sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 2, 2016 10:20am
This is pretty much how I feel. I will probably vote independent no matter what but if Trump/Cruz wins, I will probably vote for Hillary just to prevent the disaster and national embarrassment. I live and vote in Virginia now so my vote actually matters unlike DC.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784219 wrote:Put it this way.. If Rubio or Kasich is the candidate, I'm voting for Jill Stein. If Trump or Cruz is the candidate, I'm making sure those two fuckheads aren't ever POTUS. And there's a lot of Bernie supporters who don't care for Clintons like me that feel the same way.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 2, 2016 10:24am
Yeah DC is the liberal safe haven. I didn't know what liberalism really was until I lived there for a few years but holy shit its deeply left entrenched.like_that;1784227 wrote:Lol, I live in DC. My views are in the minority. I am highly outnumbered by my friends.
Apple
Posts: 2,620
Mar 2, 2016 10:28am
Tavis Smiley seems to think that Trump could pick up a decent amount of the black vote.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784208 wrote:How in the world do you see Trump picking up the black vote lol? Have you not watched his campaign at all?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/01/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-black-voters-primary-elections-2016-column/81150932/
I've also heard the name Allen West as a possible VP choice for Trump.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 2, 2016 10:30am
Yet in '08 you let a completely empty suit take you on the hope-n-change ride.ptown_trojans_1;1784204 wrote: Perhaps I may like them, I don't know. That's the thing. I have no clue, other than "Trust me."
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 2, 2016 10:32am
sleeper;1784237 wrote:Yeah DC is the liberal safe haven. I didn't know what liberalism really was until I lived there for a few years but holy shit its deeply left entrenched.
That's what happens when a large group that never performed in the private sector is gifted with $3.5 trillion a year of other people's money.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 2, 2016 10:33am
lol I could only wish.Apple;1784240 wrote:Tavis Smiley seems to think that Trump could pick up a decent amount of the black vote.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/01/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-black-voters-primary-elections-2016-column/81150932/
I've also heard the name Allen West as a possible VP choice for Trump.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 2, 2016 10:34am
He kicks BLM out of every stop he's been at. You're delusional if you think he's getting the black vote.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 2, 2016 10:34am
Allen West is the shit. Wish he would've run for President. Love that guy.Apple;1784240 wrote:Tavis Smiley seems to think that Trump could pick up a decent amount of the black vote.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/01/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-black-voters-primary-elections-2016-column/81150932/
I've also heard the name Allen West as a possible VP choice for Trump.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 2, 2016 10:36am
..smh lolBR1986FB;1784248 wrote:Allen West is the shit. Wish he would've run for President. Love that guy.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 2, 2016 10:39am
Says the guy who backs the Socialist...:rolleyes:ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784249 wrote:..smh lol
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 2, 2016 10:40am
says the guy who falls back on one word labels... yeah that does sound like an Allen West supporter.BR1986FB;1784251 wrote:Says the guy who backs the Socialist...:rolleyes:
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 2, 2016 10:41am
This is all internet and busting balls for me. Other than said, Monty, and probably tiernan I would be ok with getting a beer with anyone on this site.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784232 wrote:lol I know.. believe it or not I don't mind you at all, like_that. Ive got a very good friend who calls me out on my hyperbolic shit which I admittedly have a terrible tendency to do... you're that role on here. Well you and QCB.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 2, 2016 10:50am
Loved McCain, until he picked Palin and saw more and more former Bush neocons as his advisers.QuakerOats;1784242 wrote:Yet in '08 you let a completely empty suit take you on the hope-n-change ride.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Mar 2, 2016 11:01am
At least Bernie appears to have real, if flawed to most of us, beliefs. I believe the Clintons have none. Its all politics with them. I believe my earlier characterization of her (and her husband) as sociopaths is accurate. Bernie's just a wackadoodle.BR1986FB;1784251 wrote:Says the guy who backs the Socialist...:rolleyes:
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 2, 2016 11:02am
isadore?like_that;1784254 wrote:This is all internet and busting balls for me. Other than said, Monty, and probably tiernan I would be ok with getting a beer with anyone on this site.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 2, 2016 11:02am
BoatShoes;1784146 wrote:These words have all become meaningless in our political discourse
^George Orwell on Political Language.
It is way easier for people to just say "Commie!" rather than argue policies on the merits e.g.
I give you the term 'progressive'.
Yet another example of the left using subterfuge to gain more power. Many know the term is essentially code word for marxism (in practice), but not enough know. So the liberal democrat candidate in the U.S. uses this word instead of the other word in order to hoodwink a certain segment of voters.
Words have meanings, and the use of the proper descriptors in public discourse is highly important. When the left attempts to hide the truth, it often changes terminology or shutters speech to gain advantage, as disingenuous as it is.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Mar 2, 2016 11:05am
I don't think he meant that Trump would WIN the black vote, but would pull a decent amount, more than say McCain or Romney did.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784247 wrote:He kicks BLM out of every stop he's been at. You're delusional if you think he's getting the black vote.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 2, 2016 11:08am
queencitybuckeye;1784262 wrote:At least Bernie appears to have real, if flawed to most of us, beliefs. I believe the Clintons have none. Its all politics with them. I believe my earlier characterization of her (and her husband) as sociopaths is accurate. Bernie's just a wackadoodle.
Now now... Hillary and Bill both hold one strong core belief... their focus groups tell them what the populous wants to hear.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Mar 2, 2016 11:15am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784266 wrote:Now now... Hillary and Bill both hold one strong core belief... their focus groups tell them what the populous wants to hear.
I'd be O.K. with that so long as they carried out their Executive duties based on the limitations of the Constitution combined with the manner the populous wanted. Wish we could find that person.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Mar 2, 2016 11:20am
If Trump would call me and ask for my advice for VP with the intention of gaining Black voters, women and bitch slap Hillary
Condoleezza ( Condi) Rice Trump and Condi
Condoleezza ( Condi) Rice Trump and Condi
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 2, 2016 11:21am
well that would be a rare breed for sure.Con_Alma;1784267 wrote:I'd be O.K. with that so long as they carried out their Executive duties based on the limitations of the Constitution combined with the manner the populous wanted. Wish we could find that person.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Mar 2, 2016 11:30am
That individual will never be found in today political gene pool as long as the senate and congress have career term longevity.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784269 wrote:well that would be a rare breed for sure.
"Term Limits for a better America"
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 2, 2016 11:31am
No freaking way is Condi getting near that circus.Belly35;1784268 wrote:If Trump would call me and ask for my advice for VP with the intention of gaining Black voters, women and bitch slap Hillary
Condoleezza ( Condi) Rice Trump and Condi
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 2, 2016 11:40am
If trump gets 1 of every 4 black voters to vote for him, this election is over.
Also, does he kick BLM supporters out of his rallies, or do they do a bunch of stupid shit to disrupt the rally and get themselves kicked out?
Also, does he kick BLM supporters out of his rallies, or do they do a bunch of stupid shit to disrupt the rally and get themselves kicked out?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Mar 2, 2016 11:47am
I agree 100%. I would LOVE for Condi Rice to make a run for POTUS, but I highly doubt she would jump on the Trump circus.ptown_trojans_1;1784273 wrote:No freaking way is Condi getting near that circus.