for GSW to stop that duo?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 14, 2016 1:08pm
Green is what makes the GSW lineup so difficult to defend. If you actually believe what you just said then you really are delusional. A "wildcard." LOLsleeper;1799509 wrote:Green is a wild card. I don't think he can stop Lebron James and KI by himself. With Bogut out, Green being back doesn't really matter to me.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 14, 2016 1:09pm
This is the FIRST game all playoffs where Lebron hit his jumpers and now all of a sudden you think that's going to be the norm?sleeper;1799512 wrote:I think there is another level that Lebron can reach so 80+ points on 60% is not only doable for two straight games but likely to exceed those marks.
Did you watch the game last night? What's the game plan for GSW to stop that duo?
Have you even watched any playoffs this spring?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 14, 2016 1:12pm
Waiting until Thursday night is going to suck
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 1:26pm
He is a wild card because he can't keep his emotions under control. No doubt the refs will take an extra look at every one of his fouls. I doubt he plays much over the next 2 games.like_that;1799513 wrote:Green is what makes the GSW lineup so difficult to defend. If you actually believe what you just said then you really are delusional. A "wildcard." LOL
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2016 1:27pm
It's a promising trend. Lebron hitting jumpers = easiest game of your life.like_that;1799514 wrote:This is the FIRST game all playoffs where Lebron hit his jumpers and now all of a sudden you think that's going to be the norm?
Have you even watched any playoffs this spring?
No reason we would see Lebron hit 4/8 from the 3 and then REGRESS on his home court. Cavs should win Game 6 with Lebron on the bench in the 4th.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Jun 14, 2016 1:40pm
LeBron and Kyrie are not likely to duplicate last night's performance...ever. If they do, I'll be ecstatic, but it's probably not gonna happen.
They may still have great games, though, but they will need someone else to step up. Whether it's JR, Jefferson, or even Love, it needs to happen to win Game 6.
Also, LeBron can't fall in love with shooting jumpers. Yes, he needs to take them when available, but his main goal still needs to be attacking the rim. If he starts settling for jump shots all night, things will not end well.
They may still have great games, though, but they will need someone else to step up. Whether it's JR, Jefferson, or even Love, it needs to happen to win Game 6.
Also, LeBron can't fall in love with shooting jumpers. Yes, he needs to take them when available, but his main goal still needs to be attacking the rim. If he starts settling for jump shots all night, things will not end well.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 14, 2016 1:42pm
Season offensive rating for GSW...115.like_that;1799513 wrote:Green is what makes the GSW lineup so difficult to defend. If you actually believe what you just said then you really are delusional. A "wildcard." LOL
Last night...98
There's a few reasons they won 73 games, he might be the biggest.