
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 28, 2015 5:22pm
Teams only get 5 timeouts for a game. Unless I'm misreading this, you are way off base. They get 5 a game, max of 4 can roll over to 2nd half.Azubuike24;1724915 wrote:Total timeouts.
TV timeouts occur under 16, 12, 8 and 4. That's never going to change. However, 5 team timeouts for a half is too many. 6 total team timeouts for the game would be fair.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 28, 2015 5:29pm
This.Laley23;1724938 wrote:Teams only get 5 timeouts for a game. Unless I'm misreading this, you are way off base. They get 5 a game, max of 4 can roll over to 2nd half.
If you don't burn one in the first half you lose it.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 28, 2015 6:07pm
Whew. I was like how could I have thus so wrong.Laley23;1724938 wrote:Teams only get 5 timeouts for a game. Unless I'm misreading this, you are way off base. They get 5 a game, max of 4 can roll over to 2nd half.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 28, 2015 8:38pm
Call me crazy, but I thought they got wiped and went up to 5 timeouts to start the 2nd.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 28, 2015 8:42pm
Lol nope.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 28, 2015 10:58pm
CrazyAzubuike24;1724977 wrote:Call me crazy, but I thought they got wiped and went up to 5 timeouts to start the 2nd.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 29, 2015 10:37am
I'm in agreement with this. There are way too many timeouts in the game especially once you factor in all the TV timeouts. I'd like to see full timeouts eliminated entirely and each team is given 6 20 second timeouts for the entire game.Azubuike24;1724821 wrote:I'd be all for just making it 6 timeouts for the whole game. 5 per half, especially the first half, is excessive.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 29, 2015 11:31am
You are agreeing with AZ, who unknowingly was advocating to add 2 timeouts.sleeper;1725094 wrote:I'm in agreement with this. There are way too many timeouts in the game especially once you factor in all the TV timeouts. I'd like to see full timeouts eliminated entirely and each team is given 6 20 second timeouts for the entire game.
I would like to see all 30 second timeouts as well though, sans the first called TO of the 2nd half which becomes a media timeout.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 29, 2015 11:34am
AZ and I rarely disagree. Are you surprised?Laley23;1725116 wrote:You are agreeing with AZ, who unknowingly was advocating to add 2 timeouts.
I would like to see all 30 second timeouts as well though, sans the first called TO of the 2nd half which becomes a media timeout.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 29, 2015 11:36am
I'm surprised you are agreeing wih something contrary to what you want to happen.sleeper;1725117 wrote:AZ and I rarely disagree. Are you surprised?

sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Apr 29, 2015 11:36am
The one thing I'd like to see changed about timeouts is the ability to call live ball timeouts. It's aggravating to see a team get caught in a trap defense and pull up the dribble too quickly and call a timeout, or someone falls and gets a timeout in before a jump ball is called. I can't imagine that in any other sport: quarterback and running back get confused on an audible and instead of getting hit with the sure loss of yards they call a timeout mid-play to avoid it?
I've just always hated it...and wish it would go away.
I've just always hated it...and wish it would go away.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 29, 2015 11:47am
Sometimes I don't even bother reading the posts, I just see the person and auto agree with what they say.Laley23;1725118 wrote:I'm surprised you are agreeing wih something contrary to what you want to happen.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 29, 2015 12:34pm
I'm perfectly fine with 5 TOs and losing 1 if you don't use it in the first half. I would like to see them all 30s.
And of course the live ball timeout needs to go.
And of course the live ball timeout needs to go.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 29, 2015 12:35pm
Also, get the fuck rid of the possession arrow.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 29, 2015 12:54pm
Agreed. It's one of the worst rules in sports. If they don't want to have a jump ball you simply grant possession to the last team on defense.wildcats20;1725137 wrote:Also, get the fuck rid of the possession arrow.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 29, 2015 1:22pm
I would like to see them all be 30 as well, maybe 1 full I guess.wildcats20;1725135 wrote:I'm perfectly fine with 5 TOs and losing 1 if you don't use it in the first half. I would like to see them all 30s.
And of course the live ball timeout needs to go.
But 5 is too many I think.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 29, 2015 1:36pm
Coaches spend the first half + of a full timeout talking amongst themselves as it is. No need for fulls, IMO.
Having been around basketball at every level but the pros; I can say full timeouts are a waste of time.
Having been around basketball at every level but the pros; I can say full timeouts are a waste of time.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 29, 2015 4:54pm
Haha, my gross negligence of paying attention to resetting timeouts after watching thousands of games leads to a grand discussion.
Regardless, shorten the timeouts and games where you can. We won't be able to get away from TV timeouts, but I agree with the shot clock at 30 and less timeouts overall. The jump ball thing is stupid too, I never understood why they don't actually have a jump ball when necessary.
I'd also like to see the flagrant 1/2 rules changed to include flopping as well. It drives me crazy that a guy who gets absolutely mugged on a rebound can acrue a foul for elbows. It should absolutely be a flagrant for the play like Dakari Johnson hitting Chris Jones with a "fake elbow."
Regardless, shorten the timeouts and games where you can. We won't be able to get away from TV timeouts, but I agree with the shot clock at 30 and less timeouts overall. The jump ball thing is stupid too, I never understood why they don't actually have a jump ball when necessary.
I'd also like to see the flagrant 1/2 rules changed to include flopping as well. It drives me crazy that a guy who gets absolutely mugged on a rebound can acrue a foul for elbows. It should absolutely be a flagrant for the play like Dakari Johnson hitting Chris Jones with a "fake elbow."

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 29, 2015 5:53pm
I'd also be in favor of timeouts called within 30 seconds of the next TV timeout to just become the TV timeout.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 29, 2015 10:17pm
That is not feasible in the industry, though would be great for the fans.Midstate01;1725284 wrote:I'd also be in favor of timeouts called within 30 seconds of the next TV timeout to just become the TV timeout.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 30, 2015 4:17pm
Interesting. The Florida job comes up on May 1st and all of the sudden, certain coaches may come into play.
I doubt they could get Gregg Marshall, but Archie Miller is definitely someone to keep an eye on. He's got a good team returning at UD, but he's also got very high stock right now and like Texas, Florida is a job with great security, a boat load of recruiting opportunities and the cash to back it up from football.
I doubt they could get Gregg Marshall, but Archie Miller is definitely someone to keep an eye on. He's got a good team returning at UD, but he's also got very high stock right now and like Texas, Florida is a job with great security, a boat load of recruiting opportunities and the cash to back it up from football.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Apr 30, 2015 5:00pm
You know I disagree with the thread OP. It looks like next year will be dominated by older teams with great returning players as opposed to great freshman teams. Carolina, Maryland, Iowa State, Kansas all bring essentially the whole team back
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Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 30, 2015 5:44pm
I'm not sure the original post said anything about this not being the case.Classyposter58;1725640 wrote:You know I disagree with the thread OP. It looks like next year will be dominated by older teams with great returning players as opposed to great freshman teams. Carolina, Maryland, Iowa State, Kansas all bring essentially the whole team back
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Also, bringing a whole team back doesn't always guarantee much on this level. For instance, Michigan State loses 2 guys in Trice and Dawson, but could easily be better. That doesn't mean they go further, but be a better team.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 1, 2015 12:18pm
Saw where Miller and Mack from X could be possibilities.Azubuike24;1725628 wrote:Interesting. The Florida job comes up on May 1st and all of the sudden, certain coaches may come into play.
I doubt they could get Gregg Marshall, but Archie Miller is definitely someone to keep an eye on. He's got a good team returning at UD, but he's also got very high stock right now and like Texas, Florida is a job with great security, a boat load of recruiting opportunities and the cash to back it up from football.
Would suck to lose either one of those guys.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 1, 2015 10:25pm
Jaylen Brown chooses Cal.