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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Sep 30, 2015 1:36pm
Sigh. Classic mistake. People really need to stop paying attention to the media - in particular the right wing media - which made every conservative believe there was a real horse race and that Obama was likely to lose to Romney. Hillary is not in danger except in the minds of people who already hate her or hate dems. Whether you think she is a scumbag or not that is reality.HitsRus;1754133 wrote:I'm not worried about Hilary anymore. I think Biden, when he comes out, will make a more formidable candidate....and if he picks Warren as a running mate they could be tough to beat.
Prediction Markets still give her a 68% chance of winning the Democratic nod versus 18% for Biden and the Dems a 60% chance of winning. They give her specifically a 43% chance of winning; Jeb a 13% chance; Biden a 13% chance and Rubio a 10% chance.
If anything the markets think she has gained ground as Jeb has plummeted.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 30, 2015 1:49pm
She can easily win given the number of takers vs producers plus the composition of the electoral map. In fact, it is nearly impossible for a Republican to win given the historic rise of the dependency class and the amount of tax-free benefits they receive.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Sep 30, 2015 1:56pm
Indeed like the highly productive and wealthy Jews and Asians who will overwhelmingly vote Dem. I am not sure if you are in the Anger or the Bargaining stage(s) of grief with this here rationalization.QuakerOats;1754156 wrote:She can easily win given the number of takers vs producers plus the composition of the electoral map. In fact, it is nearly impossible for a Republican to win given the historic rise of the dependency class and the amount of tax-free benefits they receive.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 30, 2015 7:20pm
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 1, 2015 7:55am
Ugh. If you are right, and I suspect you are, that is sad commentary. I will admit I don't have a clue on why Democrats think they way they do, and what goes thru their mind. I'm not even sure I understand Republicans, if Donald Trump is truly in the lead. I'm an older guy, and grew up when the media could be trusted to give it to you pretty straight up, but now it doesn't seem that you can get it anywhere. Where does that leave us as a Democracy? ....While I as an 'R" think Biden would be a stronger candidate based on my reading of slanted sources, it doesn't make a difference in the primary since I'm not voting in that anyway. In the general elections, the "D"s could run Mr Ed, with a history of stealing carrots and taking extra hay at other horses expense, and still pull 45% of the vote.BoatShoes;1754152 wrote:Sigh. Classic mistake. People really need to stop paying attention to the media - in particular the right wing media - which made every conservative believe there was a real horse race and that Obama was likely to lose to Romney. Hillary is not in danger except in the minds of people who already hate her or hate dems. Whether you think she is a scumbag or not that is reality.
Prediction Markets still give her a 68% chance of winning the Democratic nod versus 18% for Biden and the Dems a 60% chance of winning. They give her specifically a 43% chance of winning; Jeb a 13% chance; Biden a 13% chance and Rubio a 10% chance.
If anything the markets think she has gained ground as Jeb has plummeted.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 1, 2015 8:23am
gosh a ruddies. a little truth from Kevin McCarthy in the cynical Republican efforts to prevent the election of Hillary Clinton, soon to be our first female President. All these investigations have been done not to find the truth but to bring down her polling numbers.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 1, 2015 8:43am
You realize the Repubs don't control the DOJ and can't initiate an FBI investigation?isadore;1754271 wrote:gosh a ruddies. a little truth from Kevin McCarthy in the cynical Republican efforts to prevent the election of Hillary Clinton, soon to be our first female President. All these investigations have been done not to find the truth but to bring down her polling numbers.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 1, 2015 8:54am
But they can force it, with a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing but opportunism on their part
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 1, 2015 10:08am
isadore;1754280 wrote:But they can force it, with a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing but opportunism on their part
Hardly, the left-wing media runs interference for her just as they did for her rapist business partner, I mean husband.
And if that is not enough, the career liberals at DOJ would never go after one of their own.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 1, 2015 10:14am
BoatShoes;1754160 wrote:Indeed like the highly productive and wealthy Jews and Asians who will overwhelmingly vote Dem. I am not sure if you are in the Anger or the Bargaining stage(s) of grief with this here rationalization.
I understand the reality of welfare, ignorance, voter fraud, math, and the point of no return.
Your team created this Orwellian train wreck; own it.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 1, 2015 12:36pm
gosh a ruddies I just saw that Jesse Jackson Junior finished his jail sentence, after the FBI and the DOJ put him there. But they are givng Republican Speaker and Kiddie raper Denny Hastert a deal.QuakerOats;1754311 wrote:Hardly, the left-wing media runs interference for her just as they did for her rapist business partner, I mean husband.
And if that is not enough, the career liberals at DOJ would never go after one of their own.
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You know the Denny Hastert who handled the House Representative investigation of fellow Republican kiddie raper Mark Foley
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 1, 2015 1:10pm
She is your candidate - a serial liar, a money launderer, and a horrific record --- OWN HER.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 1, 2015 1:32pm
When I posted Mr. Ed in the ealier post, I was alluding to the guy the dems ran against John Kasich... Talk about being caught red handed breaking the law on purpose and full disregard... and he still polled 38%. Mrs. Ed would do even better nationally.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 1, 2015 1:33pm
gosh a ruddies personally I would prefer Joe or maybe even Bernie but given the list of clowns, screw ups,corporate shills, bigots and practicing misogynists the Republicans are offering, she is appreciably better than any of them..
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 1, 2015 2:21pm
Liberals would be absolutely beside themselves if America elects its first women POTUS....and it's Carly Fiorina!
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 1, 2015 3:54pm
Exactly, with the Hispanic Rubio as her VP ............ the Left would go into seizures.gut;1754396 wrote:Liberals would be absolutely beside themselves if America elects its first women POTUS....and it's Carly Fiorina!
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 1, 2015 5:16pm
gosh a ruddies Republican are always whining to let a business person run our government. You would think they would at least get a successful one.gut;1754396 wrote:Liberals would be absolutely beside themselves if America elects its first women POTUS....and it's Carly Fiorina!
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 1, 2015 5:50pm
QuakerOats;1754416 wrote:Exactly, with the Hispanic Rubio as her VP ............ the Left would go into seizures.
I want Rubio at the top of the ticket.....you could put Ben or Carly in the two hole. Kasich would be better, but heaven forbid we put some in that actually knows what they doing....because being president should be all about effecting social appearance.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 13, 2015 1:18pm
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/reminder-tonights-democratic-debate-moderator-was-member-clinton-global-initiative_1045052.html
Liberal debate moderator is Clinton global initiative supporter.
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Liberal debate moderator is Clinton global initiative supporter.
Wonderful
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Oct 14, 2015 9:40am
Whether you like Anderson Cooper or not, that debate last night was 1000% more substantive than either of the republican efforts. The one in Cleveland was a joke.QuakerOats;1756825 wrote:http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/reminder-tonights-democratic-debate-moderator-was-member-clinton-global-initiative_1045052.html
Liberal debate moderator is Clinton global initiative supporter.
Wonderful
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Oct 14, 2015 11:14am
That's pretty much CNNs goal. Let the Democrats talk issues, try to get the Republicans to attack each other.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1756964 wrote:Whether you like Anderson Cooper or not, that debate last night was 1000% more substantive than either of the republican efforts. The one in Cleveland was a joke.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 14, 2015 11:16am
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1756964 wrote:Whether you like Anderson Cooper or not, that debate last night was 1000% more substantive than either of the republican efforts. The one in Cleveland was a joke.
Noticed this as well.superman;1756991 wrote:That's pretty much CNNs goal. Let the Democrats talk issues, try to get the Republicans to attack each other.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 14, 2015 12:42pm
I could have told you that was the goal before the debate even started.sleeper;1756992 wrote:Noticed this as well.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Oct 14, 2015 4:20pm
The Republican debate I was thinking of was shown on Fox - CNN had nothing to do with it. The hosts of the Fox debate spoke as much as the candidates and the debate itself was poor. At least issues were discussed last night.superman;1756991 wrote:That's pretty much CNNs goal. Let the Democrats talk issues, try to get the Republicans to attack each other.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 14, 2015 4:29pm
CNN held a debate at the Reagan Library about a month ago. It was 11 people and almost all of the questions were designed for each candidate to attack each other.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1757034 wrote:The Republican debate I was thinking of was shown on Fox - CNN had nothing to do with it. The hosts of the Fox debate spoke as much as the candidates and the debate itself was poor. At least issues were discussed last night.