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Aug 13, 2015 8:31 PM
I think lebron will coast like last season but I don't except to be under .500 after 40 games. They needed half of the season to figure out their identity (plus make trades). There is no honeymoon stage this time around.
Aug 13, 2015 8:31pm
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Aug 19, 2015 10:13 AM
I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty surprised this Tristan Thompson saga has dragged out this long. He must be incredibly stubborn to go to these lengths and expect a similar deal to Kyrie. I think I read something yesterday that stated the 5-year, $94M deal that he wants would cost the Cavs about $44M in luxury tax. That's absolutely crazy. He's obviously banking on Gilbert doing whatever it takes to win. These greedy bums...
Aug 19, 2015 10:13am
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Aug 20, 2015 9:59 PM
JR Smith back. 5m this season, player option for the next year, not sure of the #'s on that one.
Aug 20, 2015 9:59pm
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Aug 23, 2015 9:35 AM
Cavs finally going to bring over Kaun, 7-footer from Russia drafted in '08.

Putting pressure on TT I think.
Aug 23, 2015 9:35am
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Aug 23, 2015 11:05 AM
sleeper;1746783 wrote:Cavs finally going to bring over Kaun, 7-footer from Russia drafted in '08.

Putting pressure on TT I think.
He is not a true foreign player. Played HS in Florida and went to Kansas for 4 years.
Aug 23, 2015 11:05am
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Aug 27, 2015 7:05 PM
Irving out until January. Does not matter, as long as they finish in the top 8, they win the east once he is healthy.
Aug 27, 2015 7:05pm
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Aug 27, 2015 7:53 PM
Sonofanump;1747525 wrote:Irving out until January. Does not matter, as long as they finish in the top 8, they win the east once he is healthy.
Gives him fresh legs in the playoffs.
Aug 27, 2015 7:53pm
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Aug 27, 2015 8:01 PM
Probably a good thing. Only thing that is bad, they won't be able to rotate love and lbj with rest as often to start the year. Well, they still could, but likely won't.
Aug 27, 2015 8:01pm
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Aug 27, 2015 8:04 PM
It isnt official that he is out until Jan. THe "inside source" just said he wouldn't be surprised if it was until January. I bet Irving plays in December.
Aug 27, 2015 8:04pm
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Aug 28, 2015 8:41 AM
at this point i'd try to orchestrate a sign and trade with him. he's determined to be a headline all fucking season long and that's not what the cavs need.
Aug 28, 2015 8:41am
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Aug 28, 2015 8:42 AM
Then Thompson is an idiot.

- Rings
- Money
- Home

I'll play for #1. Home will always be there.
Aug 28, 2015 8:42am
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Aug 28, 2015 9:08 AM
j_crazy;1747572 wrote:at this point i'd try to orchestrate a sign and trade with him. he's determined to be a headline all fucking season long and that's not what the cavs need.
Agreed.

I posted that because it was from Sheridan. Not sure if he has a mole in Lebron's camp but he was the only one who stuck to his guns about his sources saying Lebron was returning to Cleveland when he did.
Aug 28, 2015 9:08am
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Aug 28, 2015 11:39 AM
BR1986FB;1747578 wrote: I posted that because it was from Sheridan. Not sure if he has a mole in Lebron's camp but he was the only one who stuck to his guns about his sources saying Lebron was returning to Cleveland when he did.
Sheridan reported the Lebron story, and he's legit, but spend 10 freaking seconds and look at the byline from the article. "By Michael Scotto". It wasn't "from Sheridan"
Aug 28, 2015 11:39am
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Aug 31, 2015 9:13 AM
isn't today D-day with Tristan's qualifying offer sheet?

doesn't anyone think it's wierd that he didn't even go out to other teams to get offers? he just expects the cavs to pay 95 million because he wants it, when we all know if he goes out for offers the most he gets is like 60 million. i'm really frustrated with TT as a fan now.
Aug 31, 2015 9:13am
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Aug 31, 2015 10:54 AM
j_crazy;1747852 wrote:isn't today D-day with Tristan's qualifying offer sheet?

doesn't anyone think it's wierd that he didn't even go out to other teams to get offers? he just expects the cavs to pay 95 million because he wants it, when we all know if he goes out for offers the most he gets is like 60 million. i'm really frustrated with TT as a fan now.
I think other teams wouldn't offer him anywhere near what the Cavs are offering which is why they haven't. They saw the initial offer, 5 years $80M and said "Too much" and left it at that.

I hope he walks honestly. Go play for some shit team and make less money.
Aug 31, 2015 10:54am
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Aug 31, 2015 2:36 PM
lhslep134;1747922 wrote:Good riddance. Head back to Toronto and enjoy mediocrity.
And less money. A max from Toronto next season is about what the Cavs offered him this season (and less than a max the cavs can offer next season). lol at his diva bitch boy wanting to be known as a "Max" player.
Aug 31, 2015 2:36pm
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Aug 31, 2015 2:41 PM
lhslep134;1747922 wrote:Good riddance. Head back to Toronto and enjoy mediocrity.
I have to agree with this. Although signing TT would be nice, he's not needed to win a championship in Cleveland. Love, Irving, and Lebron plus the other role players on the roster are enough to be competing for championships for the next few years. TT is a nice piece, but he's not crucial. If Irving pulled this stunt, no doubt the Cavs would bulk(Irving is obviously a max player though so maybe bad comparison), but TT is holding on to false leverage. I also don't think letting Thompson go will have any impact on Lebron's contract situation for the out years. I think the only way Lebron leaves is if Gilbert completely shits the bed and neglects building a talented roster. TT or not, the Cavs have a talented roster.

Let him walk.
Aug 31, 2015 2:41pm
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Aug 31, 2015 2:47 PM
Also, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Gilbert went to Lebron privately and had a discussion about TT's contract situation. Publicly, Lebron has stated heavily that TT should always be a Cav but privately I imagine Lebron has told Gilbert otherwise. No way Gilbert is going to allow the Lebron leaving door to re-open over $15M dollars. The $80M is more than fair and you can bet Lebron privately has agreed.
Aug 31, 2015 2:47pm
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Aug 31, 2015 4:45 PM
Depends. How do we know that part of LeBron's agreement to return was contingent on an open check book from Gilbert to sign anyone/everyone. I think what LeBron would agree with is that TT is not WORTH that money, but that doesn't mean he'll agree that the Cavs shouldn't pay it.
Aug 31, 2015 4:45pm
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Aug 31, 2015 6:16 PM
This is a lose/lose situation. If Gilbert opens the checkbook to meet his demands, he's setting a precedent for other players to follow. If Thompson will truly ONLY accept the max, and Gilbert refuses, we lose a key piece of our team. To say Thompson isn't important is foolish. He single-handedly owned the offensive glass in the playoffs. However, he's obviously not even close to being worth that money, and I don't think there's ANY way that we can give in to his demands. Disappointing, nonetheless.
Aug 31, 2015 6:16pm
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Aug 31, 2015 8:30 PM
Azubuike24;1747959 wrote:Depends. How do we know that part of LeBron's agreement to return was contingent on an open check book from Gilbert to sign anyone/everyone. I think what LeBron would agree with is that TT is not WORTH that money, but that doesn't mean he'll agree that the Cavs shouldn't pay it.
If that were the case, the deal would be done already.
Aug 31, 2015 8:30pm
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Aug 31, 2015 8:56 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1747986 wrote:This is a lose/lose situation. If Gilbert opens the checkbook to meet his demands, he's setting a precedent for other players to follow. If Thompson will truly ONLY accept the max, and Gilbert refuses, we lose a key piece of our team. To say Thompson isn't important is foolish. He single-handedly owned the offensive glass in the playoffs. However, he's obviously not even close to being worth that money, and I don't think there's ANY way that we can give in to his demands. Disappointing, nonetheless.
Andy is just as good as TT if healthy. TT can go suck a big one.
Aug 31, 2015 8:56pm