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QuakerOats

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Jan 21, 2016 1:45 PM
She didn't protect American lives in Benghazi.

She didn't protect American top-secret intelligence.

She lied about both.

She should be jailed.



Some of Hillary Clinton’s emails on her private server containedinformation so secret that senior lawmakers who oversee the State Departmentcannot read them without fulfilling additional security requirements, Fox Newshas learned.

The emails in question, as Fox News first reported earlier this week, containedintelligence classified at a level beyond “top secret.” Because of thisdesignation, not all the lawmakers on key committees reviewing the case havehigh enough clearances.



A source with knowledge of the intelligence review told Fox News that senior members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, despite having high-level clearances, are among those not authorized to read the intelligence from so-called “special access programs” without taking additional security steps -- like signing new non-disclosure agreements.

These programs are highly restricted to protect intelligencecommunity sources and methods.

As Fox News previously reported, a Jan. 14 letter fromIntelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III to seniorlawmakers said an intelligence review identified "several dozen"additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence from"special access programs" (SAP).

That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,”the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings evenmore scrutiny to the Democratic presidential candidate’s handling of thegovernment’s closely held secrets.


Fox News is told that the reviewers who handled the
SAP intelligenceidentified in Clinton’s emails had to sign additional non-disclosure agreementseven though they already have the highest level of clearance -- known as TS/SCI or TopSecret/Sensitive Compartmented information. This detail was first reported byNBC News.

This alone seems to undercut the former secretary of state’s andother officials’ claims that the material is "innocuous."


In an interview with NPR,
Clinton claimed thelatest IG finding doesn’t change anything and suggested it was politically motivated. “This seems to me to be, you know, another effort to inject thisinto the campaign, it's another leak,” she said. “I'm just going to leave it upto the professionals at the Justice Department because nothing that this says changes the fact that I never sent or received material marked classified.”
Despite Clinton's claims, it is the content that is classified; the markings on the documents do not affect that.

A former Justice Department official said there is another problem -- warnings from State Department IT employees and others that she should be using a government account.


“If you have a situation where someone was knowingly violating the law and that they knew that what they were doing was prohibited by federal law because other people were saying, you're violating the law, knock it off,and they disregarded that advice and they went ahead, that's a very difficult case to defend,” Thomas Dupree said.


Catherine Herridge is an award-winning Chief Intelligence correspondentfor
FOX News Channel (FNC) based in Washington, D.C. She covers intelligence, the Justice Departmentand the Department of Homeland Security. Herridge joined FNC in 1996 as a London-based correspondent
Jan 21, 2016 1:45pm
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Jan 21, 2016 8:54 PM
Race is tightening up with a recent big surge from the Bern. Even the ultra-right wing (uber sarcasm) Time Magazine is printing articles how women are beginning to fall out of the Clinton camp...
"Why This Democrat Won't Vote for Hillary Clinton" : http://time.com/4177436/hillary-clinton-juanita-broaddrick/
Jan 21, 2016 8:54pm
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Jan 21, 2016 9:04 PM
I wouldn't let Bernie Sanders watch my dog and i am going to vote for him in the primary.
Jan 21, 2016 9:04pm
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Jan 21, 2016 9:17 PM
QuakerOats;1777312 wrote:She didn't protect American lives in Benghazi.

She didn't protect American top-secret intelligence.

She lied about both.

She should be jailed.



Some of Hillary Clinton’s emails on her private server containedinformation so secret that senior lawmakers who oversee the State Departmentcannot read them without fulfilling additional security requirements, Fox Newshas learned.

The emails in question, as Fox News first reported earlier this week, containedintelligence classified at a level beyond “top secret.” Because of thisdesignation, not all the lawmakers on key committees reviewing the case havehigh enough clearances.



A source with knowledge of the intelligence review told Fox News that senior members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, despite having high-level clearances, are among those not authorized to read the intelligence from so-called “special access programs” without taking additional security steps -- like signing new non-disclosure agreements.

These programs are highly restricted to protect intelligencecommunity sources and methods.

As Fox News previously reported, a Jan. 14 letter fromIntelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III to seniorlawmakers said an intelligence review identified "several dozen"additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence from"special access programs" (SAP).

That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,”the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings evenmore scrutiny to the Democratic presidential candidate’s handling of thegovernment’s closely held secrets.


Fox News is told that the reviewers who handled the
SAP intelligenceidentified in Clinton’s emails had to sign additional non-disclosure agreementseven though they already have the highest level of clearance -- known as TS/SCI or TopSecret/Sensitive Compartmented information. This detail was first reported byNBC News.

This alone seems to undercut the former secretary of state’s andother officials’ claims that the material is "innocuous."


In an interview with NPR,
Clinton claimed thelatest IG finding doesn’t change anything and suggested it was politically motivated. “This seems to me to be, you know, another effort to inject thisinto the campaign, it's another leak,” she said. “I'm just going to leave it upto the professionals at the Justice Department because nothing that this says changes the fact that I never sent or received material marked classified.”
Despite Clinton's claims, it is the content that is classified; the markings on the documents do not affect that.

A former Justice Department official said there is another problem -- warnings from State Department IT employees and others that she should be using a government account.


“If you have a situation where someone was knowingly violating the law and that they knew that what they were doing was prohibited by federal law because other people were saying, you're violating the law, knock it off,and they disregarded that advice and they went ahead, that's a very difficult case to defend,” Thomas Dupree said.


Catherine Herridge is an award-winning Chief Intelligence correspondentfor
FOX News Channel (FNC) based in Washington, D.C. She covers intelligence, the Justice Departmentand the Department of Homeland Security. Herridge joined FNC in 1996 as a London-based correspondent
What type of alternate universe are we living in when the person being investigated says that there is no classified information in her emails, yet before investigators can even look at some of the emails, they must get top secret security clearance to read classified information before being permitted to read the emails.

If HRC is not in trouble I do not know what it means to be in trouble. Then again, I don't know what it is like to have a bank vault behind me like what HRC has with the Clinton Foundation coffers.
Jan 21, 2016 9:17pm
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Jan 22, 2016 8:28 AM
Apple;1777409 wrote:What type of alternate universe are we living in when the person being investigated says that there is no classified information in her emails, yet before investigators can even look at some of the emails, they must get top secret security clearance to read classified information before being permitted to read the emails.

If HRC is not in trouble I do not know what it means to be in trouble. Then again, I don't know what it is like to have a bank vault behind me like what HRC has with the Clinton Foundation coffers.
The Clintons have always been made of teflon.....
Jan 22, 2016 8:28am
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Jan 22, 2016 10:34 AM
She makes Richard Nixon look like a saint.
Jan 22, 2016 10:34am
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Jan 22, 2016 10:50 AM
QuakerOats;1777492 wrote:She makes Richard Nixon look like a saint.
It's very ironic that she was involved with the Watergate hearings. The tables have completely turned.
Jan 22, 2016 10:50am
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Jan 22, 2016 12:03 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1777503 wrote:It's very ironic that she was involved with the Watergate hearings. The tables have completely turned.
She got kicked off the Nixon prosecution team for being dishonest!
Jan 22, 2016 12:03pm
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Jan 22, 2016 12:10 PM
Apple;1777521 wrote:She got kicked off the Nixon prosecution team for being dishonest!
I think that is an urban legend. However the iron still stands.
Jan 22, 2016 12:10pm
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Jan 22, 2016 12:21 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1777523 wrote:I think that is an urban legend. However the iron still stands.
She wasn't fired or kicked off the investigation. She is rumored to have committed done ethical misdeeds. As with everything else Clinton related, noting seems to have stuck.
Jan 22, 2016 12:21pm
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Jan 22, 2016 12:25 PM
QuakerOats;1777311 wrote:You don't like the news so disparage the messenger. Typical Clinton tactic.
True. As opposed to the mature and reserved reactions OC Conservatives have when people bring up links from the HuffPo or other left-leaning sites. Oh, wait, when that happens, "disparage the messenger" is the order of the day.

Lulz for the comedy.
Jan 22, 2016 12:25pm
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Jan 22, 2016 2:35 PM
Heretic;1777527 wrote:True. As opposed to the mature and reserved reactions OC Conservatives have when people bring up links from the HuffPo or other left-leaning sites. Oh, wait, when that happens, "disparage the messenger" is the order of the day.

Lulz for the comedy.
There is a huge difference between America's most trusted news source and an Internet blog site dedicated to the liberal cause.
Jan 22, 2016 2:35pm
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Jan 22, 2016 2:49 PM
Apple;1777521 wrote:She got kicked off the Nixon prosecution team for being dishonest!
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1777523 wrote:I think that is an urban legend. However the iron still stands.
superman;1777525 wrote:She wasn't fired or kicked off the investigation. She is rumored to have committed done ethical misdeeds. As with everything else Clinton related, noting seems to have stuck.
This provides some insight. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp
Jan 22, 2016 2:49pm
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Jan 25, 2016 5:41 PM
Bloomberg smells blood in the water.
Jan 25, 2016 5:41pm
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Jan 25, 2016 10:20 PM
majorspark;1778126 wrote:Bloomberg smells blood in the water.
lets look at this from another angle.......Bloomberg is basically going to hand the POTUS to Trump.

I think that he might be in bed with Trump and is sabotaging the Dems in some shady backdoor deal with Trump.
Jan 25, 2016 10:20pm
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Jan 25, 2016 10:24 PM
Spock;1778150 wrote:lets look at this from another angle.......Bloomberg is basically going to hand the POTUS to Trump.

I think that he might be in bed with Trump and is sabotaging the Dems in some shady backdoor deal with Trump.
I feel like trump is in bed with Clinton and sabotaging the Republicans
Jan 25, 2016 10:24pm
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Jan 25, 2016 10:44 PM
FatHobbit;1778152 wrote:I feel like trump is in bed with Clinton and sabotaging the Republicans
This
Jan 25, 2016 10:44pm
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Jan 25, 2016 11:04 PM
You guys sound like Bernie Sanders. Billionaires and millionaires colluding to manipulate the political process.
Jan 25, 2016 11:04pm
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Jan 25, 2016 11:18 PM
majorspark;1778161 wrote:You guys sound like Bernie Sanders. Billionaires and millionaires colluding to manipulate the political process.
Lol I don't think Bloomberg is colluding, but Trump is such an abrasive douche I can't believe he is serious
Jan 25, 2016 11:18pm
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Jan 26, 2016 1:09 AM
FatHobbit;1778163 wrote:Lol I don't think Bloomberg is colluding, but Trump is such an abrasive douche I can't believe he is serious
But you state Trump is.
FatHobbit;1778152 wrote:I feel like trump is in bed with Clinton and sabotaging the Republicans
That is the definition of collusion.
Spock;1778150 wrote:lets look at this from another angle.......Bloomberg is basically going to hand the POTUS to Trump.

I think that he might be in bed with Trump and is sabotaging the Dems in some shady backdoor deal with Trump.
Again insinuating collusion to manipulate the political process. I stand by my post.

I will not vote for Trump in the primary. When I have my choices in the general I will make one.

As for Hillary another coughing spell and some may wonder if she is choking on something other than her own lies. By her own admission when fatigued she is prone to "misspeak". That is political speak for lie. A presidential campaign as well as holding the office of the POTUS will many times leave one sleep deprived. Someone needs to ask her if she has overcome this weakness.
Jan 26, 2016 1:09am
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Jan 26, 2016 1:48 AM
majorspark;1778167 wrote:But you state Trump is.



That is the definition of collusion.



Again insinuating collusion to manipulate the political process. I stand by my post.

I will not vote for Trump in the primary. When I have my choices in the general I will make one.

As for Hillary another coughing spell and some may wonder if she is choking on something other than her own lies. By her own admission when fatigued she is prone to "misspeak". That is political speak for lie. A presidential campaign as well as holding the office of the POTUS will many times leave one sleep deprived. Someone needs to ask her if she has overcome this weakness.
I didn't mean that Trump IS really doing it, only that he is such an a hole it feels like he is trying to give Hillary the election.
Jan 26, 2016 1:48am
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Jan 26, 2016 5:05 AM
majorspark;1778161 wrote:You guys sound like Bernie Sanders. Billionaires and millionaires colluding to manipulate the political process.
There's got to be a Rothschild in that mix, somewhere!
Jan 26, 2016 5:05am
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Jan 26, 2016 7:06 AM
Belly as of now will support Trump. Hope this helps

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Jan 26, 2016 7:06am
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