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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jul 29, 2015 4:04pm
JUAN EMMANUEL RAZO, an illegal immigrant suspected of murdering one woman, wounding another and attempting to rape a 14-year-old girl is released earlier this month by Ohio sheriff's deputies after U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents told them not to hold him, law enforcement officials say.
The beat goes on ...
The beat goes on ...
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jul 29, 2015 4:19pm
Nate Silver breaks down the "Trump Frenzy" pretty nicely here, and with a kickass analogy to boot.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/donald-trump-is-the-nickelback-of-gop-candidates/?ex_cid=story-twitter
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/donald-trump-is-the-nickelback-of-gop-candidates/?ex_cid=story-twitter
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Aug 12, 2015 10:54pm
I am still voting for trump.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Aug 19, 2015 9:11pm
Trump is thumping people in the polls and he hasnt even started talking about his wheelhouse subject. When he starts in about creating jobs and lowering the national debt......his stock will rise more.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 19, 2015 9:22pm
fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/candidates-in-donald-trumps-position-have-a-terrible-track-record/Spock;1746446 wrote:Trump is thumping people in the polls and he hasnt even started talking about his wheelhouse subject. When he starts in about creating jobs and lowering the national debt......his stock will rise more.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 1, 2015 9:56am
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/two-polls-show-exactly-why-190000376.html
some interesting data points
some interesting data points
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 1, 2015 11:23am
yeah, well, Ben Carson is now running neck-and-neck...and I thought he was terrible in the debate. Carly Fiorina is now 3rd....which basically goes to show how much people want a non-politician.
I can't stand Cruz. Way too early for predictions, but it looks like ultimately it will be Cruz or Rubio. Hopefully Rand Paul finds a way to get up off the mat.
I can't stand Cruz. Way too early for predictions, but it looks like ultimately it will be Cruz or Rubio. Hopefully Rand Paul finds a way to get up off the mat.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 1, 2015 11:37am
Yes, still way too early. But a Kasich/Rubio ticket would not surprise me and possibly could win, although with the non-producers now just about out-numbering the producers, the math (especially electoral math) is far from their favor.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 1, 2015 11:39am
I see no indication that Cruz has a chance of winning.gut;1748094 wrote:yeah, well, Ben Carson is now running neck-and-neck...and I thought he was terrible in the debate. Carly Fiorina is now 3rd....which basically goes to show how much people want a non-politician.
I can't stand Cruz. Way too early for predictions, but it looks like ultimately it will be Cruz or Rubio. Hopefully Rand Paul finds a way to get up off the mat.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 1, 2015 12:41pm
He's the leading "politician" right now. Plus, he would pick-up more than his share of votes from Trump and Carson.like_that;1748101 wrote:I see no indication that Cruz has a chance of winning.
Assuming neither Trump, Carson nor Fiorina get the nomination that leaves Cruz as one of the clear favorites, currently.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Sep 1, 2015 2:16pm
Seems like the best ticket for a victory IMHO - Kasich with a strong Domestic Policy Record and Rubio with the hawkishness that the Neocons like. The question is would Conservatives support it? So far I have seen Erick Erickson say he would refuse to vote for Kasich and Rubio has almost been excommunicated for his attempt at Comprehensive Immigration Reform.QuakerOats;1748099 wrote:Yes, still way too early. But a Kasich/Rubio ticket would not surprise me and possibly could win, although with the non-producers now just about out-numbering the producers, the math (especially electoral math) is far from their favor.
Both are perceived to be "soft" on immigration by the hard right. Would the Conservative base take this as the final "betrayal" by the establishment?
What does Hillary do in response? Does she go with another old white guy in Jim Webb in hopes of locking down Virginia or go with one of the Castro brothers hoping it will help her in Colorado and Nevada?
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Sep 1, 2015 2:20pm
If you listen to talk radio or read conservative commentary the theme seems to be the hope that Ted Cruz will pick up what is leftover from Fiorina, Carson and Trump. Not sure who a good running mate would be for him - probably a midwesterner?gut;1748120 wrote:He's the leading "politician" right now. Plus, he would pick-up more than his share of votes from Trump and Carson.
Assuming neither Trump, Carson nor Fiorina get the nomination that leaves Cruz as one of the clear favorites, currently.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 1, 2015 2:30pm
He's unelectable, IMO. He may appeal to a large percentage of primary voters, but I think he gets crushed in the general no matter who he picks as his VP....he's got this creepy sort of Penguin meets Jerry Falwell thing going.BoatShoes;1748140 wrote:If you listen to talk radio or read conservative commentary the theme seems to be the hope that Ted Cruz will pick up what is leftover from Fiorina, Carson and Trump. Not sure who a good running mate would be for him - probably a midwesterner?
I think Paul and Rubio are both excellent VP choices. Possibly Fiorina.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 9, 2015 4:10pm
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 10, 2015 3:36pm
What would Donald say about this mug ..... 
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 10, 2015 3:43pm
I can't believe Trump is currently the front runner. He's such an idiot.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 10, 2015 3:46pm
I agree he is bombastic, but most of what he says is accurate. Good to see someone in a political race who is not afraid to say what needs to be said (in many cases).
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Sep 10, 2015 5:43pm
^^^...and he's says what shouldn't be said too much also. I'll be disappointed if he is the nominee....so many other good people running on the "R" side to settle for that.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 11, 2015 10:22am
^^^ I agree. My preference would be something like Kasich/Rubio; they are among the best we have in the race, not to mention we absolutely have to win Ohio and Florida to have any chance.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Sep 13, 2015 11:41am
Personally as a Democratic voter I think that is the best ticket to win and would be very attractive to non-partisans. But, I feel like people on the hardcore conservative right will howl about them being "RINOS."QuakerOats;1749789 wrote:^^^ I agree. My preference would be something like Kasich/Rubio; they are among the best we have in the race, not to mention we absolutely have to win Ohio and Florida to have any chance.
Erick Erickson at Red State has said he wouldn't vote for John Kasich. Ann Coulter and the immigration hawks have all but abandoned Rubio. Would conservatives really die on that sword and let Hillary win?
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Sep 15, 2015 1:13pm
I wouldn't, but I've talked to a number of people that say they would. If and when push came to shove I would hope that not be the case.Would conservatives really die on that sword and let Hillary win?
Uz2Bon36
Posts: 1,135
Sep 15, 2015 7:12pm
Says it all.ccrunner609;1735277 wrote:[h=2]I am voting for Donald Trump[/h]
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 15, 2015 9:33pm
Interesting how some of the idiot GFs of one of my wives are all about watching the debate tomorrow night. And it's only because of Trump. These wine soaked slut bags couldn't name a single issue but "he will make the country great again" ... And maybe he will but so far he hasn't let us in on his secret plan. Maybe tomorrow night...
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Sep 16, 2015 8:15am
How many wives do you have?Tiernan;1751059 wrote:Interesting how some of the idiot GFs of one of my wives are all about watching the debate tomorrow night. And it's only because of Trump. These wine soaked slut bags couldn't name a single issue but "he will make the country great again" ... And maybe he will but so far he hasn't let us in on his secret plan. Maybe tomorrow night...
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 16, 2015 5:31pm
C'mon Bundy try to keep up...Al Bundy;1751097 wrote:How many wives do you have?