Hillary Clinton

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rrfan
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Mar 28, 2016 8:44am
SportsAndLady;1788734 wrote:
I want one of these!
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jmog
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Mar 29, 2016 10:06am
So an ex/jilted lover of Bill all the sudden has some scandalous accusations on Hillary? I can't believe it! (oh, and I am NOT a Hillary fan).

Ok, so let's for a minute assume that 100% of that article is fact. That Hillary had multiple abortions, that Hillary is a closet lesbian, and that she only had a child for political reasons.

None of those things will exclude her from running for POTUS, and none of them would upset her liberal base. Matter of fact if she came out and was a lesbian that had multiple abortions she would be the liberal feminist hero.

Other than the lying/calculating political accusation (only had a kid for political reasons) adding to her legacy of deceit, I don't see anything in that article that ruins her, even if it is all true.

Now, let's assume that there was some partial truths that were stretched, let's say she had an abortion and is a closet lesbian/bi-sexual. The liberals will eat it up.
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Mar 29, 2016 11:20am
What? That you're a gullible moron who believes everything you read if it supports your personal political stance?
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QuakerOats
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Mar 29, 2016 1:33pm
Heretic;1789390 wrote:What? That you're a gullible moron who believes everything you read if it supports your personal political stance?

Bizarre.
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QuakerOats
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Mar 29, 2016 1:35pm
jmog;1789357 wrote: Other than the lying/calculating political accusation (only had a kid for political reasons) adding to her legacy of deceit, I don't see anything in that article that ruins her, even if it is all true.
Obviously none of it is ruinous, especially for a clinton. It merely confirms that which you have alluded to above.
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Mar 29, 2016 3:05pm
A second federal judge grants discovery in another HRC email case. This time it sounds like it is in regards to the State Department response to a FOIA request.

"Citing indications of wrongdoing and bad faith, a federal judge has overruled government objections by declaring that a conservative group is entitled to more details about how Hillary Clinton's private email account was integrated into the State Department recordkeeping system and why it was not searched in response to a Freedom of Information Act request."

"The judge noted that State argues it had no legal duty to search Clinton's emails when Judicial Watch's request arrived because her emails were not in the agency's possession and control at that time. It was not until December 2014 that Clinton turned over a portion of her email archive to State at the agency's request."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/03/hillary-clinton-email-discovery-221338

The investigation widens...
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QuakerOats
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Mar 30, 2016 3:05pm
http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/lewandowski-prosecutor-outed-as-hillary-supporter/


A big Clinton supporter is the Florida prosecutor erroneously going after Trump's campaign manager.

Too funny.

Too hypocritical.

While she skates despite putting national security at risk (or up for sale).
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Mar 30, 2016 3:57pm
"Erroneously"? He either grabbed her and left a bruise or didn't. I'm willing to bet he did, although I doubt it will be proven in court. Regardless, the guy shouldn't have touched her. But it is very interesting to see the Clinton connection.


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Mar 30, 2016 4:31pm
I heard a Secret Service agent at the event has said that she penetrated the Secret Service line, meaning she was wrong to have approached Trump in the manner she did.
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Mar 30, 2016 7:10pm
Apple;1789626 wrote:I heard a Secret Service agent at the event has said that she penetrated the Secret Service line, meaning she was wrong to have approached Trump in the manner she did.
Secret service agents don't comment on active cases. That was a Trump lie. Also, if that were true, the secret service would have handled it, not her campaign manager. There has been a lot written up on this by the daily wire I think it's called.
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Mar 30, 2016 7:42pm
iclfan2;1789612 wrote:"Erroneously"? He either grabbed her and left a bruise or didn't. I'm willing to bet he did, although I doubt it will be proven in court. Regardless, the guy shouldn't have touched her. But it is very interesting to see the Clinton connection.


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There is video I've seen which shows him grabbing her and jerking her backwards, but obviously that isn't enough to prove the bruising came from that incident.
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superman
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Mar 31, 2016 1:53am
iclfan2;1789651 wrote:Secret service agents don't comment on active cases. That was a Trump lie. Also, if that were true, the secret service would have handled it, not her campaign manager. There has been a lot written up on this by the daily wire I think it's called.
Sorry but you're wrong.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/29/secret-service-says-michelle-fields-touched-trump-before-lewandowski-intervened/
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Mar 31, 2016 7:03am
Ehh, there seems to be disagreement on the topic.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/29/thefederalist-blog-challenges-daily-mail-to-name-secret-service-agent-quoted-in-lewandowski-story/

I don't really care about this story, other than the fact Trump has changed his tune on it 3 times now. He is a whiny little rich ass who says nothing of substance and whose entire platform is that he isn't establishment.
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superman
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Mar 31, 2016 7:53am
iclfan2;1789668 wrote:Ehh, there seems to be disagreement on the topic.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/29/thefederalist-blog-challenges-daily-mail-to-name-secret-service-agent-quoted-in-lewandowski-story/

I don't really care about this story, other than the fact Trump has changed his tune on it 3 times now. He is a whiny little rich ass who says nothing of substance and whose entire platform is that he isn't establishment.
Not a Trump supporter at all but a hack from a third rate website trying to generate a story by grandstanding is not news worthy.
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Mar 31, 2016 9:07am
That's fine, but I also find an anonymous quote to not be much factual evidence. The main person keeping the story afloat that I have seen is Ben Shapiro who was with Breitbart, and is far from a hack.

Either way, this assault charge will go away because nothing can slow down the Trump train, and grabbing someone's arm is a tad much to be considered assault.


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Mar 31, 2016 9:28am
To get this thread back on track... How long can this investigation take? And if she were found guilty, how bad would that be for her? I guess what I mean is, if a guilty verdict would make her not fit to be president, how could anyone vote for her of the investigation is still ongoing in November?

Also, an interesting take below on how the clintons had been quiet for a long time until Bill came out and blasted Obama recently, and maybe it has to do with the fbi investigation.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/monica-crowley-the-clintons-sense-a-breakdown/


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Mar 31, 2016 9:55am
iclfan2;1789674 wrote:To get this thread back on track... How long can this investigation take? And if she were found guilty, how bad would that be for her? I guess what I mean is, if a guilty verdict would make her not fit to be president, how could anyone vote for her of the investigation is still ongoing in November?

Also, an interesting take below on how the clintons had been quiet for a long time until Bill came out and blasted Obama recently, and maybe it has to do with the fbi investigation.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/monica-crowley-the-clintons-sense-a-breakdown/


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Apparently Comey is going to set up an interview with Hillary soon. He is known for being unbiased and professional. This interview will put it to test. You gotta assume this investigation is getting close to an end if they are processing interviews soon. Although a federal judge recently opening up more emails to be investigated could prolong the investigation.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/report-clinton-questioned-fbi-server/
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QuakerOats
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Mar 31, 2016 10:07am
Hopefully the immunity they granted to Pagliano has caused him to hand over the ammo to corner her.

It has been a year-long investigation; they should have the facts now .......we will see if she can lie her way out with the FBI.
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jmog
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Mar 31, 2016 10:09am
iclfan2;1789612 wrote:"Erroneously"? He either grabbed her and left a bruise or didn't. I'm willing to bet he did, although I doubt it will be proven in court. Regardless, the guy shouldn't have touched her. But it is very interesting to see the Clinton connection.


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If someone is trying to get on state with a POTUS candidate that is not supposed to be on stage they most certainly SHOULD be "grabbed". I can't stand Trump but she was lucky it was just a "grab" and not a tackle.
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Mar 31, 2016 10:19am
QuakerOats;1789685 wrote:Hopefully the immunity they granted to Pagliano has caused him to hand over the ammo to corner her.

It has been a year-long investigation; they should have the facts now .......we will see if she can lie her way out with the FBI.
Typically the FBI doesn't grant immunity unless the are getting something in return, so I hope Pagliano spilled the beans. I am hoping Comey butters Hillary up for the first hour of the interview making her vulnerable and then BOOM hits her with the cold hard facts.
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Mar 31, 2016 10:34am
jmog;1789686 wrote:If someone is trying to get on state with a POTUS candidate that is not supposed to be on stage they most certainly SHOULD be "grabbed". I can't stand Trump but she was lucky it was just a "grab" and not a tackle.
It wasn't on a stage, Mr. Didn't See The Video.

[video=youtube;3s5hXeKxyEE][/video]
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Mar 31, 2016 10:50am
Heretic;1789698 wrote:It wasn't on a stage, Mr. Didn't See The Video.

[video=youtube;3s5hXeKxyEE][/video]
I am no Donald apologist, but if this happened 20 years ago (hell even 10 years ago) and she tried to apply charges she would be laughed at. If the same situation happened with Obama or Hillary I would call this a joke as well. I have experience a lot worse in a crowd of people.